XGS Terminates Sponsorships

Posted by deebo at 10:54 25/3/2003.

xtragaming have released a public statement on their website (also in a UKT column) concerning some of it's 'current' sponsorship deals. As of 28th April, XGS will no longer support individual clans for the following:

- server hosting
- Teamspeak hosting
- bncs
- extension of current domains, or new domains
- securing contracts from other sponsors

Firstly the lack of progress made by the clans who have received even our highest amount of support has been frankly disappointing. Not just in terms of play, where most have excelled, but our efforts to improve their community spirit, their willingness to be involved in community projects has been lacklustre. Some clans [such as lastchance, uk.bham, trippy and ketamine, as well as hullu the adminmod coder] have shown otherwise and as their friends, we will continue to support them in their current deals.

Those clans thinking that we are obligated to supply them with continuing support – you are wrong as the 3 month word of mouth contract expires on the 28th. I see no reason to support a whole gaggle of self centred and opinionated 'pro gamers'. I know that this will be flamed, and that you will not take any notice of your loss of opportunity but the vast majority of you will whine, whinge and refuse to take the initiative once more.

However the statement went on to say they would continue the following services:

web hosting with full mysql and php
- server support and advice
- specific sponsorship of events upon request and deliberation
- #xgs.gather channel
- #xgs.ringers channel

XGS were later keen to stress XGS will always support clans and the CS community:

Xtra Gaming Sports will continue to always support clans, through its newest aim to build a series of counter-strike squads which we hope will provide help for emerging players; and through providing the community with services such as our new gather channel and ringer channel.

At present there are 24 teams and 3 players who currently have sponsorship deals with XGS, so quite a few teams stand to lose quite a lot.

Comments

Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
10:58 25/3/2003
any know who the teams was? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
10:58 25/3/2003
any 1* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
10:59 25/3/2003
heddy u idiot speak sense! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
11:00 25/3/2003
They've kept the teams that support XGS in return, so don't see how it'd be unfair to the clans who are dropped. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:03 25/3/2003
yeh seems fairly fair. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Havors
11:06 25/3/2003
still too many whinging kids playing the game :/

sponsors should be weary of who they hand out deals too. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
11:07 25/3/2003
i.e. not all and sundry ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
11:10 25/3/2003
I see no reason to support a whole gaggle of self centred and opinionated 'pro gamers'.

This guy has SO be reading UKT [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:14 25/3/2003
Surely it was Anisty who wrote this?...so i can only assume he does read ukt :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
11:14 25/3/2003
i practically live on ukt :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:17 25/3/2003
maybe u should spend more time on xgs then? ;p [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
11:18 25/3/2003
in that case - it should be self-centred*
:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
11:18 25/3/2003
cruel cruel myers [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:22 25/3/2003
dog eat dog world...woof! ;p [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Midas^
11:23 25/3/2003
:s

ul clans losing there support [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
11:24 25/3/2003
Cheers for the interview the other night Myers btw :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:27 25/3/2003
? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MagiciaN^
Jay Bee Eye!
11:30 25/3/2003
just goes to show... you shoulda given me my 50k a year... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
11:45 25/3/2003
I pm'ed you on irc. NM i got Luck1ng instead [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
11:48 25/3/2003
whats XGS and WHO is your daddy? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
callous
Specster
11:51 25/3/2003
what were they expecting ? 24 SK's and 3 HeatoN's ? u gotta give these things time man [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Otis
Rush!
12:00 25/3/2003
haha to all the "pro-gaymers". ul. You'll have to actually spend £5 a year on your bouncer now ... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
12:20 25/3/2003
HeMAN...masters of the universe! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
13:28 25/3/2003
Way to kill the comments :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
amarc
14:25 25/3/2003
Seems fair [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rumpaton
The Bomb Squad
14:46 25/3/2003
shut up deebo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
14:52 25/3/2003
yes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Opr3ss0r
15:01 25/3/2003
Lol Anisty get ur ass off ukt and work more on XGS! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stono
15:03 25/3/2003
I see no reason to support a whole gaggle of self centred and opinionated 'pro gamers'

i love it anisty. i couldnt agree with you any more after working on csgn.

Good luck in the future xgs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N38
15:27 25/3/2003
LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
snarc
15:41 25/3/2003
Too true, if theyre not prepared to help themsleves by putting a little effort into admin now and again they dont deserve anything.

gl anisty :> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TJ`
15:53 25/3/2003
The clans uve stated have shown progress, how bout saying what that progress is. lc's is obvious but the others have done what?

and xion, whats the current start date on csgn? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aZr
ForsakeN
16:16 25/3/2003
In my opinion, XGS is a joke. They think that every clan will become great if they dish out web hosting n s***. They dont know what the community wants and neither does the community. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JaK
16:24 25/3/2003
...hell yeah to that, I still wanna know what qualifies as good work for the community? Does every clan have to arrange a budget tournament? I thought not being bad losers or arguing all the time would be a start but I guess that means s*** all... pld(!) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
16:41 25/3/2003
I think that being given a helping hand by a company such as XGS is good and of course they want to see progress in return.

I don't know exactly how they deemed the clans "unworthy" of the sponsorship, so its not fair to comment on it. I doubt they just cut the clans off completely. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
16:41 25/3/2003
*cut the clans off without consulting them first.

:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JaK
16:42 25/3/2003
Well, first I heard was on this site... I'd say thats a fairly immediate and blunt cut [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
16:47 25/3/2003
Anisty our Teamspeak server ever gonna materialise? and wots happened to the XGS cup, just been stopped half way thru cos i cant see any development of it in ur irc or on the site? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
16:49 25/3/2003
and which are the clans who have been dropped? have we? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
16:49 25/3/2003
I will not take this abuse Rumpaton: take it elsewhere you english b******. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
16:50 25/3/2003
atemi, stop asking me the same old boring questions mate. I have told you and forsaken the answers to this countless times. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hyperion
16:53 25/3/2003
and they are....... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
16:55 25/3/2003
Hardly cut off immediatley there is still over a month [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
17:18 25/3/2003
dont blame u phil...gl in future [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
OLv
17:31 25/3/2003
rofl ul [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aZr
ForsakeN
17:36 25/3/2003
Anisty you are always dodging questions. Some straight answers would be nice one and a while [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
17:46 25/3/2003
once in a while [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
17:46 25/3/2003
haha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TJ`
17:53 25/3/2003
watch out everyone, anisty is correcting spelling. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SyMpOsIuM
eNvy!
17:53 25/3/2003
who ate all the pies? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
17:58 25/3/2003
tj couldnt be bitter because he lost his xgs server could he now!? omg! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TJ`
18:17 25/3/2003
lol, i knew u wud say that as some sort of reply. We've already got a replacement and another on the way, so the loss was great.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aZr
ForsakeN
18:27 25/3/2003
Dodging the question again Anisty?

Ure full of s***, just like team xgsports, contracts and everything! with u in the team...leet

no doubt u will find something wrong in my comment so feel free to do dodge the question again :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Opr3ss0r
18:33 25/3/2003
I love the uk flame!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-aG.MuffinMan-
19:05 25/3/2003
Anisty I am confused as to why ti actually lost their server. You once said to me we were making a lack of progress, but what did you expect us to be doing. As someone said earlier webhosting and a server doesn't make a clan. However at the time Ti was doing well in BWCSL league and had recently won csvs.

Anyway good to see that LC are still being supported but what have the other clans done? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
19:14 25/3/2003
can i have a server? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Triz
19:34 25/3/2003
lol from my point of view some teams paid to enter this tournie, the servers were w**k, both admins i had couldnt set them up, not thats their fault im quite sure.
whats the point in playing without fcc on when we use ts programs so we leave the server and arguments occur.
no word on anything at all really :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Wolfie
WanadooWolfie
20:58 25/3/2003
well, if there is one thing posting on UKT has accheived, it is a half decent flame, although, there hasnt been a good 3 page long flaming contest for a while, i put myers to the test to find a contrevesal subject to post about:D
gl XGS + anisty + whoever else is in it:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
21:02 25/3/2003
Wolfie, you seen the womens nc captain post? Obivously not! :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
21:07 25/3/2003
I saw this whole thing coming.

They f***ed up our prize in some tourny that they had. IT WAS ALL CLEAR THEREFORTH [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aZr
ForsakeN
21:22 25/3/2003
Necroboy - A prophet send down to us by the gods :D

Agreed, the tourneys are w**k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
21:23 25/3/2003
then dont play. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
21:26 25/3/2003
atemi, stop asking me the same old boring questions mate. I have told you and forsaken the answers to this countless times.

no u aint or else we wouldnt ask, we keep asking cos ur either afk 99% of the time or just ignore us, ive asked many times wot is happening with the tourny and i aint recivied an answer once!. It took wot, 3 months for our domain to arrive, i asked you about the teamspeak server about a month ago and u said it was down or summit to make it more stable and would be back up next week, but so far i aint been told anything about if it is or isnt and wots the point in asking if all u do is ignore questions. I appreciate wot your trying to do but u gotta expect the odd unhappy customer when u promise something and dont follow it through, gl tho with wot ur trying to do [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
21:29 25/3/2003
also one more thing, Triz mentioned the inadequete admins, i wasnt impressed recently by a certain Head XGS admin accusing my clan of cheating/configging and mercing, and then the solution to our protests was to call us every name under the sun and bann us from their clans irc channel, also note it was a pcw we were accused of the above in which made it even more ridiculous :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
doMiNion
21:44 25/3/2003
Anisty basically ur plan has gone pete tong, u wanted to be the hero by making the uk cs scene l33t with xgs.But things were harder than u thought they would be and you couldnt be bothered to stick it out as u planned! What did u want back in return by sponsoring clans that u urself had no idea where they were going or what they intended to do in the long run.A team isnt gonna get better by having free web hosting and all that poo.UK clans need to LAN!!!
Basically leave it to the pro's and stick 2 your 56k on uk2 servers :D
All the best [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
doMiNion
21:46 25/3/2003
P.S, looks like ur team uk bid has gone down the toilet now u have become a joke to the cs community in alot of peoples eyes shame really i thought more of u and xgs
e-sports pro have shown u up [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
aZr
ForsakeN
21:49 25/3/2003
Anisty, i dont see my clan PORK signed up for your budget tourney [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Az
RemOte.uK
21:52 25/3/2003
to be fair, the sponser ship we recived at the time seemed good but the server was like a yoyo and the bncs never came along with webhosting nm tho Ti lost there sponsership and lost a few members that have been replaced, progress.... mmmmm they just won bwcsl div 2? an csvs so well done to em on that as for there attitude im unsure if it has changed as i dont really talk to them as much as when i was a memeber ul to all the clans who lost there s*** etc etc lalaal [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
22:26 25/3/2003
'I see no reason to support a whole gaggle of self centred and opinionated 'pro gamers'. I know that this will be flamed, and that you will not take any notice of your loss of opportunity but the vast majority of you will whine, whinge and refuse to take the initiative once more.'

It also strikes me that everyone who has an opinion that matters to me, has stuck by me. Forsaken, how about this, I DONT HAVE TO SPEND MY f***ING CASH ON YOU, GET SOME f***ING GRATITUDE. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Triz
22:32 25/3/2003
-Flame Club-

First rule of flame club: dont talk about flame club

anisty did put effort into the company, but nowdays sponsorship is either for half decent clans such as lc- or just a bunch of kids wanting to look good to mates. the servers and admins provided for the tourny were inadequete and just caused arguments where there shudnt of bin. i cba to type more.bye [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
22:34 25/3/2003
how about this, I DONT HAVE TO SPEND MY f***ING CASH ON YOU, GET SOME f***ING GRATITUDE

says it all. no u dont have to spend ya cash on us but aint that the purpose of XGS? as i said b4 if u promise things and dont deliver expect the backlash [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
22:38 25/3/2003
Its all a bit jewish if you ask me [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Anisty
22:39 25/3/2003
'P.S, looks like ur team uk bid has gone down the toilet now u have become a joke to the cs community in alot of peoples eyes shame really i thought more of u and xgs
e-sports pro have shown u up'

I never made a serious team-uk bid, it was well known to both ripper and obi, that rav0r and i supported them in their attempt and never actually wanted to win.

Esport-pro are a great organisation, but as paul has pointed out to me, ppl like you will flame anything that happens to be going at the time. In fact far from being a joke, most people who made serious and thought out comments supported us in our decision and can see exactly where we are coming from.

Yet again i point out to you that i never wanted anything from this, and i spend my personal cash to help clans out. I could put it into selling servers or making myself money some other way. Support offered by xgsports was never a right, no matter what Forsaken or Team Incarnate may think.

Forsaken seem very happy with their domain.. recently purchased for them out of the budget quarter.

Teamspeak updates continue, ventrilo is also now working and we continue to provide for the community.

I have now spent a total amount on xgsports clans, which comes to over £1200 of cash I earnt myself.

I'm not going to comment anymore, im ashamed of you people who flame, never have anything constructive to say, and never think your critiscisms through. The community is going under par in many areas, and i can safely say that i have done my part to try and rectify it, you can expect me to be more withdrawn and business minded in future with the community.

Thanks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Atemi
ForsakeN
22:42 25/3/2003
as i said b4 i appreciate wot ur trying to do, but uve not met the deadlines u set for things such as domains, teamspeak and if u dont meet em ppl will question why [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
doMiNion
22:46 25/3/2003
Everyone is entitled to an opinion Anisty, its whether u choose to voice it or not. ForsakeN and TI have voiced there opinions. I have seen you have an moan at ppl asking innocent questions, then accuse them of making the UK scene crap. You are two faced imo. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
22:55 25/3/2003
lol £1200 you stupid!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Triz
22:57 25/3/2003
i think this game is taken too seriously, people at valve are prolly well pleased the money it is making them...there luxury rooms in far gone islands. just like richard branson. anythway ... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TJ`
23:09 25/3/2003
To me you seem like a clueless newbie with more cash than sense. You spend most of ur time afk doing things im sure are very important and ignoring the majority of pms u recieve (ive talked to others about this).

You say you want to help the community by providing. Thats great, but when u don't provide what does a clan do...wait..yes, they could do that, several months in fact. But then again that wait is entirely free for them and provided by you and that server, loved how it crashed on map changes.

As to dropping Ti because of 'no progress', well i asked what we were meant to have done and didnt get a reply, as always, I don't know what u think progress is. If its taking part/winning major events then none have happened since you took us on besides i15 which can hardly count, so answer some time about 'progress', cos all those clans you drop will be pming u about it anyway.

And sorry if this comment doesnt make much sense but im annoyed and just wrote what came to mind...and btw its THE incarnate for the 10th f***ing time. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-aG.MuffinMan-
23:13 25/3/2003
Anisty, you missed the point. When I was in ti we were very grateful for the server. You took the server away from us, your server so you can do what you want with it. However your reason was we "weren't doing anything". Well just this evening Ti won BWCSL, I am not quite sure what you wanted them to do. You obviously put your own money in and have the right to give servers to whoever you wish. However I suggest you delegate some of your powers to other people so they can help the clans that you are trying to help, so matters can be sorted while you are not there. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
23:17 25/3/2003
XGS is FREE you cant complain for a FREE service, it might be aggravating that not all deadlines/whatever were lived up to but it helps if you co-operate. You cant expect to type in your name as a clan to be sponsered then expect them to come to your doorstep. Just to reiterate the point, XGS is FREE.

On the other hand the tournament is not but its 5 pounds, 1 pound a clan member max if you share the cost. The tournament is dissapointingly processing a bit slowly and we've had our problems, however people signed up with the knowledge that this might happen. Few tournaments run without a hitch, and this one has been delayed. Im sure if you've paid for the tournament and stuck by the rules (without being eliminated) you will still have a shot at the prizes.

Leave Anisty alone, it is FREE... Stop trying to compare XGS to a steadfast independent company. XGS is not intel, its run by a guy / several people who are spending their own time and money to benefit the community. If you've lost sponsership, move on.. why do you think you deserve it? Im not saying last chance do at all but there is no obligation to support x number of clans. Shh..

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