Valve To Charge For Steam/CS 1.6

Posted by Myers at 10:24 3/10/2003.

Recently it has emerged from reliable sources within Valve that the new Steam service, the content-service platform which carries Counter-Strike 1.6, will charge all customers wishing to use the service from Spring next year possibly even earlier once several bugs have been ironed out. This news is likely to anger the Counter-Strike gaming community as everyone has already purchased a copy of Half-Life or even Counter-Strike itself. How this affects future Counter-Strike or any Half-Life multiplayer competitions remains to be seen, but it cannot be good.

Remember once ID began to charge gaming events for Quake 3 the game was dropped by both the CPL and WCG and the community faded away. With the CPL adopting Halo for the PC next year and rumours that WCG will be using MOHAA to replace CS, could this be the final nail in the coffin for CS?

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Ripper
Rush!
10:27 3/10/2003
what a pile of f***ing s*** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Genics
thed0n
10:28 3/10/2003
cs @ dead [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
10:28 3/10/2003
Actually Myers that firt sentence doesn't make sense. It doesn't say what it's forcing them to use :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
10:28 3/10/2003
u just edited u tard [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Phunky
10:29 3/10/2003
Well Valve has really shot them self in the foot, if they think id pay a monthly fee after buy 2 Copys of HL and one CS retail in the past 5years im not happy [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AdY
10:30 3/10/2003
good news [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
10:31 3/10/2003
Hello adam from last chance [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
10:31 3/10/2003
actually yes good point, great news [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Huckan
Boys From The Dwarf
10:31 3/10/2003
shame valve are gonna knock down two guys hard work [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
grimbob
stimulant
10:35 3/10/2003
wp! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Zorro-
Clan [F]
10:36 3/10/2003
this must be a joke...
i thought they stated some weeks ago that they will never charge anyone.
Official Valve url to this dear newsposter ? or is it just a rumour [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:37 3/10/2003
Valve never said they wouldn't charge anyone forever. Infact if you look at the Steam software there is an area to input the credit card details.

Check the wording very carefully they have left it very open:

Yes, Steam is really free.

Steam also provides access to several free products and services, like the dedicated game server, instant messaging, the game server browser, etc.

And if you've already bought Half-Life or one of the other Half-Life family of games, several add-ons are available via Steam for no extra cost.

After installing Steam, check your "Games" list to see what's available.
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Zorro-
Clan [F]
10:38 3/10/2003
This is my link proving you wrong:
http://www.steampowered.com (FAQ page->Is Steam Really free? Yes) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Swifty`
Intrigue
10:38 3/10/2003
bye bye cs weee [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Swifty`
Intrigue
10:39 3/10/2003
doenst mean it will be in the future [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
10:41 3/10/2003
bye cs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
10:43 3/10/2003
Hmm, as I predicted, move to halo was the right choice :)

#unicon ask for me if u fancy yourself as a halo player :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
10:44 3/10/2003
Not even seen a screenshot, or anything of Halo. Might give it a try if Steam charge for some more steaming s***. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:46 3/10/2003
check the wording of that carefully zorro, it doesn't say it'll be free forever and it's open to interpretation! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
10:47 3/10/2003
is halo downloadable loxam! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kiy
team.Letters
10:47 3/10/2003
as the wolves fans would say

"Steam, Y0wve Let uz Daaan agin" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
10:50 3/10/2003
pm me HSM! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N3M-
endeffect
10:51 3/10/2003
i say we blanket them with hate mail [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
10:54 3/10/2003
ok LXM [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Andeh
10:54 3/10/2003
Just rumour, Valve have worked hard on steam and the SKUs and if you think Steam was evolved for Counter-Strike soley, then your a tit. It was made with all their future releases in mind. People wont pay to play, but they will be able to if they want. $9.95 a month for all the latest games and content direct via download. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Andeh
10:55 3/10/2003
Much of what i said is taken directly from Gabe Newell's comments posted on this site just last month. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
10:55 3/10/2003
lol, shaw told me few weeks ago they was gonna charge....i aint fk'in payin to play a game lol

gg valve way 2 kill ur best game [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
10:59 3/10/2003
Good plan N3M. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
BLiND
BLACKLiGHT
10:59 3/10/2003
I have to admit, I don't like the sound of paying to play a game.... you buy a game, and you play it thats it.

I would not play cs if it was p-2-p... I would play something else... afterall there are plenty of free alternatives.

Until they start charging, I will still play it though. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dravicus
10:59 3/10/2003
I heard that gooseman and cliffe signed a contract with valve before handing CS over to them saying that there must always be a free mod version of the current version of CS available to the community, or something along those lines, is that not true? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ghost
ctx
11:00 3/10/2003
Myers, the credit card section is there because you can buy future valve games over steam without having to go down the shops.

Why have these nonesence rumours been posted and the Half Life 2 source code leak hasnt? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lord Fondlemaid
11:01 3/10/2003
"could this be the final nail in the coffin for CS?"

Hopefully! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Andeh
11:01 3/10/2003
probally just rumour about that. Like they care anyway, they made a small mod and now they've got top jobs at valve. They couldn't care less about cs imo. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Andeh
11:02 3/10/2003
lol ghost :) agreed!

and like i said, you WILL be able to pay every month IF you wish too. If you do then you get the latest games from valve free via download. Gabe Newell stated it would be in the region of $9.95 p/m [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Andeh
11:04 3/10/2003
Gabe Newell answered all these rumours last month :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
11:04 3/10/2003
Now thats the death of CS. hahaha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
11:06 3/10/2003
I like the way they use cs players to beta test thier peice of s***.

Loads of people pay monthly to play rpgs, and I think people will pay for steam aswell. It has to be worth while though, with contant game updates/steam. Because if they arent going to host servers like rpgs do, then the money should be spent on development. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Katori
Choke
11:06 3/10/2003
Oh dear! New poll comming? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
11:06 3/10/2003
lol annum, dont laff....if it dies.....u'll never become a pro gamer! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
11:07 3/10/2003
Halo.pro!

I need that goddamned game! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
11:08 3/10/2003
u sorted m8 :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
11:08 3/10/2003
lol loxam will bend u over and stamp pwned on ur ass :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
11:08 3/10/2003
Until they block cheats, a monthly charge is a joke. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
11:08 3/10/2003
u either pay $9.99 a month for all steam content, or u buy the retail version (of whatever game be it hl2, cs2, tf2) and get it free for life. nothing will change for the normal person who buys the retail [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pauke
11:14 3/10/2003
I saw it coming…worst thing would be if we the game would let the get aways with it…cause if we do it would un-doubtfully pave the way for may chargeable FPS services in other games as well… Personally I’m disgusted how they tiring to squeeze every more cash out of there loyal fanbase…Hopefully it come back and bite them in their fat arses! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dravicus
11:15 3/10/2003
pay2play with a game like half life is bulls***, basically valve relys on people to host servers and pay the expenses of the servers bandwidth costs+hardware etc, whilst at the same time valve makes money from the gamers paying the monthly fee. Its like the internet version of wiring your flats electricity up to the shop downstairs, they pay all the bills and u get all the profit out of it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SuBtaFuGe
Silent Killers 187
11:17 3/10/2003
"reliable sources" -> more details please? (link, copy of the email etc) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
11:19 3/10/2003
lol dont be silly they aint gonna tell u who they get info off. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SuBtaFuGe
Silent Killers 187
11:20 3/10/2003
until this is confirmed in an official capacity, surely worrymongering with "rumour" is not a good way to go about this? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ghost
ctx
11:21 3/10/2003
subtafuge, he has no evidence as his rumours are clearly wrong.

May i ask why this is posted and rumours like 'Will PlayerX join 4kings?' arent? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Krispy
11:25 3/10/2003
glad no one saw this coming! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Boldie
11:29 3/10/2003
me and im sure alot of other ppl have known about valve making it p2p for weeks....thats what makes ppl believe this post. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
l3ig2
Game2XS
11:29 3/10/2003
no feckin way im paying to play! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Strikes
11:31 3/10/2003
rofl o/ weeee bye bye cs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
11:34 3/10/2003
Where is the news in this post please?

What was the point of posting this at all? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
11:37 3/10/2003
#unicon.halo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SoliD^
11:37 3/10/2003
/amsg need sponsor to pay for STEAM [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
11:38 3/10/2003
Steam cought the gay [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Coopsy
Landed
11:41 3/10/2003
lol solid. tbh it is a bit crap yer, its certainly more effort, and it does mean admitting to the fact I play cs, rather than accidently double clicking the ASE icon from time to time ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poog
Disturbed
11:43 3/10/2003
i think youve got it wrong, steam will eventually charge yes but the charge is for games. the whole idea behind steam was that ppl can buy there games from the own home and not have to go to a store to get them. as it says free products ie half life and cs as you have allready paid for them [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
David Smith
Infinity-eSports
11:45 3/10/2003
I'd pay. Like I'd pay for any game I like.

Some of you will have ot get a job! :E

:D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Coopsy
Landed
11:48 3/10/2003
yer true, we (as a community) are over reacting as usual, but its just a kinda wake up call u know, that you DO have to pay for games (yes i bought a £10 budget copy of HL for a CD key...) dunno, just seems like a jab in the ribs tbh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
critter
11:50 3/10/2003
if youre on about the myg0t email from chris newcombe, its about peer-to-peer steam (p2p), not pay-to-play (also p2p). think you might have misunderstood/read someone saying p2p and mis-interpreting it for pay-to-play.

in this email its the valve guy saying that due to crippling server bandwidth and stuff theyre going to implement more verification features to ensure ppl have bought hl, and by using p2p therell be more bandwidth freed up so everythings faster etc.

and as marcus rightfully points out if you buy the full retail version you get hl2 multiplayer and everything free. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N3M-
endeffect
11:53 3/10/2003
Its a wee shame [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ilic``
Team56
11:54 3/10/2003
probably great valve wp, this abbot fella sounds like he needs a good bumming, and i know the man for the job

JollyKebabMan, go get him buddy [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
11:55 3/10/2003
i agree with poog, thats how im reading it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ilic``
Team56
11:56 3/10/2003
abbot?? i mean Newall, where did abbot come from :|
i am losing it, oh no, bad news for me [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rimmer
11:57 3/10/2003
They won't charge anybody who has a valid CD key, the backlash would be too great. What they will probably do is just charge the new installs from people who have lost/never had a valid copy of a Valve game.

FUD wins the day again, wp to all ppl stupid enough to fall for this bs :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Demun
got:Game
11:58 3/10/2003
how much they thinking or charging is the question :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pimpboy
feo
11:59 3/10/2003
cs is not worth the monthly subscription that they intend because its inpossible to get a fair game in counterstrike unless playing the right people.

"IF" valve want to make us pay for counterstrike then maybe they should get off their arses and code the game better to rid the cheats/cfg out of the game as best they can not what they are doing atm THEN and only THEN will counterstrike become a viable product to sell via steam to the online masses. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marc
12:01 3/10/2003
oh no 25p a day :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
critter
12:02 3/10/2003
its not hard to understand guys. youve got many options:

1) buy hl2 single player only
2) buy hl2 full edition and get full mp and everything hl2 related free
3) pay $9.99 a month to steam and get hl2, full mp, and *every other game* they release on steam

steam/cs/hl is all free as long as you have a valid cd key, and will continue to be so. its not "pay to play", its "pay to d/l games"

as usual everyones misreading, jumping to conclusions and screaming their heads off :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
4K^m0rph
12:03 3/10/2003
they owe sweet fa to the community. Fact that the game has s*** loads of problems with registry, netcode etc. is probably due to there never being a p2p system in place in the first place.

p2p = bad, but if u can pay a one off 30 quid, or even 35, to have a game which most people on here play to excess hours, is worth it. It has a higher life span than anything else on the market, so providing thats true, you have nothing to complain about really. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
critter
12:04 3/10/2003
"IF" valve want to make us pay for counterstrike then maybe they should get off their arses and code the game better to rid the cheats/cfg out of the game as best they can not what they are doing atm THEN and only THEN will counterstrike become a viable product to sell via steam to the online masses.

cs has been a 'viable' product for years, does the word 'retail' mean anything to u? even if cs was made pay to play (which its not, as steam is free, and hl/cs is free as long as u have a genuine cd key), 100,000 ppl would still sign up. and most likely the ppl who did sign up wouldnt be the w**kers and cheats. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Meth
ForsakeN
12:06 3/10/2003
greedy basts [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
patriK
12:07 3/10/2003
*sigh* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
12:10 3/10/2003
people pay alot more than 10 quid a month to run around in armour, carrying a sword and shield and fight orcs ; its not relaly that bad, but I think its wot poog has said.

/me cuddles [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pimpboy
feo
12:10 3/10/2003
the retail version was not a viable product at all due to the fact you could download it straight from the internet for free!!!!!!!! its HALFLIFE that has remained the viable product not counterstrike.There was absolutley no need at all to go out and buy counterstrike retail in the slightest for christ sake it cost more on release than HL and its other addons put together.Counterstrike was BORN from halflife and if you want to play counterstike the least you can do is pay homage to the origional game and buy that instead of the retail. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
BaL
12:10 3/10/2003
ill stick with critter on this 1 but only course i dont wanna pay :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brutal
The Next Generation
12:14 3/10/2003
Hmm, as I predicted, move to halo was the right choice :)
#unicon ask for me if u fancy yourself as a halo player :)

The game is a pile of w**k tho! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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