Valve Interview and the Shield of Doom

Posted by NoToRiOuS at 15:25 21/11/2002.

Erik has been a busy man lately and has taken some time out to be interviewed on Battle-Fields.com. The interview initially discusses Steam 2.0 with some technical details regarding steam for those new to it. Towards the end is where the juicy bits come in. We all know about the new weapons, FAMAS, Galil and of course the riot shield. But did you know this:
Can you elaborate on the shield in particular? How effective do you think it will be beyond the first round given its inability to fully stop rifle fire?

In the current implementation, it will fully stop rifle fire.

It's an interesting interview and contains a few other bits of info. Definitely worth spending sometime on. To read the full thing click here.

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w1cked__
15:32 21/11/2002
LOL, how you supposed to kill some1 with it then.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NoToRiOuS
2 COOL 4 SKOOL
UKTerrorist
15:33 21/11/2002
will be fun tho lol ^_^

Form a train and every1 is behind u/

MEEP MEEP tank coming through. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:34 21/11/2002
it will spoil the game? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rupert
omg - no !
15:35 21/11/2002
nah it will just make ppl more sneaky and they will go round the back :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
alpha
Da boss
Inspired Gaming
15:36 21/11/2002
I think unless the shield at least stopped some rifle fire it'd be a pretty pointless addition, but stopping all of it will unbalance the game a little too much. Either it should reduce it by say 50%, or it should be possible to weaken the shield with repeated fire. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
alpha
Da boss
Inspired Gaming
15:37 21/11/2002
Oh and there are a couple of screenshots subtly hidden at the top of the interview incase people haven't seen pictures of it. And there's some TFC news in there too :). [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:40 21/11/2002
alpha should work for valve [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg ! Sarge
Shoot First Ask Later
15:42 21/11/2002
on the contrary alpha, i rekon its better that it stops ALL rifle fire, will make hings alot more interesting :) rather than just having some cu.nt spray twice as much as you to kill you, now they will actualy have to think, there goes half of BY CS publics players :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
15:45 21/11/2002
phew, I'm 'safe'...

....but now 'safer' with my trusty Riot shield ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Havors
15:47 21/11/2002
shield + cfg = invincible.

sigh, i hope they lock the console [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:47 21/11/2002
why lock the console ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ho3x
15:48 21/11/2002
ok so if people was to all cramp in corner on pistols or something , would be so unfair on t's how hell would u kill people ?!? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
omg ! Sarge
Shoot First Ask Later
15:51 21/11/2002
nah not lock console, need it for name change. just lock every f***ing CVAR there is :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaM
15:53 21/11/2002
clint you aliasing fag [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
15:55 21/11/2002
Finally my dream of recreating the Roman style turtle formation in the CPL's is coming that bit closer .... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arma
15:56 21/11/2002
im sure this has been posted twice already lol :P

also, shield = primary weapon, so all they have is a crappy pistol, could be good for eco rounds later on in the game tho? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:57 21/11/2002
"In the current implementation, it will fully stop rifle fire"

thats f***ing s*** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
hihi
zebras
16:03 21/11/2002
spam greandes at the c*** :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
16:05 21/11/2002
jobs a gud 'un [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
naazz
16:09 21/11/2002
gah sod off with the lame "lets make cs into a big online chess match"... this is such a gay idea. I cant wait to see all the gays on public servers hiding behind one guy with a shield, all waiting with their p90s to jump out...

sounds like a load of s***, valve obviously dont wanna make a skill-based game, so why not just take out strafing and take out the crosshair... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
16:12 21/11/2002
bet it won't stop Rhyzz's duals [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
16:12 21/11/2002
bet his aim could get his bullets thru the peep hole, where could your aim get your bullets? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cae
16:20 21/11/2002
yes, when the guy is hid behind the shield he cant be hit, but he cant hit u either since u have to move the shield out of the way to shoot :> imo gonna be good [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
16:31 21/11/2002
wow.. really "new" news! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dravicus
16:42 21/11/2002
yes i did know that, since about a week ago :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rude^
Jay Bee Eye!
16:42 21/11/2002
re:camping on pistols, by the look of that screenshot, the shield costs $1000 and thats without extra ammo for the 5-7, so that rules it out til the 2nd round [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arma
16:46 21/11/2002
gah sod off with the lame "lets make cs into a big online chess match"... this is such a gay idea. I cant wait to see all the gays on public servers hiding behind one guy with a shield, all waiting with their p90s to jump out...

if u read about it b4 posting then you would realise that when you buy the shield it takes up ur primary weapon slot, i.e. u cant have a colt or an AWP or a mp5 or anything, and you have to use the FN57 aswell. And to shoot back you move the shield to the side, so its not as bad as you make it out to be [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
16:53 21/11/2002
notice 'hiding behind one guy with a shield' if you would of read what he said, before posting, you wouldnt make yourself look like such an idiot. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ryano
theb0g
16:58 21/11/2002
Sounds like an absolute class idea, anything that can possibly add depth to the tactics side of things is a great addition. As long as the rifles are competent and worth using the game is going to not only take on a whole new depth but we're gunna see some new types of kills as well as some new tactics.

Its keeping the game alive not killing it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
16:59 21/11/2002
the riot shield will be used about as much as the mac10 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
17:00 21/11/2002
lol I agree with iron [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
17:02 21/11/2002
and if you didn't insult everyone you spoke to iron, you wouldn't make yourself look like such a prat [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arma
17:04 21/11/2002
sorry iron ur right, although why he has to stereotype all P90 users, pfft.

thats just wrong [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
17:30 21/11/2002
Would love to see some shield walls on the BY 32 man server. Although after 30 secs of laughing i'll prob get p***ed and leave at the incompetence of teammates not heing them (that is to say if I ever played on that server which I do not!) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
17:49 21/11/2002
why the f*** has this been posted 3 times now? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
17:53 21/11/2002
It probably won't stop grenades, so just gren the riot shielding gits. Plus it won't cover their ENTIRE body, so just shoot em from the side or behind. Or at least that's what i hope. :o and also, its the current implementation. Not necessarily the one that will be used in 1.6 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
17:57 21/11/2002
and i think the shields are a great idea, should add some new interesting ideas to eco rounds

although i think it should stop all main rifle fire, will it completely stop awp? coz i still think it should be -60% dmg from an awp shot or summin but block everything else, coz lets face it if awp does no damage whatsoever the guy with the shield has a MASSIVE advantage over the sniper, run out with shield sniper shoots and has ages till the next shot time for u to pop out ur pea shooter and own him unless he's right next to a wall to cover behind or ur slow pulling pistol out and the sniper changes first & has a more powerful pistol.

anyone with a rifle and half a brain should find a way to kill a shield user easily but its just the snipers that should worry imo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
17:58 21/11/2002
and it shouldnt stop HE's, considering apparently in CS HE's can take off 60hp through a 5ft wall anyway i doubt a lil shield is gonna do much to stop em [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
18:24 21/11/2002
If you were actually somebody, or i cared what you think, i might take what you said into consideration [RHINO]DaKid [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
18:26 21/11/2002
You can just imagine being on blueyonder and having 5+ people trampling on you with their riot shields, immitating the tactics used by roman soldiers or something. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
18:30 21/11/2002
who the f*** cares about randomyonder though u should just be thinking about matches [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
18:31 21/11/2002
when would you use this in a match? pistol round you only have $800, and i assume the shield will cost more, eco rounds you dont buy anything, and im sure most people will favour the shield over a colt and armour after that...or not [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
18:33 21/11/2002
er, a lot of clans do buy pistols on eco though, and if the shields only $1000 they might try it with some different tactics, u never know it might completely change the idea of an eco round [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
18:36 21/11/2002
well, if in 1.6 it still does stop all rifle fire, then it could be used really well, you have the hole to look through, so if you stick in a group of 5, and make sure ur constantly looking at them through the hole, ensuring u cant get shot from the side, you could all just pop out and whack them out with ur 57 at the same time, so i see what you mean. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
18:49 21/11/2002
camp in a corner back to the wall D:? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
hihi
zebras
18:55 21/11/2002
cant realy see the riot shield being that usefull for CT's in a war considering CT's dont realy rush on a de_ map :P

But it could be good 2 cover one guy while he takes a few T's out.. :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
18:59 21/11/2002
ye i mainly meant T ecos in wot i said though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
19:07 21/11/2002
The thing with hes, you'd have to back off behind a corner or something when you get a HE out. Try and throw one in view and prepare to be 5-7d, unless of course the WONDERFUL gun animations of cs 1.5 delay you in changing shield to 5-7. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
19:46 21/11/2002
shads, its a ct only weapon.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
19:49 21/11/2002
it says that in the interview, and u cant buy a 5-7 on terrors :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
19:52 21/11/2002
cant wait to see someone crouching with a shield against an eco, just sit there and turn as the oppositon circle strafe trying to shoot em, classic. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
19:53 21/11/2002
they'll use up all their ammo and rounds will go down to knife fights, or the ct's will just wait and cain em [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
19:58 21/11/2002
oops @:D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
20:20 21/11/2002
wow iron actually got flamed for not actually doing anything wrong, and is putting decent points across!

For once he is comming across an o.k kind of guy :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
20:23 21/11/2002
i never even flamed him though? an it was me not being arsed to re-read the interview after it being posted twice before this so i forgot it was ct only :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
20:33 21/11/2002
not talking bout u chill :)

talking bout DaKid [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
20:53 21/11/2002
notice 'hiding behind one guy with a shield' if you would of read what he said, before posting, you wouldnt make yourself look like such an idiot.

Apart from the fact that he's obviously gonna fail his English 11-plus exam, he seems to take great delight in insulting others. Of course he'll have to reply, even though he doesn't care what I say, so that he can insult someone again :) Good on you Iron ... you keep up the good swearing and insulting ... wtg :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
21:10 21/11/2002
how about u just shut the f*** up u prat

btw im on a roll tonight ryu :S [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:16 21/11/2002
DaKid, i can see you take great care and presentation in your UKT comments. You can put that down on your CV to show how amazing you are at english...get the f*** out of my face noob. HE HE HE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:16 21/11/2002
nothing wrong with iron.

apart from his c**kiness.
and argumentative manner.
and lack of common-sense.
and general stupidity.
..and fat head.

hmm. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:18 21/11/2002
Shut your fat hands up dickhead, im suprised theres no typos because your fat hands hit too many keys at once... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:18 21/11/2002
his comments are sometimes funny though !

in a stupid way, lacking wit and retrospect. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:19 21/11/2002
See de fhunny haasdhsha
askdjas:lkdjsd*!@#a!@)#!
@ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:19 21/11/2002
Im sure if i disected your comment DaKid styleeeeeee then i would find something wrong with it n00beh! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
21:20 21/11/2002
DaKid owns tbh. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:20 21/11/2002
oh and gaz dear, you spelt surprised incorrectly, maybe you couldn't get your fat head around the spelling ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:21 21/11/2002
Dissected gaz my dear. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:22 21/11/2002
f***ing GOD DAMMIT, how am i ever gonna pass my 11+ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:24 21/11/2002
DaKid you're my idle, can i have your autograph? LET ME JOIN [RHINO][PRO'S] please!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:24 21/11/2002
with a teacher that lets you read your french oral exam upside down, just like everyone else.

true story. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:25 21/11/2002
<EndGame|iron> i give in. stop owning me plz.

p.s DaKid would be your "idol". [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:26 21/11/2002
You need a capital "W" to start your sentence, n00beh. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:29 21/11/2002
Stop www.dictionary.com'ing me dickhead. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:29 21/11/2002
Resorting to pedantry are we dear. To even worse a degree than myself. I salute you. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:31 21/11/2002
"Resorting to pedantry are we dear."
There should be a question mark at the end of that sentence, not a fullstop. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:33 21/11/2002
i·ron ( P ) (rn)
n.
Symbol Fe A silvery-white, lustrous, malleable, ductile, magnetic or magnetizable, metallic element occurring abundantly in combined forms, notably in hematite, limonite, magnetite, and taconite, and used alloyed in a wide range of important structural materials. Atomic number 26; atomic weight 55.845; melting point 1,535°C; boiling point 2,750°C; specific gravity 7.874 (at 20°C); valence 2, 3, 4, 6. See table at element.
An implement made of iron alloy or similar metal, especially a bar heated for use in branding, curling hair, or cauterizing.
Great hardness or strength; firmness: a will of iron.
Sports. Any of a series of golf clubs having a bladelike metal head and numbered from one to nine in order of increasing loft.
A metal appliance with a handle and a weighted flat bottom, used when heated to press wrinkles from fabric.
A harpoon.
irons Fetters; shackles.
A tonic, pill, or other medication containing iron and taken as a dietary supplement. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:34 21/11/2002
What is your point? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
n00beh
21:34 21/11/2002
Not if im using rhetoric. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
21:35 21/11/2002
I have felt the brunt of iron's rath, so I am probably one of the least likely people to defend him as I did above, but for once, just once he didn't do anything wrong :/

As for his actions after what has been said above I do not agree with ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
21:35 21/11/2002
Yes, you still do, GAME, SET AND MATCH, GET THE f*** OFF MY WEBSITE. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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