VALVe Cracking Down On Cheaters

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	Ripper Rush! 15:08 13/4/2004	crack [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`Spectre Intrigue 15:08 13/4/2004	good job [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	arsen Head Arse UKTerrorist 15:08 13/4/2004	(This was an automated post) As yet another VAC update hits our screens, it appears the top bods at Valve are working harder than ever to rid their game of the cheaters and hackers that infest CS. As our resident configing/hacking smartarse, Seaweed recently pointed out in one of his columns, Valve have been successful in stamping out many hacks almost as soon as they are made public. At long last it appears Valve may be winning the war against the hackers and in an attempt to deal them another blow, Valve's Nick Shaffner has announced a bounty on their heads. In true Ransom style, Nick revealed plans to offer a prize (non-monetary) to anyone who could give them information on any un-detected hacks or BETA versions of un-released cheats. He also made it clear that using cheats of any kind is a violation of the standard End User License Agreement. So if you happen to know of any 'dirty' hacks in the pipeline, E-Mail Nick right now, before someone else claims your prize! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ryano theb0g 15:08 13/4/2004	Maybe with the decline in popularity of cs and the increase in valves measures to protect there is no incentive to hack cs. Especially with the impending release of Half Life 2. I also heard that hackers have plans to foil Valve by having a whole string of cheats waiting for Half Life 2, made through the leaked version of the game. That would certainly be a blow considering Doom being released at the same time. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zui 15:10 13/4/2004	show me the money ill tell you where the cheats are [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cobbeh fluid element 15:10 13/4/2004	ok [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 15:11 13/4/2004	No but i got a number for ray mallom.. hes the super cop around our way [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked Croydon 15:11 13/4/2004	w00t! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Roar^ 15:12 13/4/2004	GL VAC, actually doing something about cheaters is always a good thing. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 15:16 13/4/2004	ul team accused. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 15:20 13/4/2004	would be nice if ppl actually put vac back onto there servers now pld loads of pcw's on non vac servers last couple days people hacking there tits off [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 15:21 13/4/2004	safe ¬_¬ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Landen Point Five-O 15:30 13/4/2004	ohh good job. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MaCcA^ 15:31 13/4/2004	quality [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Venomous BLACKLiGHT 15:33 13/4/2004	hehe, so now they are going to create their own cheats and give them in to valve for prizes? awesome :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wardie 15:33 13/4/2004	Maybe with the decline in popularity of cs and the increase in valves measures to protect there is no incentive to hack cs. Especially with the impending release of Half Life 2. I also heard that hackers have plans to foil Valve by having a whole string of cheats waiting for Half Life 2, made through the leaked version of the game. That would certainly be a blow considering Doom being released at the same time. Not true, that is why the game was further delayed, so they could preent this from happening by editing the code slightly. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Undone^ ForsakeN 15:34 13/4/2004	most sensible thing you've ever said dbz [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 15:34 13/4/2004	s***loads of ppl took vac off there servers becoz it locked interp to 0.05 -0.1 and affected bullit reg in the last vac update u can now set terp below 0.05 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	spicyjj 15:40 13/4/2004	hairy; you may have his number, but you sure don't know his name. It's Ray Mallon aka. Robocop who cut crime in Middlesbrough by 18% in his first year as one of only 12 elected Mayors within the UK. Excellent. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	abom 15:42 13/4/2004	a million pounds says in a few weeks they cracked it valve are s* wkers [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ogg^ #Harmless 15:55 13/4/2004	s*** :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:00 13/4/2004	[cheat site url edited out] [cheat site] all ready tells them, what is and isnt detected? why not just visit cheat sites on a regular basis? ============== [cheat site] SAYS: At this point, I'm only interested in things not readily available via web search engines. I'm particularly interested in unreleased beta versions of major cheat programs. - Nick ============== What does VAC do anyway? ban Steam ID's? and for how long? [Edited by arsen at 18:58, 13/4/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 16:01 13/4/2004	Yeah spicy thats him.. he used to go to my gym and bench press transit vans [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:01 13/4/2004	................... [ Score: -1, pointless \| Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ensnare Atari.Crew 16:01 13/4/2004	if only they updated it on a weekly basis :[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 16:02 13/4/2004	Or you could post cheat websites for everyone! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:03 13/4/2004	maybe if they just invented some kind of super cheat worthy of pro wrestlers which picked up config cheats aswell then just gave the hacker/configger a really harsh super ban which would ruin their job in the WWE [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:05 13/4/2004	isn't there a global ban list? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Farley quintessential 16:06 13/4/2004	Hopefully this will bring back people to the game, as the rapid decline in intrest for cs is not nice to see :( gl VAC, and yeah they do check cheat sites, duh :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	naan 16:09 13/4/2004	lol.exe still works like a dream tbh! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cindy 16:10 13/4/2004	gg. fact is software is created by humans and can be manipulated by humans. simple as. But it is good that they are starting to crack down on hacks, havent seen which ones are blocked but i hope the OGC intelligence versions have been stopped after like half a year of not being detected. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	OverlordRob Asylum.uk 16:21 13/4/2004	the decline in interest is not a cheat related thing...CS has been cheat infested for years now...people are just getting bored of lpaying the same maps over and over again and at the same slow pace bring back 1.3 :) give us some fun on public again it has to be said i havent seen a blatent cheat in a while though which is nice..and yes playing pcws on non vac servers is alwasy dodgy...avoid [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:21 13/4/2004	give all hackers a rock bottom as punishment [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:25 13/4/2004	ROFL @ Cindy's Previous Clans! I had a cheat on our server the other day, by the name of SkiP we gave him a 1 day ID BAN, then about 4 days later there was another odd looking player and we asked him if his name was SkiP, lol @ his reply? "If I tell the truth what will happen?" Lol instant ban for skip, cheats are easy to spot, they have amazing aim but crap game sense? they dont look at the spots they should be covering! Have stupid high sensitivity noob things like that... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TonyMontana IEO 16:26 13/4/2004	Followed by a people's elbow tbh As for public, I think CSDM is far superior :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cindy 16:30 13/4/2004	^^ CSDM is mental and deserves to be banned. People spawning behind u just sucks :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:41 13/4/2004	maybe get RVD to give them a fivestar-frogsplash after the peoples elbow is done, just to make sure they dont do it again pro wrestlers @ cs 4eva! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Bodkin 2seXeh 2perfoRm 16:53 13/4/2004	"cheats are easy to spot..." ...numbers in their name!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Tunny Jay Bee Eye! 16:53 13/4/2004	Are the prizes good enough to justify me creating new cheats? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Demun got:Game 16:57 13/4/2004	Vac updates, so cheats update , its like a nights work for hackers :i dont think there ever get rid of it tbh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 17:10 13/4/2004	The difference this time is they have caught out alot of cheaters who have hopefully had their cd keys banned. Anyone know how the ban system works now? It used to be somethings stupid like 3-4 warnings before a permanent ban. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:17 13/4/2004	/me designs cheat reports it and wins a car [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 17:27 13/4/2004	its hard to get hold of a working cd key most of the hacked keys have already been registered on steam so basically if u aint got a spare key that aint been registered ur f***ed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:36 13/4/2004	Just buy Half Life, it must be so cheap now they're giving it away for free. It's gone platinum whatever, it's been voted game of the year etc. I bought it about 6 months ago when steam came out for £9.99 from PCworld :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:37 13/4/2004	Also apparently if you get VAC banned and then create a new steam account, you can play yet again. They're only rumours i've heard but I mean I'm not sure how VAC works, I think it bans your steamid and not your cdkey. Which is well, very f***ing stupid. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 17:42 13/4/2004	haha I've looking on [a cheat site], and the amount of whining, hormonal children who've been caught out is hilarious. Some cheat named Slay0r had constantly been re-released and again caught out within a matter of hours. The amount of people banned in them hours thinking the new cheat updates were safe, must have been comical :) [Edited by arsen at 17:43, 13/4/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 17:45 13/4/2004	Thanks for that arsen, i won't do it again i promise! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wolfie WanadooWolfie 17:49 13/4/2004	was on a server this morning and every other minute, there was a 'xxxxxxxxx disconnected from secure server'. Thought VAC was having a breakdown or something, just quite sad how many people do have cheats on their computer. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 17:50 13/4/2004	arsen on the ball :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:52 13/4/2004	polaris that isnt true, although for the first month or so of steam it wasnt verifying cd keys so you could indeed just register a new account with the same key. However that was fixed ages ago and duplicate accounts deleted. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:53 13/4/2004	the amount of whinging on the hacking sites is proper funny, i say the ukt massive invades one of their forums. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 17:53 13/4/2004	s* we're f*ed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:55 13/4/2004	Well that's what I've heard, I mean let's ask someone who got busted as they'd be able to tell us o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:55 13/4/2004	its true just look on the cheat site forums mate they're all begging for cd keys [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:56 13/4/2004	I don't know any sites, or want to look at them :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:57 13/4/2004	k well trust me and stop spreading slander :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 18:00 13/4/2004	lol seaweed i've already invaded a few [cheat sites]giving them a bit of abuse for having nothing better to do with their lives. Seems like the cheaters are all worried as to what they will have to do in the future if they can't get their skill in a zip file. ROLL ON THE VALVE WAR MACHINE. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 18:02 13/4/2004	I trust you, the first person that comes to my mind when you say .cfg is Seeeeeewead :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FLOOiD 18:03 13/4/2004	Other night played 3 pcws, 1 player out the first, and then a player out the third got vac banned the next day. Funny how one of the players was dreaM, and after we drew with his clan they all joined our channel HAHAHA YOU'RE s* HAHAHAHA. Yes well done. And the amount of players caught on public is amazing, it's like I'll join, and while I'm buying some poor c* will get banned, then as I'm running to a bombsite someone else will get banned. Comedy. ul intrigue you guys are gonna be f***ed! :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ReCoN^ 18:13 13/4/2004	Guess ill stick to configing then [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 18:20 13/4/2004	everyone accuses everyone... why even bother just let the anti cheats do their job and stfu if you have nothing of value to contribute either that or stone cold steve austin will pay you a visit in the months to come [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	David Smith Infinity-eSports 18:24 13/4/2004	I hate cheats just as much as I hate whining players. I can't stand idiots who shout cheat when a decent player enters their game and wipes out their team single handedly with a few well placed USP shots. It’s not hard to do in a world of public servers full of stupid inexperienced players, and then the even more inexperienced admin shows his ugly head and bans the only decent player from the game for cheating. That winds me up and it’s the reason I only play LAN and on private servers with people I know. What’s needed as well as increased anti cheat functions is adequate admins who do their jobs properly. Yeah you can't admin a server 24/7 but while there is no admin available lock it off as a private server. Maybe a GUI derived report cheat function could be implemented easily enough in to the current GUI, so players with some knowledge of what is happening can cast their opinions on who is cheating and report/vote ban them with a majority vote. Personally I know of several Windows operating system flaws that allow for transparency related benefits for CounterStrike. They are not even cheats; they are Windows faults and can't be detected through VAC or any other anti-cheat gateway. No matter what Valve does there will always be someone out there with an advantage. The fewer of them out there the better but there will always be someone. What it comes down to is better report features and better administration features built in to Counterstrike would be just as beneficial as anti-cheat updates. As for those dumb admins out there who are quick to ban a player using skill rather than cheats, grow up! I say bollox to cheats and dumb admins! Time will tell if what Valve plan to do will have any good results but I expect we will still be in the same position next year.......And the year after........Etc. Still stuck with poor admins and too many cheats. :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 18:26 13/4/2004	Bodkin 2seXeh 2perfoRm 16:53, 13/4/2004 "cheats are easy to spot..." ...numbers in their name!!!! like 2s2p? :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Loxam Lite 18:31 13/4/2004	Quick, to GOOGLE! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Anisty- Prozac 18:31 13/4/2004	you're so boring david [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Loxam Lite 18:32 13/4/2004	CS-Manager, the non-cheat ridden cs! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 18:35 13/4/2004	numbers in your name is so 80's [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-Naz- fightclubclan 18:45 13/4/2004	cheats are about as easy to spot as crap clans [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beLL 18:46 13/4/2004	whats a name of a cheat site forum plz, i dont play cs but wanna read the s*** they say. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 18:48 13/4/2004	beLL @ google? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beLL 19:02 13/4/2004	come on u must no loads :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 19:23 13/4/2004	jsut got an email back from valve nice to see they're actually reading and monitoring everything. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 19:30 13/4/2004	seaweed, GLC are f***ing class, serious dude, cheers for pointing them out :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 19:46 13/4/2004	lol Otis nps spread the word /me mcdonalds for sunday lunch [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	N3M- endeffect 20:10 13/4/2004	/me creates some hacks and e-mails valve :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	jammin 20:21 13/4/2004	Bell forgive me for asking but if you dont play cs why comment on UKT which is surprisingly enough a counterstrike site(hard to believe sometimes i know). Can we start taking the p*** out of C4u yet im bored of cheat stuff. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RuLe\| 20:37 13/4/2004	wp valve caught a few people out already, not mentioning any names dreaM :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 20:59 13/4/2004	Instant lifelong ban for all cheats. Australian Olympic Committee have got the right attitude ... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	$aVa$ ImaGine 21:04 13/4/2004	lol at that dreaM guy, he's one of these players cheating his ass off vs you and still cannot beat your clan, then joins your irc channel to tell you how s*** you are ... god i love online cs NOT! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	gand 21:41 13/4/2004	is that a new dreaM mateys? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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	Ripper Rush! 15:08 13/4/2004	crack [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	`Spectre Intrigue 15:08 13/4/2004	good job [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	arsen Head Arse UKTerrorist 15:08 13/4/2004	(This was an automated post) As yet another VAC update hits our screens, it appears the top bods at Valve are working harder than ever to rid their game of the cheaters and hackers that infest CS. As our resident configing/hacking smartarse, Seaweed recently pointed out in one of his columns, Valve have been successful in stamping out many hacks almost as soon as they are made public. At long last it appears Valve may be winning the war against the hackers and in an attempt to deal them another blow, Valve's Nick Shaffner has announced a bounty on their heads. In true Ransom style, Nick revealed plans to offer a prize (non-monetary) to anyone who could give them information on any un-detected hacks or BETA versions of un-released cheats. He also made it clear that using cheats of any kind is a violation of the standard End User License Agreement. So if you happen to know of any 'dirty' hacks in the pipeline, E-Mail Nick right now, before someone else claims your prize! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ryano theb0g 15:08 13/4/2004	Maybe with the decline in popularity of cs and the increase in valves measures to protect there is no incentive to hack cs. Especially with the impending release of Half Life 2. I also heard that hackers have plans to foil Valve by having a whole string of cheats waiting for Half Life 2, made through the leaked version of the game. That would certainly be a blow considering Doom being released at the same time. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zui 15:10 13/4/2004	show me the money ill tell you where the cheats are [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cobbeh fluid element 15:10 13/4/2004	ok [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 15:11 13/4/2004	No but i got a number for ray mallom.. hes the super cop around our way [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked Croydon 15:11 13/4/2004	w00t! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Roar^ 15:12 13/4/2004	GL VAC, actually doing something about cheaters is always a good thing. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 15:16 13/4/2004	ul team accused. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 15:20 13/4/2004	would be nice if ppl actually put vac back onto there servers now pld loads of pcw's on non vac servers last couple days people hacking there tits off [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 15:21 13/4/2004	safe ¬_¬ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Landen Point Five-O 15:30 13/4/2004	ohh good job. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MaCcA^ 15:31 13/4/2004	quality [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Venomous BLACKLiGHT 15:33 13/4/2004	hehe, so now they are going to create their own cheats and give them in to valve for prizes? awesome :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wardie 15:33 13/4/2004	Maybe with the decline in popularity of cs and the increase in valves measures to protect there is no incentive to hack cs. Especially with the impending release of Half Life 2. I also heard that hackers have plans to foil Valve by having a whole string of cheats waiting for Half Life 2, made through the leaked version of the game. That would certainly be a blow considering Doom being released at the same time. Not true, that is why the game was further delayed, so they could preent this from happening by editing the code slightly. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Undone^ ForsakeN 15:34 13/4/2004	most sensible thing you've ever said dbz [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 15:34 13/4/2004	s***loads of ppl took vac off there servers becoz it locked interp to 0.05 -0.1 and affected bullit reg in the last vac update u can now set terp below 0.05 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	spicyjj 15:40 13/4/2004	hairy; you may have his number, but you sure don't know his name. It's Ray Mallon aka. Robocop who cut crime in Middlesbrough by 18% in his first year as one of only 12 elected Mayors within the UK. Excellent. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	abom 15:42 13/4/2004	a million pounds says in a few weeks they cracked it valve are s* wkers [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ogg^ #Harmless 15:55 13/4/2004	s*** :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:00 13/4/2004	[cheat site url edited out] [cheat site] all ready tells them, what is and isnt detected? why not just visit cheat sites on a regular basis? ============== [cheat site] SAYS: At this point, I'm only interested in things not readily available via web search engines. I'm particularly interested in unreleased beta versions of major cheat programs. - Nick ============== What does VAC do anyway? ban Steam ID's? and for how long? [Edited by arsen at 18:58, 13/4/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 16:01 13/4/2004	Yeah spicy thats him.. he used to go to my gym and bench press transit vans [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:01 13/4/2004	................... [ Score: -1, pointless \| Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ensnare Atari.Crew 16:01 13/4/2004	if only they updated it on a weekly basis :[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 16:02 13/4/2004	Or you could post cheat websites for everyone! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:03 13/4/2004	maybe if they just invented some kind of super cheat worthy of pro wrestlers which picked up config cheats aswell then just gave the hacker/configger a really harsh super ban which would ruin their job in the WWE [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:05 13/4/2004	isn't there a global ban list? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Farley quintessential 16:06 13/4/2004	Hopefully this will bring back people to the game, as the rapid decline in intrest for cs is not nice to see :( gl VAC, and yeah they do check cheat sites, duh :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	naan 16:09 13/4/2004	lol.exe still works like a dream tbh! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cindy 16:10 13/4/2004	gg. fact is software is created by humans and can be manipulated by humans. simple as. But it is good that they are starting to crack down on hacks, havent seen which ones are blocked but i hope the OGC intelligence versions have been stopped after like half a year of not being detected. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	OverlordRob Asylum.uk 16:21 13/4/2004	the decline in interest is not a cheat related thing...CS has been cheat infested for years now...people are just getting bored of lpaying the same maps over and over again and at the same slow pace bring back 1.3 :) give us some fun on public again it has to be said i havent seen a blatent cheat in a while though which is nice..and yes playing pcws on non vac servers is alwasy dodgy...avoid [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:21 13/4/2004	give all hackers a rock bottom as punishment [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AGeNt7eVeN Clan Dirty 16:25 13/4/2004	ROFL @ Cindy's Previous Clans! I had a cheat on our server the other day, by the name of SkiP we gave him a 1 day ID BAN, then about 4 days later there was another odd looking player and we asked him if his name was SkiP, lol @ his reply? "If I tell the truth what will happen?" Lol instant ban for skip, cheats are easy to spot, they have amazing aim but crap game sense? they dont look at the spots they should be covering! Have stupid high sensitivity noob things like that... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TonyMontana IEO 16:26 13/4/2004	Followed by a people's elbow tbh As for public, I think CSDM is far superior :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	cindy 16:30 13/4/2004	^^ CSDM is mental and deserves to be banned. People spawning behind u just sucks :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 16:41 13/4/2004	maybe get RVD to give them a fivestar-frogsplash after the peoples elbow is done, just to make sure they dont do it again pro wrestlers @ cs 4eva! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Bodkin 2seXeh 2perfoRm 16:53 13/4/2004	"cheats are easy to spot..." ...numbers in their name!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Tunny Jay Bee Eye! 16:53 13/4/2004	Are the prizes good enough to justify me creating new cheats? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Demun got:Game 16:57 13/4/2004	Vac updates, so cheats update , its like a nights work for hackers :i dont think there ever get rid of it tbh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 17:10 13/4/2004	The difference this time is they have caught out alot of cheaters who have hopefully had their cd keys banned. Anyone know how the ban system works now? It used to be somethings stupid like 3-4 warnings before a permanent ban. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:17 13/4/2004	/me designs cheat reports it and wins a car [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dbz 17:27 13/4/2004	its hard to get hold of a working cd key most of the hacked keys have already been registered on steam so basically if u aint got a spare key that aint been registered ur f***ed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:36 13/4/2004	Just buy Half Life, it must be so cheap now they're giving it away for free. It's gone platinum whatever, it's been voted game of the year etc. I bought it about 6 months ago when steam came out for £9.99 from PCworld :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:37 13/4/2004	Also apparently if you get VAC banned and then create a new steam account, you can play yet again. They're only rumours i've heard but I mean I'm not sure how VAC works, I think it bans your steamid and not your cdkey. Which is well, very f***ing stupid. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 17:42 13/4/2004	haha I've looking on [a cheat site], and the amount of whining, hormonal children who've been caught out is hilarious. Some cheat named Slay0r had constantly been re-released and again caught out within a matter of hours. The amount of people banned in them hours thinking the new cheat updates were safe, must have been comical :) [Edited by arsen at 17:43, 13/4/2004] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 17:45 13/4/2004	Thanks for that arsen, i won't do it again i promise! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wolfie WanadooWolfie 17:49 13/4/2004	was on a server this morning and every other minute, there was a 'xxxxxxxxx disconnected from secure server'. Thought VAC was having a breakdown or something, just quite sad how many people do have cheats on their computer. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hairy Rush! 17:50 13/4/2004	arsen on the ball :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:52 13/4/2004	polaris that isnt true, although for the first month or so of steam it wasnt verifying cd keys so you could indeed just register a new account with the same key. However that was fixed ages ago and duplicate accounts deleted. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:53 13/4/2004	the amount of whinging on the hacking sites is proper funny, i say the ukt massive invades one of their forums. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 17:53 13/4/2004	s* we're f*ed [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:55 13/4/2004	Well that's what I've heard, I mean let's ask someone who got busted as they'd be able to tell us o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:55 13/4/2004	its true just look on the cheat site forums mate they're all begging for cd keys [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 17:56 13/4/2004	I don't know any sites, or want to look at them :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 17:57 13/4/2004	k well trust me and stop spreading slander :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Stevenson 18:00 13/4/2004	lol seaweed i've already invaded a few [cheat sites]giving them a bit of abuse for having nothing better to do with their lives. Seems like the cheaters are all worried as to what they will have to do in the future if they can't get their skill in a zip file. ROLL ON THE VALVE WAR MACHINE. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	polaris church 18:02 13/4/2004	I trust you, the first person that comes to my mind when you say .cfg is Seeeeeewead :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FLOOiD 18:03 13/4/2004	Other night played 3 pcws, 1 player out the first, and then a player out the third got vac banned the next day. Funny how one of the players was dreaM, and after we drew with his clan they all joined our channel HAHAHA YOU'RE s* HAHAHAHA. Yes well done. And the amount of players caught on public is amazing, it's like I'll join, and while I'm buying some poor c* will get banned, then as I'm running to a bombsite someone else will get banned. Comedy. ul intrigue you guys are gonna be f***ed! :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ReCoN^ 18:13 13/4/2004	Guess ill stick to configing then [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	dL Atari.Crew 18:20 13/4/2004	everyone accuses everyone... why even bother just let the anti cheats do their job and stfu if you have nothing of value to contribute either that or stone cold steve austin will pay you a visit in the months to come [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	David Smith Infinity-eSports 18:24 13/4/2004	I hate cheats just as much as I hate whining players. I can't stand idiots who shout cheat when a decent player enters their game and wipes out their team single handedly with a few well placed USP shots. It’s not hard to do in a world of public servers full of stupid inexperienced players, and then the even more inexperienced admin shows his ugly head and bans the only decent player from the game for cheating. That winds me up and it’s the reason I only play LAN and on private servers with people I know. What’s needed as well as increased anti cheat functions is adequate admins who do their jobs properly. Yeah you can't admin a server 24/7 but while there is no admin available lock it off as a private server. Maybe a GUI derived report cheat function could be implemented easily enough in to the current GUI, so players with some knowledge of what is happening can cast their opinions on who is cheating and report/vote ban them with a majority vote. Personally I know of several Windows operating system flaws that allow for transparency related benefits for CounterStrike. They are not even cheats; they are Windows faults and can't be detected through VAC or any other anti-cheat gateway. No matter what Valve does there will always be someone out there with an advantage. The fewer of them out there the better but there will always be someone. What it comes down to is better report features and better administration features built in to Counterstrike would be just as beneficial as anti-cheat updates. As for those dumb admins out there who are quick to ban a player using skill rather than cheats, grow up! I say bollox to cheats and dumb admins! Time will tell if what Valve plan to do will have any good results but I expect we will still be in the same position next year.......And the year after........Etc. Still stuck with poor admins and too many cheats. :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MonkH 18:26 13/4/2004	Bodkin 2seXeh 2perfoRm 16:53, 13/4/2004 "cheats are easy to spot..." ...numbers in their name!!!! like 2s2p? :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Loxam Lite 18:31 13/4/2004	Quick, to GOOGLE! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Anisty- Prozac 18:31 13/4/2004	you're so boring david [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Loxam Lite 18:32 13/4/2004	CS-Manager, the non-cheat ridden cs! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w00kie euthanasia 18:35 13/4/2004	numbers in your name is so 80's [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-Naz- fightclubclan 18:45 13/4/2004	cheats are about as easy to spot as crap clans [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beLL 18:46 13/4/2004	whats a name of a cheat site forum plz, i dont play cs but wanna read the s*** they say. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdAsIce ImaGine 18:48 13/4/2004	beLL @ google? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	beLL 19:02 13/4/2004	come on u must no loads :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 19:23 13/4/2004	jsut got an email back from valve nice to see they're actually reading and monitoring everything. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 19:30 13/4/2004	seaweed, GLC are f***ing class, serious dude, cheers for pointing them out :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seaweed 19:46 13/4/2004	lol Otis nps spread the word /me mcdonalds for sunday lunch [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	N3M- endeffect 20:10 13/4/2004	/me creates some hacks and e-mails valve :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	jammin 20:21 13/4/2004	Bell forgive me for asking but if you dont play cs why comment on UKT which is surprisingly enough a counterstrike site(hard to believe sometimes i know). Can we start taking the p*** out of C4u yet im bored of cheat stuff. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RuLe\| 20:37 13/4/2004	wp valve caught a few people out already, not mentioning any names dreaM :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PFCalcio THX 20:59 13/4/2004	Instant lifelong ban for all cheats. Australian Olympic Committee have got the right attitude ... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	$aVa$ ImaGine 21:04 13/4/2004	lol at that dreaM guy, he's one of these players cheating his ass off vs you and still cannot beat your clan, then joins your irc channel to tell you how s*** you are ... god i love online cs NOT! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	gand 21:41 13/4/2004	is that a new dreaM mateys? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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