Valve + Vivendi = Battle of Half-Life 2

Posted by NoToRiOuS at 10:25 21/9/2004.

It appears as though there is a huge legal battle between Valve and Vivendi (the publisher). Is this the reason why HL2 is delayed so long? GameSpot has managed to accumulate and compile the numerous events that has led up to this point.

It all started in 2002 when Valve sued Vivendi (previously called Sierra On-Line) on Copyright infringement laws regarding the sale of HL for internet café use. This is what Doug Lombardi had to say:

Valve sued Vivendi for copyright infringement back in 2002 over their unauthorized distribution of our products to cyber cafés. We later had to add breach of contract claims for, among other things, refusing to pay us royalties owed and delaying Condition Zero out of the holiday season.

So that was the reason why CS:CZ was delayed. In other parts Vivendi also claim that Steam is not a legitimate distribution system and is preparing to try and stop Valve from using it. Vivendi states that Valve had hidden their intentions of delivering content on-line:

This misleading half-truth was Newell's deliberate concealment of the extent to which Valve intended through the parties' negotiations to appropriate the substantial value of the distribution rights to Valve, rather than to Sierra and VUG.

As Vivendi are Half-Life's publishers they stand to lose money if the content is distributed on-line rather than exclusively by them (as it by passes them). Hence the huge battle over Steam. However GameSpot asked Doug Lombardi whether or not Valve will deliver the content via Steam regardless of the October 8th court decision, Doug simply replied, "Yes".

Read the full article and legal ramblings by heading over here.

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NoToRiOuS
2 COOL 4 SKOOL
UKTerrorist
11:31 21/9/2004
bt yahoo going down :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MadSpunk
Last Chance
11:34 21/9/2004
oh dear :( Delays and more delays... just release the game please! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MaCcA^
11:35 21/9/2004
:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brenje
reSonance
11:43 21/9/2004
So.. even after all this, Vivendi are still going to be the publishers of HL2?

Unless theres a contract valve cant get out of. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mast3r
11:54 21/9/2004
I think vivendi are just scared that they will lose out on alot of extra money!

Good news post, I didn't realise all this went on behind the scenes, I thought Valve and Vivendi where best friends. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AuroN
n00bhands
12:09 21/9/2004
omg h4x0r5 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
alpha
Da boss
Inspired Gaming
12:26 21/9/2004
Lose lose situation really. If Valve don't deliver HL2 via. steam then they lose money. If they do then Vivendi lose money. Either way their relationship is not looking healthy.

Let's just hope that both companies realise if they delay HL2 while the legal stuff is sorted out, they'll both lose money. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Magic^
13:12 21/9/2004
the seems odd how vivendi are saying they didnt see this coming about delivering half life 2 with steam... soon as i heard about steam it was clear that HL2 was the game they were targeting to sell thru it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mew
ClanNEW
13:24 21/9/2004
MOTHERf***ERS [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
$aVa$
ImaGine
14:20 21/9/2004
maybe because valve signed a long standing contract with vivendi for valves software where they are the one and only company to sell their games

and of course vivendi need to get their hands on any money they can get, because they were almost bankrupt or something if i recall it correctly

[Edited by $aVa$ at 14:21 21/9/2004] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
lk
15:52 21/9/2004
Gabe Newell = lies [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
16:14 21/9/2004
when I saw Warren Spector at EDF in London last month (I saw myers too!) he said something like:

"The sooner publishers go away and die somewhere, the better!"

I totally agree, and this is why I love the idea of Steam. It's bringing money to the people who develop the games, rather than a bunch of suits trying to satisfy some shareholders in France or New York. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ricochet
18:23 21/9/2004
DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
alkor
18:49 21/9/2004
gabe newell eats to many mcdonalds for my liking [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
qloudZ-
20:37 21/9/2004
Well said Mew. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:57 21/9/2004
Good to see people fighting steam. It is incapable of being a high quality delivery platform of finished products. They can't even release minor patches without significant downtime after countless months.

They should stick to using it as a patching system that still can't rival that of mmorpgs, and use it for beta testing games [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HazEh
00:31 22/9/2004
$$$ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
00:54 22/9/2004
the seems odd how vivendi are saying they didnt see this coming about delivering half life 2 with steam... soon as i heard about steam it was clear that HL2 was the game they were targeting to sell thru it
They meant they weren't aware what Valve were planning to do when they changed their contract details. They sued pretty much as soon as Steam came out.
It's bringing money to the people who develop the games, rather than a bunch of suits trying to satisfy some shareholders in France or New York.
Publishers aren't just random suits, they're the people who actually have the money to put your game out into the world AND make it sell for you. If Warren Spector hates publishers so much, why doesn't he go and press millions of copies of his games himself, and distribute them around the world. Oh, and organise advertising for it.

I'm with Vivendi on this. Firstly because if Valve wanted to publish HL2 themselves, why did they sign the ocntract with Vivendi? (coughadvancescough) Secondly, Steam is such a horrible way of distributing games, and so potentially intrusive. And thirdly, because Valve's counter-claim is simply them whining about losing out on cyber cafe money. And we all know what great opinions they have on that matter! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
lukuS
08:31 22/9/2004
w**kers :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
M4ce
intensiveSports
12:30 22/9/2004
imo Steam > WON

& HL2 b4 easter pls [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
23:16 22/9/2004
GIVE US THE f***ING GAME ALREADY! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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