Big Impact On Latest Steam Update ?

Posted by Zorro- at 14:01 29/4/2004.

Valve have updated Counter-Strike and Steam through their update engine once more.

04.08.04 (current release)
Changes/Additions:
  • Added solid radar option
  • Improved flashbangs (will not cancel out other flashbangs)
  • Updated German localized files
  • Improved game demo recording performance under Steam
  • Various other improvements

The first changes seem to be promising, so you tend to say "well done once again Valve".
However, amongst these 'various other improvements' there seems to be a controversial and disturbing one for the snipers amongst us, as Valve slowed down the zooming time after weapon switching of a sniper's most powerfull CS weapon: The AWP.
If no rollback on this is performed, it will be quite interesting to see how teams and top snipers like Johnny R will adjust to this change.

Also included in this new update are new crosshair (bigger) and headshot (skull with bullet) sprites, but if unwanted this can be apperently fixed here and here respectably.

Update:
Arbee at Gamers.nu reviewed all the latest gamechanges, click here to read this interesting article.

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Toomy
14:04 29/4/2004		 impact* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
14:05 29/4/2004		 awp is f***ing s*** now :~~~~ new crosshair is good though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
lor
14:05 29/4/2004		 urgh well done valve [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Skillich
14:05 29/4/2004		 Finally a radar i can see without having to look at the floor!!!!!!!!!

LAME @ AWP same way they ruined COD kinda

gg at demo recording fix & FB FIX, all in all wp Valve steam ownz dont denie it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
14:06 29/4/2004		 LOL the huge gay skull owns u!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sh4rp
14:07 29/4/2004		 the delay with the awp is so lame :(
most of the other updates are good [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
frantiC``
Shoot First Ask Later
14:07 29/4/2004		 wtf did they slow it down?? was fine how it is, now u cant do things like hold the back of B with AWP on d2 coz by time u zoomed in after u killed the 1st the T's r at your feet!

people gonna have to modify there positions in cs now :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
muffin
The Incarnate
14:08 29/4/2004		 Gives people only a few days to get used to these changes before lan. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Exocet
RemOte.uK
14:10 29/4/2004		 lol fez so true... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Genics
thed0n
14:11 29/4/2004		 whats the point in this, try fixing the 10000 bugs before you starting randomly changing the game. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Demo
conneXion
14:13 29/4/2004		 gret game 8( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kemistry
fluid element
14:16 29/4/2004		 feelin the new crosshairs

not too sure about the awp, sometimes its delayed sometimes it isnt?! i prefer the old style obviously but either way im not really arsed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Zorro-
Clan [F]
14:17 29/4/2004		 In case you love signing petitions : http://www.petitiononline.com/giveawp/petition.html [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Roar^
14:20 29/4/2004		 gee gee on the radar. not good on the awp though by the sounds of things, why do they always have to f*** *something* up to fix something else :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Shaw
14:21 29/4/2004		 yeh the awp delay seems random... very strange :x
id have fixed both by now if i didnt have to get used to gay new crosshairs for ukt in a couple days :( unless myers wants to be nice and let us fix them at lan mwahaha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
messeh
deliverance
14:21 29/4/2004		 valve causin the end of cs? looks that way :) have they changed this s*** in cs:cz ? i'd guess they havent n now this will start the transfer across for people who still give a f*** :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
frantiC``
Shoot First Ask Later
14:22 29/4/2004		 lol at the skull, its like valve have f*** all to do but think of s*** ways to imporve a game that dont really need improving. except the bugs that r annoying like enemys not looking at u when shooting at u. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poog
Disturbed
14:22 29/4/2004		 its not even that bad (the awp)
all it means is you cant switch weapons freely, the time between shots if u stayed zoomed is fine [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Roar^
14:25 29/4/2004		 <3 awp fast switch :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kraken
14:27 29/4/2004		 DoWn WiV vAlvE!

dOwN wIv sTeAm! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ObZ^
14:27 29/4/2004		 omg
its turned f***ing homosexual...
wot queer f*** put those skulls in...
f***ign ponces

cant reg for s*** either [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
BaL
14:30 29/4/2004		 Its fine, only thing i dislike is the HUGE skulls and the that bug where they look wrong way thats so lame :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ddd
14:31 29/4/2004		 they did it to cod and it sucked and now there doing it to cs....

yay for radar =]

one of the problems with it for cod was 56kers cudnt use snipers since the time to zoom was longer and it screwed the game engine up so they then fixed it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ObZ^
14:33 29/4/2004		 screw 56kers...

fags can foad [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Montaver
theb0g
14:38 29/4/2004		 The new crosshairs are sweet, makes every res "feel" like 640, but not look like a grainy blur.
The AWP delay is lame, but its what you come to expect from Valve. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
VespR
14:40 29/4/2004		 People will use auto sniper a lot more now. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SphericaL
14:42 29/4/2004		 time for DoZ's pro mode. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St00piD
Intrigue
14:43 29/4/2004		 can't even log in... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kraken
14:45 29/4/2004		 DoWn WiV vAlvE!
dOwN wIv sTeAm! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ablation
contact!
14:45 29/4/2004		 Are we gonna be able to use cl_radartype 1 at UKT? And I've decided I love the crosshair "bug", can use 1280x1024 and _see_ where I'm shooting ;DDD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ssj
14:46 29/4/2004		 i like the awp now, feels sharper again [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aunt
14:46 29/4/2004		 lol @ those skulls [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Alk0r
14:51 29/4/2004		 awp feels better apart from the laggy zoom so it sucks again the game has been a pilke of s*** for a while now and just gets worse cnat take it serious now. NERF arena here i come :D !!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
StrideR^
14:54 29/4/2004		 awm is much better for some reason lol ;)

and im gonna use the fix to sort out the gay big crosshairs ;) just pld a mix with it :Xxx [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ssj
15:08 29/4/2004		 when has steam not p***ed anyone off though, give it a few days and the kids who are spamming the WE WANT AWP BACK will calm down, and people will realise its for the better. Change keep cs good, otherwise it gets boring [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mOrt
15:10 29/4/2004		 yet again another lovely update :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MeatoN
15:13 29/4/2004		 expect to see people spamming "yo join #steamsucksmynanstits" amsg all over Qnet [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kelleh
15:14 29/4/2004		 how is it "for the better", though? at all? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dartt!
15:15 29/4/2004		 I agree ssj, I havn't had time to play the new version much but in the 4+ years I've played the updated have always kept the game fresh and complaints always die down soon enough.

People hate change is all... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Carb
theb0g
15:16 29/4/2004		 VALVe are truly the worst developers around. Did they actually consult ANY gamers on these changes? I mean out of the goodness of their hearts they asked if we wanted the money changes and everyone told them to f*** off. Now they go and do this with not even so much as a "What if we....what do you think?".

So much for listening to the community. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Demo
conneXion
15:20 29/4/2004		 I just hope shaGuar isn't behind this [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pikaflu
Kabuki Mono
15:21 29/4/2004		 This is ridiculous. The game is too far into it's life tro have the gameplay altered so dramatically. Valve are just showing that they really don't give a rats ass what the players think. If this isn't reverted i can see myself f***ing off to play joint operations, at least nova listen to their community. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ddd
15:24 29/4/2004		 new hs symbol = lol
new radar = mines still transparent
awm = not that bad
x-hair = i obviously dont play enough, is it differernt :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
richeh
#thkillerz
15:25 29/4/2004		 anyone got a direct link for the headshot sprites thing? cant stand new ones and sp.com is down so cant look at forum :(
and the crosshair one i spose while your at it

/me looks for another game to play i thinks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
meatyballs
15:25 29/4/2004		 why, oh why, do they have to degrade the AWP every major update :( The AWP was fine, no one was complaining about it / there were no issues, so what prompts the to change it for the worse :( CS is becoming DOD! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sm[o][o]th
15:30 29/4/2004		 Sod it, I'm not playing CS until the next update, they changed a lot more things than they say, then don't even tell us (less obvious things like less blood now when yous shoot someone) not to mention the random lag I get now :'[

I wish they would consult the community on ideas before releasing them. I'm sure someone would have volunteered to make a better radar / headshot / zoom sprite. And I'm sure people would have wanted smaller crosshairs, and the AWP kept the same. Don't change the timing ffs that messes too many people up, just lower it to 5 ammo or summink :'[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TonyMontana
IEO
15:31 29/4/2004		 I just had a quick game, and I can't see any difference with the AWP? Has it been changed back already? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pikaflu
Kabuki Mono
15:31 29/4/2004		 KhAoS your DoD point is so true, dod was f***ed up the ass by valve, now cs is getting the same treatment. :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b0sH
twisted Reality
15:32 29/4/2004		 Still see no point what so ever in changing the HS icon, there was nothing wrong with it at all....... so they decide to replace it with a s***e one?
Why cant they work on the bugs that actually matter like the models looking the wrong way or ensuring that the demo bug is completely fixed rather than fix things that aint broken. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Beast0
unicon.cs
15:33 29/4/2004		 steam wont even let me login to see these fagnob changes. CHEAP AND WEAK [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked
Croydon
15:33 29/4/2004		 LOL, nice update!

All you have 2 do is just snipe like Rwa and not change weapon while doing it :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nx
Hub.cs
15:33 29/4/2004		 f*** me i wish i had the internet + a better then a 1.4cpu. OTHERWISE EVERYTHING IS DANDY! :D + my car is poop doh! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Carb
theb0g
15:33 29/4/2004		 The servers that don't seem any different will be the ones that have not been restarted/updated yet. As soon as they get restarted Steam will update them. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Negotiator
Clan ONE
15:34 29/4/2004		 didnt see any delay in awp, anyways hope it gets slower so stops the awp whores out there. cheap crosshair, cheap hs icon s***, i dont see the point

fb = good
crosshair = good, but if they gonna fix can they fix it with a nice colour other than BRIGHT GREEN UGLY!!

nego_whine 1 :Ppp [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked
Croydon
15:34 29/4/2004		 headshot icon is a bit, why does my bullet burn off there skin then headshot them.. anyone else have this bug? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked
Croydon
15:35 29/4/2004		 Nego if you buy NightVision you get a nice red crosshair! lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Negotiator
Clan ONE
15:35 29/4/2004		 oh yer and our server cant loud nuke??? it just shuts the server down. it could last nite

any1 eles have this problem? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sm[o][o]th
15:37 29/4/2004		 The server not being able to change map (and apparently crashing) mean it cant get thru to the steam servers to download the update fully. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
stabby
Virgins!
15:37 29/4/2004		 haha who wants pictures of skulls - if you want to see what gun a person has thats where developer 1 comes in :E [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pikaflu
Kabuki Mono
15:38 29/4/2004		 Another thing about steam. Whenever a big update comes out i cannot log on. Valve if you are going to make us use steam, at least spend the money to provide sufficient bandwidth for your userbase. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DooMeh
Lite
15:42 29/4/2004		 I didnt know Johnny Rhymm was that good with the awp ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Beast0
unicon.cs
15:43 29/4/2004		 deffo pika, its retarded, always have to wait a day or 2 to play cs after an reasonable update [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
benneh``
15:49 29/4/2004		 looks like valve are still trying to make the game pretty for all the innocent rejects in the cs community wd. One day they might take us into account [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tazzle
15:50 29/4/2004		 anyone notice you can't break box outside on nuke by window anymore? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Orrill
15:51 29/4/2004		 Whining b******s...STFU! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
RaBB
15:52 29/4/2004		 STFU Orrill you tardinal Harris. Its all s***, glad I dont use awp HAHAHAHAHAHA UL MEIGHTS UN-f***ING-LUCKY [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rf
team-X
15:53 29/4/2004		 and we are different? ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Alk0r
15:54 29/4/2004		 cs sucks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tazzle
15:56 29/4/2004		 table, breakable box at ramp not breakable anymore, floating fixed too :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pikaflu
Kabuki Mono
15:58 29/4/2004		 Imaginary press statement from valve.

"Today Valve software has confirmed it's policy of alienating it's customers. After our brilliant decision to delay HL2 twice, we have now decided to alter core aspects of our most popular product, the online shooter counter-strike. By doing this we are hoping to push faithful players over to products from our rivals such as id, novalogic and epic games. Valve would like to take this convey the following message to the CS community.

"We have no idea how to run a succesfull business. We had a stroke of luck when we created half-life which we know is good, we then abused this success to buy the rights to CS so that we could cruely annoy the players of this fine game. On a lighter note please buy half-life 2 because it rocks." [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Magic^
15:59 29/4/2004		 stop whining [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
16:03 29/4/2004		 you're whining yourself, let people express their opinions [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poog
Disturbed
16:05 29/4/2004		 ye as tazzle says all that was once breakable seems to not be anymore, only vents etc [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lord Fondlemaid
16:06 29/4/2004		 I can't stand the new cross hairs, I play at a high res (1280 x 960) specifically so I get small cross hairs. Now it look like I'm playing at 640, and I can fit the entire Royal Marines Marching Band in them. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sm[o][o]th
16:11 29/4/2004		 #bring.awp.back <--- roffle [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
16:14 29/4/2004		 none of my f***ing demos work anymore [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Beast0
unicon.cs
16:20 29/4/2004		 am i the only one who cant login to steam and update? seems every git on here has updated [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tazzle
16:21 29/4/2004		 On cobble the ct's spawns seem to be altered, T's can now spawn on the bridge above the old T spawn, there's more crates in bombsite b, and more crates in main area of t side, lighting changed too, etc. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
adren
16:21 29/4/2004		 i guess you wont be able to use custom sprites at lans etc so it be better off to stick with defaults surely? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
eXp
16:25 29/4/2004		 picture of the new radar here, and the new scoreboard too. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]

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