Steam@LAN

Posted by Velta at 13:15 30/9/2003.

Two days ago Recon of CyberXGaming posted an email he received in regards to Steam on LAN at GotFrag. Here is what it said:

Valve is offering a Steam games installation DVD-ROM for Cyber Cafe managers. If you manage a gaming venue and you'd like to receive the disk, email us at cafe@valvesoftware.com. If you're one of the cafe managers who has already written to us requesting this DVD, rest assured that your email has been received and you will soon receive the disk. They are still being manufactured, and will be sent out as soon as they are finished. Very soon, we will post more detailed information for Cyber Cafe managers about the official Valve Cyber Cafe Program, including information on pricing (hint: $10 per computer per month & you don't have to buy the retail software), technical instructions for setting up Steam in cafes, security info, etc.

Obviously quite a costly solution. The question remains as to how the LANs taking place without a Internet connection will work.

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BelleH
Rush!
13:22 30/9/2003
about time [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:25 30/9/2003
what a shambles :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
13:28 30/9/2003
Anything for money [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
13:32 30/9/2003
Thats hilerious. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
13:33 30/9/2003
FFS i'm so queered off by valve its untrue. I regularly have little mini-lans with a group of friends and CS was obviously one of the popular games to play. Notice that? Past tense. WAS.

When did Cliffe and co. become part of the "omg just can't make enough money" brigade? You'd have thought they might've been satisfied with how well they've done out of CS in the last few years considering it only started off as a bit of fun?

Money-grabbing f***in w**kers [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brutal
The Next Generation
13:37 30/9/2003
Money grabbing?

They have recieved f*** all for Counter Strike, save for the relatively paltry sum they got for CS retail [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
13:39 30/9/2003
So you think they've spent the last 5 years or so watching CS get as big as it has and they've not made any money out of it or seen any kind of benefits?

Nice world you live in, not many sharp edges are there? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gilga
13:44 30/9/2003
lan centres always had to pay extra to use the game anyway this dont seem any different. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
13:44 30/9/2003
I could write an essay on this, just cba.

Valve = sucks. Give us back LAN play u f***s. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
13:45 30/9/2003
valve own the rights to cs, hence its gone all f***ed up. cliffe and gooseman no longer help code it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
13:50 30/9/2003
wudnt surprise me if lan tournaments stuck to using 1.5. id be quite happy to stick with 1.5, maybe just moving the new maps over like aztec inferno and cobble. this steam crap is just utter bs, that wud mean the it centre in northampton wud have to pay $400 a month to have 1.6 installed on the computers [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brutal
The Next Generation
13:55 30/9/2003
From Valves stand point, is that such a bad thing? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
14:02 30/9/2003
why do the IT centre need it they have a net connection? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:08 30/9/2003
Velta you b****** :P Totally ripped off my column! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
14:09 30/9/2003
Ripped off schroet.com more like :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:09 30/9/2003
^^ = http://www.ukterrorist.co.uk/columns/view.php?id=396 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:10 30/9/2003
oh balls. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:10 30/9/2003
oh balls. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:11 30/9/2003
fs, Velta can you clean this mess up? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
14:11 30/9/2003
fs, what about as valar says small lans with friends or office lans or whatever? f*** this noise. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
14:21 30/9/2003
pld acron^. pro :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
14:32 30/9/2003
and so it is upon us. CS becomes pay to play.

Pricks@Valve.

f*** it, im sure there is some way to burn the LAN version onto another disk, and crack it. UNLUCKY VALVE, KEEP TRYING! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
14:33 30/9/2003
o/ he even copied my title [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KungFu
14:42 30/9/2003
1.6! for UKT :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
14:43 30/9/2003
Honestly acron, i didnt even realise you posted a column, i dont check them for a start :-) I got it from schroet.com and 'Steam@LAN' founded like a fitting title. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
14:49 30/9/2003
founded like a fitting title

nasty lifp u got there. u fhould go fee a doctor :E [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
14:54 30/9/2003
f is like right next to s, and im fired. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
15:33 30/9/2003
u not got a D on your keyboard then? or juft uber fat fingerf? :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
15:48 30/9/2003
Nah im just retarded :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
15:58 30/9/2003
/me throws velta a crayon [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
16:24 30/9/2003
OK, maybe I'm being thick, but are they not saying you can either have steam@LAN by either:

Buying seperate copies of the game (1:1 or 1:6 I dunno),
or,
Paying $10 a month and getting unlimited copies.

What's wrong with that? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
16:31 30/9/2003
$10 per computer per month & you don't have to buy the retail software

howd u get $10 for unlimited copies from that? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
16:33 30/9/2003
Looks a lot like the post on the steampowered.com website. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
16:35 30/9/2003
whoops, scrap the unlimited copies form that, me being thick there. :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
16:36 30/9/2003
But my point still stands.

It seems you either buy the game on its own for each comp, or pay $10 a month for each one. Doesn't seem much of a deal to me, but still, it's a deal. :s [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
16:38 30/9/2003
grom i don't see any of that as a problem, just download steam on each of the pc's that you want to use to play your office/mini-lan on? seeing as either of those aren't "gaming venue's".

netcafe managers have to pay for 1 copy of half life per pc as it is at the moment, and if this is for JUST steam (inc with steam is cs/dod/tfc/hl2/future steam supported games) then it'll turn out a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run don't you think... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
16:56 30/9/2003
the main problem is firewall/connectivity issues for Steam. It's technically not possible for a lot of places (including ourselves) to download steam onto all pcs and also handle the authentication stuff as well. 1 download of 400MB is acceptable but when you need ~30 of them it gets a bit ridiculous...

handling the f***ed-up-at-the-best-of-times authentication is just impossible... It's a shame really. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Baby_Joker
16:58 30/9/2003
Some lan cafes are all ready on a tight budget and now we gotta pay 2 to 300 pounds a month for one game. I hope it falls apart or other companies will be sure to follow suit and if you think big deal charge the cafes, thie is just the begining. Think of it as another "beta test" before theyy do it for home users. They cant charge you to play cs but they can to use steam. I rekon about half the lan cafes will dump cs due to the charge, Other side is to keep it not pay and see how the hell they gonna police the 100+ cafes in the uk and the 1000's world wide.

Good Job Valve. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
17:04 30/9/2003
is it not possible to DL the HLDS then connect through console using 'slist' then 'connect 1'?

That afaik should let you play on lan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
t0m
17:09 30/9/2003
dl the steam_cs install file, like 300mb install it on each pc then small update surely not a problem :o) :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
acron^
Sector7G
17:34 30/9/2003
If the LAN has a net connection then it's fine. If it doesn't it's gonna have to shell out or stick to 1.5. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
t0m
17:52 30/9/2003
dont most netcafes have inet D: and if some mates are gunna lan surely they will do it at sum1s house,can see a problem for lans like uprising which to my knowledge dont have inet =:-[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Abysmal
17:59 30/9/2003
Oh my god talk about a rip off. This is crap, there is so many lans at student unions i go to, where an internet connection isn't exactly on the agenda. Even still, I can see this totally ruining cybercafes, or at least increasing the prices by about 20% :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
18:17 30/9/2003
The $10 a month is for Steam and any future games released on it, so they pay $10 a month for every game thats gonna come out on Steam including HL2 etc.
The same thing is going to happen to all clients.

Also like ppl have said if the cafe has an inet connection then they can just do what clients do now, download the full Steam 700 and odd MB install.

It's not all about CS... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Baby_Joker
18:26 30/9/2003
Sie they want to charge cafes no matter what version they use. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
18:42 30/9/2003
Can u not read?

They will be charged $10 a month for every single game that is and will come out on Steam, CS, TFC, DOD, Half-Life 2 and whatever future titles that appear etc... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
18:45 30/9/2003
The same thing will happen with us, we can either go and buy HL2 and any other future games from the shop or pay $10 a month for HL2, CS2 and future games to come. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
18:51 30/9/2003
sie where's the credit?! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
18:57 30/9/2003
www.steampowered.com :D

oh and Toomy pointed this out aswell :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
biffster
2seXeh 2perfoRm
19:00 30/9/2003
then it will be $12, then $20
then EA will do it, then ....
then EVERYONE will be paying
then everyone will be paying $100 or whatever to play games..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Noah-
r4ngers
19:06 30/9/2003
So what about small mini lans with freinds etc?
this is utter bulls*** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
19:08 30/9/2003
All my 'friends' have cable so i couldn't give a s***! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
20:27 30/9/2003
a total joke. Lan Cafe's have already bought halflife, and if Valve want to make profit off CS, stop releasing updates, and release an entirely new game. pricks, pay to play is an absolute joke, and a scam. you wont catch me paying monthly to get crushed by some lamer on a public server.

f*** valve [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Baby_Joker
20:44 30/9/2003
Bingo rhyzz. Ive been in the lan cafe industry for 4 years and i have a copy of the lan version on its way ill do a little review to let you all know whats on it. If its works with lan cafes and they do make money your there next target. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
21:06 30/9/2003
lol rhyzz is a king, give him a little crown like keiju has [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SIE
Choke
21:20 30/9/2003
Some ppl are thick as f***, u gotta laugh. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
alpha
Da boss
Inspired Gaming
21:44 30/9/2003
Blah blah blah, typical "jump on the bandwagon" slagging off of Valve. I'll wait and see whether it's $10 per comp per game or just $10 per comp for steam, but even still that's cheaper than buying a copy of each game for every computer isn't it?

As for free mods, why shouldn't the makers get some money for the games if the LAN cafe's are making money off them? If they don't like it that can stick to CS 1.5.

Obviously there are still going to be problems for the cafes without 'net connections but with broadband so ubuiqutous these days those have got to be the minority. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Socks
Expert RMA'er
21:49 30/9/2003
erm...i agree with alpha, pretty much. People like money and they'll do whatever they can to get it :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Alk^
23:09 30/9/2003
ROFL scamming c***s !!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
duc
digital heresy
14:14 1/10/2003
What makes me laugh is 'all steam games' thats basically halflife and halflife 2 when its out. As valve release a game aproximately once every 5 years it'll work out like buying a valve game every year rather than every 5, and thats assuming every cafe bough halflife 1 for £30. This 'fair deal' should start saving the cafe's money sometime around 2020. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Havors
16:08 1/10/2003
And so begins the death of counter strike. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Abysmal
03:48 5/10/2003
indeed. Its too much money for gamers, the same thing happened to the Q3 community (think i read that somewhere here - but its damn tru).

Most gamers only play casually and a subscription will put them off. Oh well, time to take up professional solitaire :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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