Gamespy: Top 10 reasons pro-gaming sucks

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	Ho3x 16:09 7/4/2003	errr lol wp to that article! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 16:10 7/4/2003	I actually agreed with virtually every point he made. I like games, I love competing with games, but he is right. As long as the games keep changing, there is no governing body and the rules are as he puts, "all over the place" it probably won't get any bigger than it is now. Plz don't hurt me C\|=P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Obz 16:14 7/4/2003	FACT. whoever wrote that article lost a CS match last night. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	duck. Online Multiplayer Gaming 16:16 7/4/2003	LOL [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	tpr` 16:17 7/4/2003	"Pro-gamers have no personality" - way to stereotype [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ho3x 16:20 7/4/2003	yeah , tbh that guy cant acsept the fact hes a noob and has to cus down "pro-gamers" or something? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gryff 16:23 7/4/2003	the articles full of s***. Darts is a sport. The Counsel for the defense rests. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	duck. Online Multiplayer Gaming 16:23 7/4/2003	LOL [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 16:24 7/4/2003	if I had to come up with a list of reasons that the author is an idiot I'd have a lot more than 10 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 16:31 7/4/2003	lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gryff 16:33 7/4/2003	ok heres a point by point blowaway. 10. omg CS isnt like hockey/football i cant win by beating people up k thx /me points to darts. 9. odd how quite a lot of people watched CPL finals on HLTV then. 8. CS has been around for several years, and they wont change it apart from tweaking the engine with new versions like CS. CS will never die :-] 7. Online Leagues dont work? f*** me. /me looks at CAL, Eurocup, and even P2P leagues like BWCSL and Jolt. 6. Pro-Gamers have no personality? Really? How many has this 'tard interviewed or lived with for a few weeks to find this out. Just stereotyping geeks further. 5. No mainstream appeal. Sorry so lets shut down all the non-mainstream music genres and lock people up for trainspotting. 4. Rules arn't consistent? How many sports were split on rules during their formation. Rugby league and rugby union anyone? Football and American football? 3. Too many leagues? How many people follow sub-conference level football? how many people play in sunday club leagues. Once again theres probably more football leagues than online leagues and more people playing CS at anyone time. To conclude football sucks and will die shortly. Its peaked. Or possibly he's talking BOLLOCKX. 2. Pro-Gamers are too serious. huh? /me thinks back to some of the insane stuff seen at lans. They call people n00bs? Has this person been reading UKT comments to make this conclusion? or has he just played 30 minutes on your average CS public server. and most importantly apparently... Its meant to be fun. It is fun. Does anyone who spends hours practicing their proffession such as a golfer etc not find it fun? Each to their own? Live and let Live? To conclude. Your wasting my precious air. Please drown in a puddle of mucus. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 16:33 7/4/2003	Id have to agree with pretty much everything he says, bar the personality bit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Anisty 16:50 7/4/2003	i would have to say that gryff's article is much better. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	acron^ Sector7G 17:11 7/4/2003	You tell em Gryff! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	phonics 17:12 7/4/2003	in general the guy is right but his article is s***, bitter and miss-informed. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	OverlordRob Asylum.uk 17:14 7/4/2003	Not a spectator sport? Only cos until now it hasnt had the support to. HLTV CPL Winter final had 13000 spectators....thats the same as a division 1 football match In a few years time theyll be laods more support for spectating - people love it I jsut think he wanted to be flamed for being controversial [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	phonics 17:15 7/4/2003	overlord a realistic comparison would be the billions of peopel who tune in for the world cup. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	maraschino 17:16 7/4/2003	who actually uses gayspy anyway all the peeps on aol? :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Obz 17:16 7/4/2003	a kinda agree CS is a bit dull to watch... but q3 team / 1v1 is excellent. I doubt CS will be that game that lifts pro gaming.. but something will.. and it will be huge. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	R4nCiD 17:19 7/4/2003	If only what gryff said was true. ul. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Mew ClanNEW 17:21 7/4/2003	true'est words iv ever read. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 17:27 7/4/2003	i bet the guy who wrote it has fun in the uk2 league anyway [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ara 17:37 7/4/2003	GRyff for president [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ara 17:37 7/4/2003	ohh and btw, if it wouldnt be fun, ppl would quit? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	OverlordRob Asylum.uk 17:50 7/4/2003	phnoics u deserve a medal u said overlord and not overload like evryone else :) i know its not same size as world cup but then again football is most watched sport in the world...my point was gaming spectating is just taking off and its not true no1 watches it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 17:53 7/4/2003	it was about 10000 or something watched CPL winter final, [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Az RemOte.uK 18:02 7/4/2003	spot on....... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ND 18:02 7/4/2003	was 30k [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Scam 18:14 7/4/2003	The guy makes some good points, but his arguments for them are pitiful; ''Why watch other people play a game when you can just do the exact same thing yourself? '' 'Cos that doesnt apply to... hmn... EVERY SINGLE SPORT... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	sU Warped Reality 18:17 7/4/2003	well when u compare it to chess what 'sport' would you rather watch? As for the fun point of view, whats going to give u a bigger buzz, taking your opponents queen, or taking out 3 players on you tod in a semi final? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Krispy 18:22 7/4/2003	gryff is win o/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FuSe 18:31 7/4/2003	I think he's largely right about pro-gaming being in pointless in his "opinion". However he might think differently if he was a top CS or Quake player winning tournaments and generally having a laugh. i think he's right about appeal - cs will never appeal to as many people as football for example - i don't think, for various reasons. People who enjoy chess might say that taking three players out would be less enjoyable? As for the online leagues example. I think they work but as he points out - they will never be as "fair" as say a football league. Look at the controversy over certain clanbase nations matches etc. "Serious" Gaming will always be a niche market, more people take football seriously than any other sport or game because it is easy to learn, fun to play and can be played virtually anywhere. Games are released constantly and are constantly being bettered - they may retain some of their community, but overall less people play. "I think he's right about pro-gaming being in pointless in his "opinion". However he might think differently if he was a top CS or Quake player winning tournaments and generally having a laugh. However i think he's right about appeal - cs will never appeal to as many people as say football i don't think, for various reasons. With CS being the exception. Far less people see the point in taking gaming seriously purely because it requires a computer, often to be anti-social and it is virtual. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FuSe 18:36 7/4/2003	lol nice messed up comment [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 18:54 7/4/2003	Sorry have to agree with alot of his points. 30k watched the CPL finals?? Ofcourse we are talking world wide here, as the teams were from all over the world. 30k turn out to watch an average footy team. get over it, its a niche activity, participated by a small community in general and thats y u'll never have the 'pro-gaming' that u so desperately want/need. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 18:58 7/4/2003	that X-Fire that used to be on TV was good [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	StriKeN unicon.cs 18:59 7/4/2003	his number 1 point about playing NOT being fun is stupid the fun is in the competition!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 19:17 7/4/2003	get over it, its a niche activity, participated by a small community in general and thats y u'll never have the 'pro-gaming' that u so desperately want/need. everyone else has got over it, no one ever expected it to be the next "football" or anywhere near, its just llamas like this guy and u who are still caught up in the "l33ts" argument which died out 2 years ago when everyone else grew up that fail to see and try to spark up old flames that no one cares about anymore :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	gaz eNvy! 20:24 7/4/2003	go gryff go [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fez 09:08 8/4/2003	"The number of simultaneous connections on the NetFire HLTV servers peaked at 29,877, a world record according to Valve Software." just to clear that one up ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St James 09:23 8/4/2003	That article was really funny, mainly criticising the fact that pro gaming does not have a wide appeal (hey, how long has it been going, 2-5 years?) and that it's not really a sport (talk about chess) or rules changing (give it some maturity, besides formula one sees a lot of changes every year). Anyway, i think that article was written for fun (see the images ;) and the last point made, if not totally silly, proves it : pro-gaming is no fun, of course not, it's pro too!... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 12:06 8/4/2003	So Keith, how come we have posts here that simply reply to him being s* at the game or a noob and that's his whole reason for posting his opinions. It's typical of UK CS scene to reply to anybodies opinion by saying they are s* and a noob thats why they say what they say. So the 1337 pricks are still out there. Read peoples comments before you post about the leetist attitude being gone. Alot of your post have been pro 'pro-gaming', so don't be a hypocite aswell as a tit. As for you calling me a llama, s* b*h I'd have thought you'd know better. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 12:53 8/4/2003	lol jay u ever heard of something called a joke, or arent people allowed to say them in hubcapstealingland coz all the trolls get insulted :x and yes i have made some "pro pro-gaming" posts before but like i said no one actually cares anymore they just play the game for what it is [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 12:59 8/4/2003	Keith, your comment had no hint of sarcasim or wit in it, unlike your hubcapstealingland reply which clearly implies your jestful intent. Your other post was a seriously written point, however flawed. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 16:02 8/4/2003	so i guess the :x on the end was a kiss of death [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	disty 00:43 9/4/2003	ok i may be wanderign away from the point of this all but who else feels Pac-Man World Champion Billy Mitchell is the son of satan? dont believe me? take another look at that pic..... chilling :E [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	disty 00:45 9/4/2003	his eyes glow ffs [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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