eSport-pro: Expanding Further

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	akujii0r Infinity-eSports 23:24 23/11/2002	just had too [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	WaR 00:07 24/11/2002	2 e z for Akujii ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 00:08 24/11/2002	I need to know how to wipe my arse correctly, could esport pro write some form of paper for this.. it would help me greatly.. Thanks [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Aardvark theb0g 00:34 24/11/2002	Paul, when I tell you it makes you look more professional if you spell it right, I MEAN IT! :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Paul 00:36 24/11/2002	I had enough tbh. Geordie...u have ur mome for that. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Culexus^ 00:41 24/11/2002	I don't get it, what does Paul get out of all of this? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Aardvark theb0g 00:45 24/11/2002	Don't put this one in the book yet, but I think I made paul cry :o I... I sowwy ;( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fox ClanNEW 00:50 24/11/2002	gl Paul, doing a good job so far [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shotti theb0g 00:56 24/11/2002	he gets a percentage of the sponsorship deal ye? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 01:02 24/11/2002	eSport Pro, not in conjunction with www.dictionary.com [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 01:02 24/11/2002	also: powerpoint, rofl [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 01:06 24/11/2002	Powerpoint presentation: watch some leet0r fragzzzzz j00 fagzzz! BANG THATS TEH HEADSHOTZOR. PLZ GIVE GENURUSLEH TO MT CLAN! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 01:46 24/11/2002	"Geordie...u have ur mome for that." You spell like a w1nn4r. And actually saying "ur mom" on UKT to the actual CS community you're trying to impress is about the most retarded thing I've seen on here for a long time. Even Culexus insults better than "ur mom" [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Alvin` 02:49 24/11/2002	Where are the mousemats? Your full of s*** Paul. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Scara North & South 03:36 24/11/2002	Disturbed havent recieved anything yet..... i wonder why nick..... Al theyre waiting for the packs i was skanked because my breasts werent big enough a.k.a Jay :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 03:51 24/11/2002	Disturbed dealt with sponsorship without eSports pro and managed to get 2 mousepad sponsors, servers, webpage, bouncers and probably more I've forgotten. They actually got their goods too. All this without an eSport pro model website, letters, powerpoint presentations. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 03:53 24/11/2002	Thats correct DoZ, so dont look silly now scara :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 03:57 24/11/2002	"Disturbed havent recieved anything yet..... i wonder why nick....." We were never eSport Pro? We did it our own way and got loads of sponsored stuff, so ul with your facetious and totally incorrect statement. The whole press release is just an admission of failure. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 03:57 24/11/2002	Well, they hadn't got the website when I left. But the rest had arrived ;-) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 04:00 24/11/2002	COUGH final stages of development, some asp bugs need ironing out [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	akujii0r Infinity-eSports 06:45 24/11/2002	word 2 e z [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	sky\ 10:44 24/11/2002	Can someone please teach Paul how to spell, he looks oh so professional making mistakes all the time :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zu1u 10:46 24/11/2002	still havent recieved a thing yet from esport-pro :/ why expand further gaining more clans to sponsor when some of the silver/bronze clans havent recieved anything? apart from co2 webspace from one of your staff members ( Drake ) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 10:49 24/11/2002	another field day for dist to show why they're so loved [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 11:21 24/11/2002	?nornE [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Cloud 11:29 24/11/2002	CS is not that lucrative a business yet, especially for the bronze/silver supported teams. So its bound to be hard to find any support for them. They are expanding to get a large hold on the CS community while they have no competition. Although they definatly do need competition to make the business side of cs better in general. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 11:44 24/11/2002	Pauls waistline is also expanding further ... exponentially [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zu1u 11:55 24/11/2002	But wasnt esport-pro's goal to get sponsorship for all teams involved? 'We coordinate all travel and accommodation for our clients to facilitate their participation in games and competitions. In conjunction with our travel agency partners, we always seek the best travel scenario for the money' We went to wcg in London, not a thing from esport-pro, thanks to Dom at vga we gained our money expenses back [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Paul 12:17 24/11/2002	Hey ur all doin a great job. Zu1u...what team are you? Did you ask for help at all..NO you didn't. u comment on spelling....never seen much spelling done on the web, email or IRC!! Comment all you like....u got something to say com say it to me...I'm always in esp channell otherwise keep ur snide, childish and non constructive comments in the gutter with the other s*, where they belong. many of the people making s* comments will never have tried to build something that has no blueprints. I hope you have the guts and the oppertunity one day and you may appreciate how hard it is, but I don't think you ever will as you prob wont have the guts for it or the brains to get it off the ground. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	b33p 12:49 24/11/2002	Is paul the sort of professional that we can expect to help us in this emerging sport? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Paul 12:52 24/11/2002	well...u cought me on a bad day m8....well i can tell you one thing...it sure as fook wont be u. Just letting off a bit of steam.....u cant read above...come speak to me...nahhh...didn't think u would [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shotti theb0g 13:06 24/11/2002	paul if you get that worked up by just a couple of people criticizing your work theni dont think oyu should be representing a company as your sponsors wont take very kindly to seeing their 'PR' spokesperson insult the very people hes trying to take on board [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kronikal Anti-Climax 13:15 24/11/2002	"OMG Paul as if you're trying to help the UK CS Scene (!)" ...Maybe you should all just stfu and be thankful that he's helping you, if you want it, and just carry on with your lives if what Paul does doesn't help you, YOU CRETINS [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	b33p 13:21 24/11/2002	There are not very many who would do so much and ask for so little, be greatful you have paul rather than someone who would manipulate the community to his/her own benifit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shotti theb0g 13:26 24/11/2002	if he doesnt do it professionally then he shouldnt do it at all, as a businessman he should take an independant view of things. he should be aloof to insults made at him rather then shouting off petty insults that make him look bad and reflects badly on the company he is representing, [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Paul 13:29 24/11/2002	You are correct....I should not get soo upset. Lookly the Commercial Director of Plantronics does not read UKT, but would prob understand my frustration. I take so much stick and get little help. Maybe you could say that that is my own fault; you made ur bed, lie in it, and all that. But I spent my time (you have no idea how much so far, work out ave 127 msg's per day, endless sponsor emails and letters) and my money trying to help, I ask nothing and my only interest is that the teams have more oppertunities, sooner or later. I dont charge them anything. I'm just trying to bring a little structure to the e-sport scene, nothing more. Sorry i got a bit hacked off. Won't happen again. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kronikal Anti-Climax 13:42 24/11/2002	Maybe if some people would stop being so childish and provoking him, then it wouldn't have happened in the first place ... I'd like to see how one of you guys could last with constant abuse being thrown at you and your Business- [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gristy 13:51 24/11/2002	if nothing happens u guys moan. if something happens you moan if something nearly or is going to happen you guys moan. theres no need to moan u nubs [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Paul 13:51 24/11/2002	kronikal pls come say "Hi". You helped me stay sane this morning, thanks. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Culexus^ 13:59 24/11/2002	Why is everyone having a go at Paul when hes standing up for himself because everyone is being a s***head towards him and then you flame him for retaliating and saying its not professional, he's worked hard for you all and its all free, cut him some slack [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ManicTwiig Team56 14:05 24/11/2002	it's true though, too many selfish takers out there and not enuff helpful givers out there. like ffs come on, you aint being charged for the work paul does, no effort is being drained from you so why the f*** would u get worked up about not recieving world wide travel and your gold dust mousemats. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rav0r Croydon 14:11 24/11/2002	nits blawd [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 14:20 24/11/2002	"Comment all you like....u got something to say com say it to me..." We already did though, which is why we posted here not in alias? You could come to a LAN and I'll sit down with you and tell you what's wrong with your company as a whole if you like. You said be constructive. Something constructive: learn to spell and try actually looking like a professional businessman rather than someone more immature than 50% of the CS community and you might get somewhere. Not that I'll be doing this but how easy do you think it'd be for someone to screenshot this page/give it to a sponsor and show you being a kid when given some pretty LIGHT criticism? Is that good for 'eSports'? You haven't done the job for the community you promised, it's not hard to swallow your pride and admit it. You tried to do something that was impossible when launched, but the general idea was there, just needed concentrating further. But you haven't done everything for teams' best interests. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 14:24 24/11/2002	And the whole "Paul does work for you don't criticise him it's free" holds absolutely no water when it was PROMOTED as a free service for ALL clans to get some form of sponsorship. They chose which teams they wanted, the brackets, the amount to take onboard, so how is it the teams' fault if they moan for not getting what they were promised? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 14:36 24/11/2002	some1 call the fire brigade cuz nick is on fire! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Aardvark theb0g 14:41 24/11/2002	Paul, the reason everyone picks up on the spelling is because if this is what the presentation is like when press releases are posted to the CS community, is the standard reflected in the releases to potential sponsors? I don't give a damn how you spell on IRC, or even in communications with sponsored teams. But if the same frequent spelling and grammar errors that crop up in these press releases were seen my potential sponsors, its not the best image to put out is it? I've never once said anything against the basic principle of esport pro, but there are lots of little things that could so easily be improved on. Coming into #so19 and whining about how I'd tried to GIVE YOU A HEADS UP about something, for at LEAST the 4th time, does not impress me one bit. As for the travel arrangements thing, well as it stands SO19 won't be able to go to CPL as over half our team can't get transport. Now if anyone out there can help us out, please do so :E [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 14:43 24/11/2002	iron, he'll probably burn then, coz last I checked they're always on strike! No wait, we've got the GREEN GODDESSES! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 14:47 24/11/2002	hey nick if its so easy why dont you start a sponsorship company? Id love a new CPU or GFX card. Did you expect eSports-pro to give everybody whole new systems? free money? considering all these people do is sit on there arses and play a game i think theyve got a f*ing cheek to moan about what goods they are recieving!! If you've been promised something and it aint turned up yet then complain in private or ask there may be a perfectly good reason. Most of u whining cs dont deserve to be p**ed on never mind givin free stuff FOR NOTHING!!! no stfu and get back to being obnoxious little kids who play computer 'games'. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shotti theb0g 14:47 24/11/2002	lol let me merc aard :> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 14:47 24/11/2002	I think paul is getting some sort of message here guys...hes gonna break down in tears and realise that his life long entrepreneurial ambition is over. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 14:50 24/11/2002	I think you make stupid, unfunny, snide comments. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 14:52 24/11/2002	HEY IM JUST TRYING TO LIGTEHN THE MOOD, all you "pro" gamers getting so angry. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 14:53 24/11/2002	:o) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 15:10 24/11/2002	iron has a fathead. felt I had to contribute somewhat. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 15:11 24/11/2002	Errr did I miss something over the last few months ? What have esport-pro achieved ? Blagged some freebies off a sinking ship (Everglide) umm thanks I already have an Everglide ... and if I still played CS I'd get a func mat. Not many people go for Everglide mats these days ... preferring other mats that receive better reviews. Basically you've given away a lot of expensive coasters as I doubt many people will use them or that they actually benefit their gaming skills. Look at the recent Red Dawn tournament ... the prizes given to the (amateur/non-sponsored only clans) winners was amazing compared to what esports or any UK LAN's have to offer. I know I for one would rather be unsponsored and have a chance of winning a decent prize online than being sponsored and have to attend LAN's (usually costing yourselves money) knowing pretty much that you are not going to win anything (usually only top 3 will get a prize). It's not just the inconvenience of getting everyone to a LAN it's the fact that every LAN you go to is supposed to offer a fair and level playing field for all clans, when in fact every LAN I have been too this has not been the case. I think the problem is you've tried to spread yourself too thin (pardon the pun tubby). You should have just stuck to the top Clans/players like SK.swe, eol, HeatoN, pott1 etc. and f*** all the rest off. Learn to run before you can walk. Sort the wheat from the chaff (insert cliche here) etc. Hav if you could get that tongue any further up his hoop you'd be tickling his liver ffs. You done enough moaning at your 'free' trip to GDOC which you earned by 'sitting on your arse playing a game' so don't be hyopcritical. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 15:13 24/11/2002	shut the f*** up fat hands. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 15:15 24/11/2002	fella i wouldn't take that from iron. let im av it ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 15:18 24/11/2002	fat hands are needed for a fat c**k ... AV IT [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rav0r Croydon 15:23 24/11/2002	touch on that [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 15:23 24/11/2002	I was waiting for ur snide comment about me FELLA becoming a pass time of yours. when u get online and actually have a clue whats going on then have a go untill then keep ur remarks to yourself. moaning at gdoc?? gdoc was f***in class. you really are on another planet arnt u! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 15:35 24/11/2002	Hav you're a bell ... if you didn't keep putting your foot in your mouth by lying like a prick then I wouldn't have to keep correcting you. If I've got a comment I can say it to your face no problem there so stfu. Just don't come on here posting bs and licking Pauls anus when you're no better than the people you're slagging off, ... now f* off back to your N&S bhes sit down and be quiet. If you think I'm picking on you specfically you're wrong, however you spout the most s**, so therefore logically I have the most reason to pick on you. You got a problem with me come see me in work as you see me every day ... otherwise stop whining. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St_George g30rg3h UKTerrorist 15:36 24/11/2002	FELLA - in all fairness you don't seem to understand the point. Paul is doing very well helping a lot of the teams in the UK, so why not take a moment to respect the hard work he puts in. Secondly, i do believe we the large majority of us play the game for fun yes? So why come up with the attitude of "dont go to a LAN because we won't win". WHo cares, its the playing and socialising aspect of LANs which would appear to appeal to most. So drop the s***, give the man a bit of respect. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 15:37 24/11/2002	funny how you only say these thing to me on here! youve never said anything to my face id rather you did. stop being a prick. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 15:43 24/11/2002	Ummm Hav I have said to your face ... now if you want me to I can repeat tomorrow in work to YOUR FACE ... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 15:44 24/11/2002	arguing on the internet is like participating in the special olympics [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 15:46 24/11/2002	see everyone stopped [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FELLA 15:52 24/11/2002	Umm me and have talked and sorted it in IRC n00beh 'cos he knew I was gonna t**t him at work :o) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Havors 15:53 24/11/2002	yo couldnt t**t a wet paper back bag u big dummy! av it! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 15:54 24/11/2002	everyone loves a n00beh...well i do anyway [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zu1u 15:55 24/11/2002	I aint having a go in my early posts but i feel the same as some of the other people do who have posted. Is there anymore info about sponsorship packs from everglide? i tried your website but it hasnt been updated for some time now by your staff [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 15:55 24/11/2002	"hey nick if its so easy why dont you start a sponsorship company? Id love a new CPU or GFX card." And eSport Pro have gotten GFX cards and CPUs for whom, precisely? You said it's wrong to criticise them. What if you bought, let's say, a new bag of crisps that was advertised as p*y flavour, and you tasted them and it was in fact ck flavour. Now, would you return the crisps so you could eat some p*y and complain, or stay with your sty bag of ck and go "I respect you for making the crisps"? It's admirable that the company was started, and the ethos that got skewed over time, but every single clan that was signed up was promised sponsored kit in some form or another, and how many have received anything? And all this while they've been advertising and so on, so I could easily see why they're getting disgruntled for signing up to something they're not getting. People don't deserve free stuff, I think the whole concept of advertising is bollocks anyway, how many sales do this kind of think acheive? Probably f all. I don't even like the concept of pro gaming, so you're probably right when you say these clans don't deserve anything - they don't. But that, however, is not the point. The point is they signed up for a service that hasn't paid up. And that's why people are p*ed off. And his general attitude isn't that of a spokesperson for gaming as a whole, which is what he's trying to be. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	zu1u 15:55 24/11/2002	will b grateful for any info, if any :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 15:56 24/11/2002	Come speak to me in irc for info, zu1u. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	L0v3r 16:03 24/11/2002	It makes me so sick when I come on here sometimes, and people are just flaming each other and trying to get one over on someone else, is there really any need for the constant b***hing? I can't imagine what it would be like, if certain people who post (not just on this post) here got in a room together and were like this in real life, I think I'd probably want to be as far away as possible. None of this makes the CS community out to be anything special, because the reality of it is, that everyone wants to be holier than thou when they are fighting their points, but the fact is, none of you are, myself included. We all have our down points, we all have a past with mistakes we have made, none of us a perfect, but would it kill people to try and get along and help each other out "nicely". I am the kind of person, I hate when people fight or argue, show some love for each other guys, group hug and all that ;) please? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 16:05 24/11/2002	Yes but we're not pretending that we're the all-singing all-dancing saviour of the CS community. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Nick^ 16:06 24/11/2002	It's a proper bo I tell thee! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Grom^ 16:09 24/11/2002	looks like SCEE is a great place to work [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gristy 16:12 24/11/2002	Nick^ only because stuff doesnt get posted on ukterrorist for you to flame at doesnt mean that it does not happen dude. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	n00beh 16:13 24/11/2002	nick took part in the special olympics triathlon [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:14 24/11/2002	gold + certificate [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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