All About the Money

Posted by NoToRiOuS at 20:21 2/1/2004.

That's right folks, after Shaguar's article there has been much debate in the CS community about the current money situation. Many believe that for the game to keep on growing it must be a spectator friendly and let's face it, timing out 4-5 rounds per game is not the most riveting entertainment. As a result of the mass debate, the following email has been sent out:

There will be some changes to the Counter-Strike money system on the 14th of January that should address some of the issues raised here.

We're still working out the specifics, but the intention is to make the tactic of waiting for the round to end on the T side a disincentive.

We'll also change the round timer to shut off once the bomb has been planted on de_ maps.

Erik Johnson
Valve

Fingers crossed, touch wood and all that good luck stuff. Stay tuned for more information.

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Ripper
Rush!
20:22 2/1/2004
look down one news post ernie [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
20:22 2/1/2004
sounds good [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:23 2/1/2004
And he drove the fastest milk cart in the west
ERNIEEEEEEEE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
beLL
20:23 2/1/2004
took all that time to copy and paste? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
20:25 2/1/2004
beLLeNd
20:23, 2/1/2004 took all that time to copy and paste?

maybe he only just got to read it! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
beLL
20:26 2/1/2004
hsm u think of that won ur self or get some of ur sheep friends to help u? Wasn't just talking to him. Was talking to all the ukt staff. So how about u smk? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
funky
20:26 2/1/2004
wow ... hadnt heard that before [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
beLL
20:27 2/1/2004
one*** [ Score: -1, pointless | Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
20:27 2/1/2004
what? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
20:28 2/1/2004
ah i see your trying to say did i think of that one myself, yes actually :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
20:38 2/1/2004
Headshot^man guy, when your playing matches at a high level is CS still fun, or does it get annoying? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
20:41 2/1/2004
i think we can beat you, and you know it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ProdiGy
20:57 2/1/2004
Thanks ShaGuar [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
22:04 2/1/2004
Can we get shaguar to write about the stupid f***ing shield? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
22:08 2/1/2004
no shields in CoD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ObZ^
22:25 2/1/2004
so its going ahead then :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
FragMentor
22:34 2/1/2004
its all lies [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Samje
22:34 2/1/2004
Hardly going to make CS more spectator friendly. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
stabby
Virgins!
22:43 2/1/2004
well cs is really starting to get booring, im waiting for them to play 'The Sims' @ cpl. :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ObZ^
23:14 2/1/2004
haha stabby :>

gran turismo @ cpl imo - there is a game with real skill :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
23:17 2/1/2004
lol :>:> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N3M-
endeffect
23:25 2/1/2004
yeh lets all make a list of things to whine about and send them to Shaguar.

Funny thing is, this is the first sign of valve actually changing the game to help all the pro-gamers..

I say bring back jumping :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HeNdie
Void
23:29 2/1/2004
Whats so good about jumping around a map? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
23:48 2/1/2004
It's slipups like this that are giving UKCT the edge [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TT
Xtra
00:51 3/1/2004
agreed ukct > ukt [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
reddy
gameSlave
01:10 3/1/2004
bunny hopping [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Karborn
01:19 3/1/2004
if shag told them to jump off a cliff, what u reckon? . :< [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
funky
01:32 3/1/2004
LoL :> :< :> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NukleuZ
Black Death Warriors
02:27 3/1/2004
** [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Iain
11:10 3/1/2004
shag, please do an article about bringing back jumpy bomb planting, ty. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
11:32 3/1/2004
jumping wont make the game any better, in fact it was s*** when some guy would bunny hop his ass round the whole map before the other team had bought guns, prolly the 1.3 jumping and shooting would be nice, when the guns werent so random, but jumping was s***. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Beta
11:58 3/1/2004
who wudnt venom ? :D good old days of cs :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gst
theb0g
12:00 3/1/2004
Having to stand still whilst planting is bs like, because why would you stand still? It makes you a sitting duck. So bring back jumpy bomb planting!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
12:13 3/1/2004
hahah he said "mass debate" and "touch wood". funniest news item ever. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
conspiracy
12:16 3/1/2004
I agree with the g to the s to the t, gst. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gst
theb0g
12:23 3/1/2004
o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
12:54 3/1/2004
i like to touch wood, gives me horn [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gst
theb0g
12:56 3/1/2004
oh dear. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
13:25 3/1/2004
bring back:

fast walking from beta 6
jumping from beta 7
mp5 from beta 6
old style pistol accuracy
being able to shoot while defusing
unzoomed awp shooting straight(ish)

and punish the side that camps if theyre supposed to be on the offensive.

oh and as an idea for a de_ map, the cts should be able to win if they can pick up the bomb and deliver it to a certain point to win the round [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
13:31 3/1/2004
I think it's because their title is now Continuous threat from other games ... They dont want to be Ditched or anything. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:34 3/1/2004
I'm downloading Continuous other Ditched right now [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Noah-
r4ngers
13:41 3/1/2004
bring back cs fun :| its so boring now :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eeon
twisted Reality
13:44 3/1/2004
Valar - thats capture the "flag" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
13:45 3/1/2004
cod's a decent game, but the gun accuracy is more random than cs, which is what people moan about. So its not much different, ive only played a few mix games but it feels a lot slower and ppl can just start with snipers whenever they want, without needing to earn the cash. Im not bad at the game but as i said im new so feel free to ignore my opinion :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:46 3/1/2004
more random than cs lol, thats gotta suck surely [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
conspiracy
15:11 3/1/2004
it sure does Smittens. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sinth
15:12 3/1/2004
it sure does Smittens. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
conspiracy
15:13 3/1/2004
eheh! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gst
theb0g
15:40 3/1/2004
Valar you been smoking again? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
15:40 3/1/2004
its awesome that valve are listening to the gamers for once :D
congrats to shag, the big bear [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sinth
15:49 3/1/2004
dont get too excited ur dick mite end up in a twist [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
16:02 3/1/2004
heheheh u said "dick mite" hehehehe [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Greendude
16:09 3/1/2004
I must be wierd, I actually like the pro eco camps. Sure it takes ages but you also know that the CT side will push forward and then you'll get action. Either someone with a colt will take out the entire ecoing team or an innovative eco will allow the ts to actually win the round. I looked forward to events like CPL to see what ecos Team9 and eoL had come up with. Pity I seem to be the only one.

On an unrelated note, every single fps game should be based on aim...recoil is what makes cs s***. Point the crosshair at the target and it should hit. When you take that out of a game it becomes random. And that problem is worse in CoD than in CS. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil``
16:39 3/1/2004
[Sarcasm]Bring back 5.2! maybe shag should do a post about how everything was better then[/Sarcasm]

In turth the netcode would work 10 times better now on LAN / Decent connections cos nobody plays on 56k anymore with the advent of Steam. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w00kie
euthanasia
16:43 3/1/2004
i'm Sure Erik Johnson has been on the battlefield a long time and knows exactly the right ammount of recoil to put into the game!!!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
funky
16:51 3/1/2004
i dont see how people can moan... if people adapt right to these changes NOTHING can be worse, ie. 2 minute round time and the whole bomb timer eliminating round timer point is irrelevant... games will be shorter. you cant expect them to change everything suddenly you should be happy theyre finally listening to the competetive community [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w00kie
euthanasia
16:53 3/1/2004
do you use ghd mate? :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Par
suiGeneris
18:47 3/1/2004
olololl yea dudez letz bring back:

as_highrise from 7.1
The skincheat from 6.6
The old f*cking awful netcode
The inability to see other people's scores from 5.1

Jesus christ, I'm sick of seeing these posts. People have this retarded notion that bringing back all the stupid eccentricities of whatever their favourite version of CS was will bring back a return to some sort of SUPER HI-SKILL MEGA version of CS, when in actual fact it's just a completely misguided theory put forward by a few pro players who are p***ed off that everyone has caught up with them. The main driving force behind everyone pining for features that were scrapped in CS long ago is nostalgia, if they had to play with them again they'd soon find a lot to moan about. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tazzle
18:50 3/1/2004
Colt with zoom!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
18:51 3/1/2004
new netcode IS s*** and random tho!

but 1.6 aint too shabby [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
`NWA
19:07 3/1/2004
new netcode doesn't work as noone can work out the right rates for their connection and use "CPL Rates / interp!" Which were designed for 1.5 on LAN. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sinth
19:07 3/1/2004
deagle with zoom !! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
N3M-
endeffect
19:17 3/1/2004
why change a already good game tbh...

in 1.3 i honestly didnt see anyone who thought "man i cant wait for the next update"

really their was absolutely no reason to tinker with the recoil of the guns for one and when you see that the game has been changed to cater for clan wars then why was jumping,planting,maps and weapons changed??? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ablation
contact!
19:22 3/1/2004
It seems that Valve are unable to patch aspects of CS that ppl agree are borked/inadequte (e.g. earlier versions of hitboxes, HLTV etc) without needing to alter things that no one has complained about at the same time. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kuki
19:28 3/1/2004
in the past there was a greater sense of community, things werent taken so serious- like whoever said you played 'friendlys' and big 10v10 p*** abouts...
also people say they prefer the old versions as they had fun back then, now theyre still playing just cos alot of em dont want to let go. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dh
19:45 3/1/2004
all they need to do is stop the cheating c***s, seriously. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
19:46 3/1/2004
seriously? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar
19:50 3/1/2004
seriously [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sinth
19:52 3/1/2004
hes dead serious [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
20:03 3/1/2004
new netcode doesn't work as noone can work out the right rates for their connection

so there's actually no change from 1.5 at all then [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Noah-
r4ngers
20:55 3/1/2004
The reason people prefer the older versions is because they were MUCH more fun,

Me and m8s pld 1.3 on lan recently, MAN IT WAS SO COOOOLDASDKASDLAIHDIWQHDKADASDhqwikdhn ad/me drools [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Noah-
r4ngers
20:55 3/1/2004
Cheats cheats everywhere ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
conspiracy
22:51 3/1/2004
i like you, do you like me? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dL
Atari.Crew
00:27 4/1/2004
If 1.6 hit people when you aimed at them or at least didn't hit them when you don't aim at them then probs would be better but who gives a s***.

Nothings gonna happen unless someone who investors... invest *shock* in then nothings gonna happen... adapt! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
03:22 4/1/2004
Some pro should buy valve and sort out taht s*** company [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Domje
03:52 4/1/2004
you should go and suck 'some pros' dick then set your ugly denmark head up on a guillotene infront your town hall. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MaCcA^
04:26 4/1/2004
i played 1.3 the other day, whacked ex_interp 0.05 on and i didnt miss a headshot... was quite amusing, lets just say im glad thats no longer existant. :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TT
Xtra
13:37 4/1/2004
cfger! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sinth
13:40 4/1/2004
finally a known cfger admits [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
XpoMa
19:56 4/1/2004
At last! Developers heard gamers! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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