CAL - Riot shield allowed

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	rich 22:10 3/11/2003	new [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil 22:11 3/11/2003	The 'Tactical Shield' could open up a whole new world of tactcs. No. It makes the game a joke... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 22:15 3/11/2003	comedy! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	t0x Void 22:16 3/11/2003	yes can use my shield rush at last :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Shael 22:19 3/11/2003	Amazing Comparison [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TecwynWhittock 22:19 3/11/2003	Don't see what the prob is, at its worst it'll be like NV. But there's a possibility that inventive teams will use it somehow. CS will die if they leave it alone, adding new things breaths new life into it. Instead of slagging it off, come up with a better idea. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ProdiGy 22:21 3/11/2003	trusts the americans... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Flavas Game Dimension Online 22:22 3/11/2003	Shield can be used in tactics to your advantage so much its unreal, will be fun seeing what tactics people can come up with :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SFAL^Sarge Viva la! 22:32 3/11/2003	hope CPL doesnt follow suit... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gilga 22:34 3/11/2003	u cant compare night vision and a shield, 1 makes u see in the dark, 1 makes u invincible. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Shaw 22:37 3/11/2003	cpl play is not useing it... it wont be used this season for cal play offs at all due to the fact that even if one team does wanna use it... the other team will say we dont and therefore it wont be used... lets face it... whos gonna risk a playoff game on a shield :x remember cal aint the same as our online leagues people judge a lot by it :) ;/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	N3M- endeffect 22:42 3/11/2003	lol imagine.. u got like prodigy + 5 shields :P or 2 shields at b tunnel, noone is going b ;) Itll also be good for spotting and ppl can now scout closer... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 22:46 3/11/2003	The shield will be legal during CPL match play. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ObZ^ 22:47 3/11/2003	gilga has it in 1 ! tbh if i was playing a serious game and 5 ppl rushed me with shields, wouldnt be best happy ;/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ddd 22:48 3/11/2003	only 2200 for godmode, how much for noclip? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 23:08 3/11/2003	BALLS to that :\| [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ensnare Atari.Crew 23:10 3/11/2003	hmmm really hope uk leagues and ladders dont decide to allowed them now :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Sugar fibre 23:10 3/11/2003	stupid americans [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Necroboy fightclubclan 23:13 3/11/2003	I still think the shield is f***ed. Its really random whether you hit the person or the shield, especially when they reload/run/have thier gun out. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	duck. Online Multiplayer Gaming 23:15 3/11/2003	=[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	amarc 23:18 3/11/2003	Reminds me of the 1.3 --> 1.4 controversy! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 23:23 3/11/2003	CS will die if they leave it alone, adding new things breaths new life into it. wrong wrong and wrong [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Weebull 23:36 3/11/2003	Someone like SK is gonna come along to the next CPL and wipe the floor with everyone, cos they've used the sheild in their tactics. Then suddenly, it'll be "Oh, isn't the shield great!" [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Vertakill 23:41 3/11/2003	No, not likely Weebull [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	vac 23:50 3/11/2003	I blame myers :\| [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	FragMentor 00:03 4/11/2003	harriman @ buys shield @ CPL semi-final? :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	pie Black Death Warriors 00:18 4/11/2003	=[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St00piD Intrigue 00:19 4/11/2003	it says the shield is legal, not that it has to be used. clans could always just agree not to use it (please) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-Naz- fightclubclan 00:28 4/11/2003	u cant keep a game alive just by adding new things. you have to add new GOOD things that improve the existing problems of a game. the main problem with cs becoming a sport, is the speed. eco-camping, moves taking 2mins to prepare walking at snail pace... the shield doesnt add anything to the game when u thing of it like that, it just detracts even more. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wlobban thed0n 00:31 4/11/2003	#care [ Score: -1, pointless \| Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raveh Shoot First Ask Later 00:54 4/11/2003	I agree with Naz =] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	callous Specster 01:07 4/11/2003	its like interp and mouse acceleration, if u cant get rid of it u gotta live with it i think 5 ppl with ak could beat 5 ppl with shield, if they all nade then charge the shields down i think CAL got it right, be interesting for semi-eco's tho :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-Naz- fightclubclan 01:22 4/11/2003	no the only reason u have to "live with it" is because there isnt another game on the market as addictive and noobie-friendly as cs, so we have no choice but to accept the changes made to it. ppl say "everyone whines after each version, but they always carry on playing"... u know why? cos its not like they can ring up the regulatory commission for computer games and complain - they have to keep playing. valve's gaming monopoly is only temporary, their success is solely down to a mod not even their own, i believe the quicker valve lose money, the better it is for competition and gaming in general. just look how poorly made steam is... and their inability to stick to deadlines. most other games companies would be in serious trouble, except valve have an army of teenagers who will keep on playing cs no matter what they do. the solution? quite simple, a tournament version of cs. UT2k3 have the TTM mod for pro play, quake3 have OSP, and even CPMA. if a pro-mode was made for cs, it would increase its playerbase, viewability, and ultimately its life-span. sorry for the rant, but this subject p***es me off more than ukt dumbass admins. [ Score: 2, informative \| Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MeGaMaN- Rush! 01:23 4/11/2003	People slaver on about making games more realistic and s*** but cs is becoming less and less fun to play with every release and this is epitomised by the inclusion of the riot shield [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MeGaMaN- Rush! 01:24 4/11/2003	oh and what cy said [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Styla Infinity-eSports 01:45 4/11/2003	Quote from Naz "there isnt another game on the market as addictive and noobie-friendly as cs." Sorry, I simply can't agree with you, although I've not played many online FPS's there are some seriously easy games out there to pickup. Look at HLDM if you've ever played it... its a f***ing joke you can rackup frags and top servers on your first go. CS still remains in my eyes the only game that takes time to become even semi skilled at. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk twisted Reality 02:07 4/11/2003	disagree styla :( I think cs is a game which can be picked up very fast, it does take a lot of effort n hardwork to get to a higher level such as 4k sk etc etc, but when u go on a public u can almost always guarantee u will get f*ed over by someone who has only been playing a couple of months. examples is my 14 yr old cousin owning tmc0r 1on1 on fy_iceworld (on lan so dont count in tmc0rs world) jokes :P but I think u understand where Im coming from, cs is very f*ing random as well compared to other games. I do like the idea of OSP style mod for cs, I dont see how it would help cs. For a game like RTCW it can, as there isn't ways of restarting the maps and its good to have a ready up system. cs already has most of osp style options built into it and u can get metamod plugins to do the rest of the stuff such as readying up and ingame statistics. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	amarc 02:32 4/11/2003	examples is my 14 yr old cousin owning tmc0r 1on1 on fy_iceworld (on lan so dont count in tmc0rs world) jokes :P Lies Ed! And remember how poor you were when you started lanning down e-Ville heehhe ; ) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Phoenix[FuN] theb0g 02:45 4/11/2003	The addition of momentum to CS made the game very slow and much easier to kill people, add to that spray and pray, all the bugs, and now the shield and you have a nice step out of your diapers - step in cs kind of game. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Sy 2seXeh 2perfoRm 03:36 4/11/2003	cba reading that but tbh shield on aztec br has gotta be a win with support from steps u can stand right at front and miss the he's as they will go flyin past :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kai` 04:23 4/11/2003	uk2 shield blocks @ cpl final, that would be comedy genius [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ZaG Online Multiplayer Gaming 06:20 4/11/2003	wow, theres actually some interesting points raised for once on UKT :) makes for a better read than all the usual flames :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TecwynWhittock 07:03 4/11/2003	Comments are only sensible as GaZ is too busy flirting with StrideR in the shoutbox to come and flame. End of the day comments don't matter, proof of the pudding is in the pie. It'll either be a valuable addition to the game, as superfluous as NV or a completely random unbalanced annoyance that f**ks up the game. p.s. is GaZ/ZaG a Jekyll and Hyde type thing ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ZaG Online Multiplayer Gaming 07:24 4/11/2003	dont bother using my name in the same sentence as his plz, kiss :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	caleb n00bhands 07:26 4/11/2003	shield is just a comedy prop cant wait to see the pro's use them. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wolfie WanadooWolfie 07:27 4/11/2003	using the shield on a de_ map can be a half-death-wish. supposing all 5 players get a shield, they are basically in godmode with a few small 'acceils heels', or hoever you spell it :). this gives the T's ample oppurtunity to run over, plant the bomb, and the CT's can do jack s*** without coming out of their veil of godliness. they have pistols, with a bloody great lump of something covering half their screen, and 30 seconds to kill 5 people, whereas the T's have AK/mp5/galil (:/) etc, to sit there and wait till someone pops out of their turtle shell, shoot them, kill them. they just have 30 seconds to sit by the bomb and shoot occasionally. thats one of my views anyway :P, seems like using the sheild is a bit of a kiss of death, of all the team uses it, of course, if only one or two use it to draw fire, while the person with a colt/scout/awp stands there and shoots buggery out of them, it works well. All depends on peoples choice of use for it. cant remember who is was that suggested covering the eyeslot so people cant see out, but that was the best idea yet :] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	lukuS 08:35 4/11/2003	Achilles heels... yes... have a small area that you could hit on the front of it (say their feet) would be fairly amusing... if not a little more balanced. The thing that is particularly irritating about the shield is the way that you can see their side, and still not blast them to hell :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pash 09:11 4/11/2003	hehe, me and me bro on lan have gone on many public servers and 1 buys shield 1 sits behind waiting for teh killing oppurtunity :D works damn well..............cpl's here we come :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	HeNdie Void 09:53 4/11/2003	YaY mickey mouse! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DidGe Synergy Online 10:02 4/11/2003	rofl riot shield. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rd theb0g 10:04 4/11/2003	didge can u do us all a favour and stop postin on this site ----- sorry 2 break the trend of useful and non-flaming comments reece, jst he annoys me :[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Valar 10:07 4/11/2003	look CAL = american. therefore, who gives a s***? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	rd theb0g 10:10 4/11/2003	CPL = Worldwide so most of the 'good' CS community :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Valar 10:29 4/11/2003	which only includes about 4 uk clans? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[i:Venom] BLACKLiGHT 10:48 4/11/2003	agree with naz, they should make a competition mode, get rid of the cs and as maps, ditch the shield and other useless s*** like nightvision, would be decent [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[i:Venom] BLACKLiGHT 10:50 4/11/2003	i think the shield could be used effectively if there was a limit of 1 shield per team, this could bring some nice tactics to the game. instead of a roman army style charge. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DooMeh Lite 10:51 4/11/2003	yeah an OSP style mod for cs would be brilliant. Make the game play as it needs to be at competition level. Is it feasible for something like this to happen? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Magic^ 10:57 4/11/2003	the real advantage of the sheild is for Terrorists .. getting into a bombsite and stopping people defusing by refusing to die as last man alive i wouldnt want to risk using a sheild as CT incase it gets picked up and used 10x more effectivly to score rounds against me later on [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	NukleuZ Black Death Warriors 11:02 4/11/2003	the real advantage of the sheild is for Terrorists .. getting into a bombsite and stopping people defusing by refusing to die as last man alive lol.. only CTs can buy the sheild ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 11:58 4/11/2003	Sorry, I simply can't agree with you, although I've not played many online FPS's there are some seriously easy games out there to pickup. Look at HLDM if you've ever played it... its a f***ing joke you can rackup frags and top servers on your first go. It's like any other game, depends who you play, anyone could own uk2. HLDM is a far more skillful game than CS, just play anyone half-decent with the gauss or xbow [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 12:00 4/11/2003	Couldn't agree more on the Competition Mode thing btw. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Magic^ 12:43 4/11/2003	read the comment u dumb f*ing c* [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 12:45 4/11/2003	you're referring to NukleuZ I assume ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 13:09 4/11/2003	no luke, yer a dumb f*ing c* :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rude^ Jay Bee Eye! 13:13 4/11/2003	av im andy [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fez 13:25 4/11/2003	hopefully other leagues dont follow suit [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 13:45 4/11/2003	james, your words hurt :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Samje 13:52 4/11/2003	when u start CS, public is fun, you run and shoot. Its simple. Then you get into clans/clan games, and its like a whole new game... You dont need stupid f***ing shields to keep the game alive, 1.5 was out for ages, and i never got tired (and still perfer it now.) New maps, are probably the only worthwhile edition to help keep the game fresh. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Duellist Professional Gamer 13:55 4/11/2003	The shield has loads of good uses as ct and I've seen only one suggested. Velta how can u say it's useless. One shield can absorb most of the bullets of a 5 man rush. Ct's eco rushing on all maps will be far more effective if the first man has a shield. On aztec you can constantly check the bridge with practically no risk to yourself. Dust 2 - ct sitting in the tunnel is so tricky to get past it's silly - and shield wins vs awp as t's normally have glock as secondary. Advancing with the shield is practically risk fee. To suggest that the whole team buys a shield is plain silly. I'm personally not in favour of the shield mostly because it doesn't take much skill to use it and it's ridiculous how effective it is against awp. If it is included in leagues it will mean tactics will have to be reworked to get passed it as t's or use it as ct's. Can't just ignore it. Oh and a great comment by Magic^ i wouldnt want to risk using a sheild as CT incase it gets picked up and used 10x more effectivly to score rounds against me later on [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seno Puk Kai 14:55 4/11/2003	i guess the para will come into use more often now, just hope u dont run out of ammo against 5 shields! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seno Puk Kai 14:55 4/11/2003	btw did anyone know that the para can mow down the shield users? lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Duellist Professional Gamer 15:17 4/11/2003	Fair pont Seno, but how often do you buy a para in a clan match? I'm guessing it's not every round. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seno Puk Kai 15:40 4/11/2003	but u can start buying it during clan matches :) each gun should have its strategic use, para was hardly used in a clan match because it was useless, but now with the shield introduced the para can come in handy in a game. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Malis formidable 15:43 4/11/2003	whats the problem? deal with it and move on instead of b***hing about it. Duellist has made the only worthwhile point so far, with some interesting tactics for clans to try out. try out something different for awhile, for christs sake, you may actually find something new to use instead of rehashing old cpl moves. you all sound as bad as some public server lamers whining about the awm. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seno Puk Kai 15:46 4/11/2003	you all sound as bad as some public server lamers whining about the awm. plz dont include me in it, i havent moaned about the shield since it was released....... -_- [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Seno Puk Kai 15:48 4/11/2003	you cant really afford to buy para every round, but thats the same with awp isnt it. just eco and hope it will help win the crucial rounds. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	emfive 15:58 4/11/2003	sv_cheats should be set to 1 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Velta Professional Gamer 16:00 4/11/2003	My point was Gilga that both are useless. "The shield will be legal during CPL match play." Its been allowed already Shaw? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hamster r4ngers 16:16 4/11/2003	i remember a similar upcry when bunnyhopping/fastjumping was taken out [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil 17:34 4/11/2003	The simple fact is that once someone engages a player with a shield the game turns in to a benny hill sketch as people run around trying to get the sheild users back to kill him and he waits and waits for the attacker to run out of bullets. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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