What went on at ACON5 - Lastchance's View

Posted by Ripper at 12:35 24/4/2005.

madSpunK has published an article over at the lastchance website describing, from their point of view, what went on at ACON5. Here's a snippet:

We sat behind them and watched them run around with knives and deagles as T on cbble giving pphs as many rounds as possible. At first we thought they were just pissing about, but then we realised what they were trying to do. After the first half (where pphs won comfortably) the rest of the team and I knew what 4K were trying to achieve.

Check out the entire article here.

Update: 4Kings have released information of their own regarding the current situation surrounding the Acon 5 UK Qualifiers. As things stand 4Kings will be returning their prize of a trip to China to the relevant tournament officials. After deliberation, 4Kings have decided to attend WEG Season 2 and as such a conflict arises with dates set aside for ACON5 finals. To this end, ACON5 officials will now be left to determine the most appropriate UK entrant for the event based on this weekends activity. As previously stated, 4Kings believed that a fixture against a mix team on de_train, a map often highlighted as one requiring excellent levels of teamplay, would be an easier route to the final of the tournament.

Comments

prawn
12:44 24/4/2005
#1 [ Score: -1, pointless | Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
prawn
12:45 24/4/2005
That wasn't as satisfying as I thought it'd be :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jeppo
Last Chance
12:47 24/4/2005
Hexus are also releasing an Article on it soon I think [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
12:49 24/4/2005
something tells me 4K are going to come and f*** up Rush!.SUMMERSLAMS chances of winning i24. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
12:49 24/4/2005
we'll be ready [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
jkirkbride
12:54 24/4/2005
any pics? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MeGaMaN-
Rush!
12:55 24/4/2005
rush.summerslam would dominate 4kings [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
12:55 24/4/2005
http://www.gcms.k12.il.us/gcmsms/images/misc/Mr.%20Richoz%20and%20nerds.jpg [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Su1
12:57 24/4/2005
not like lastchance or landed would of won it anyway being real :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
12:58 24/4/2005
RTFA [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
12:59 24/4/2005
missing the point really Su1, coming 2nd means going to china + getting gfx cards. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux`
13:05 24/4/2005
hahahahah talk about f***ing bitterness, madspunk seriously ur a f***ing goon...i read like a para of that crap uve wrote.

Go and work for John Smiths idiot. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Champion
In The Zone
13:08 24/4/2005
ridiculous tbh, the admins should have had the balls to disqual 4k, lc and mex got screwed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NeonCraze
Viva La Resistance
13:09 24/4/2005
hows that bitterness? you play to win in cs and thats what 4kings didnt do, hardly setting a example as the 'leading' team in uk with the whole corperate backing to behave like this. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:14 24/4/2005
They played to get an easier route to the final - a tactical level rarely seen in UK cs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
13:15 24/4/2005
liar doz :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
muffin
The Incarnate
13:17 24/4/2005
That would be true but aren't 4k giving their prize away to Landed? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
pie
Black Death Warriors
13:18 24/4/2005
Pyroux, you really are an idiot.

I feel sorry for LastChance. These oppertunities dont come round very often, and when you are the clan that is set to get the big prize, and its taken away from you, it must feel pretty bad.

4K don't really get involved with the UK scene, and when they do, this is what happens? I'd rather them stay away. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MeGaMaN-
Rush!
13:19 24/4/2005
When the stakes are as high as they were in this tournament with such good prizes I don't think its fair to cheat people like that. I would be fairly p***ed off if I was in LC's position. 4K don't need to pull stunts like that and are abusing their status as the number 1 team in UK. What a surprise the admins didnt have the bottle to disqualify them. Embarrasing for all involved. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
13:19 24/4/2005
typical bulls*** from the w**kers at 4k. theyve ALWAYS had everything go their own way at uk lans cos they the best team. maybe one day someone will have the balls to stand up to them and put them in their f***ing place, they think cos they r the best team they can do watever the f*** they like, they shouldve been kicked out as stated in the rules, but the f***ing c**ks get away with it as f***ing usual, always have been and always will be f***ing c***s. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
13:21 24/4/2005
the PAYNE will stand up to them if they pull any of these shenanigans at i24, believe me, he has a special relationship with the multiplay admins [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
muffin
The Incarnate
13:23 24/4/2005
Pyroux has a crime watch face. He thinks he is a legend because he is in an average UK team, with him consistantly performing badly on lan. He is an ex cheat. He is also very proud of his GNVQ in internet design after failing all his gcses. Pyroux please don't come back. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
13:23 24/4/2005
what Obi said! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nicklearse
Missing In Action
13:29 24/4/2005
haha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
13:30 24/4/2005
gj 4kings,
David Duck Pratt is so hot right now!
We can all learn a lesson from this, brown nose top players on irc as much as possible! :D
love you zaG blud. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bomber
endeffect
13:34 24/4/2005
kenny you fenian f***, soooo lucky [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux`
13:34 24/4/2005
i dont play cs anymore. I have never cheated. I have no gnvq's. I passed all my GSCE's. Anything else u wanna make up Larry Letslie.

You can come out with a few more cs related insults if u want, like i can use an awp, up to u.

4K wanted to play lc cuz they are prob 2nd best in uk who f***in cares if they lost. I dont. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lyo-
eSports.Edge
13:38 24/4/2005
for this unscrupulous event i suggest bringing back the punishments of old

hanging is a gd one

or....

when black ppl used to run away from cottons fields they cut off their foot so they couldnt do it again! so maybe cut off their right hands so they cant use a mouse again!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
muffin
The Incarnate
13:39 24/4/2005
Lets hug. I know if you were in the same position you would of kicked up a fuss, so I don't see why other aren't allowed to. Congratulations on your GCSE's btw. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux`
13:40 24/4/2005
thanks mate, only 5 years too late, however my 10k payrise i had at christmas u shud be congratulating me on tho. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fun time fatteh
13:42 24/4/2005
so your up to 10k now pyroux :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mupp
13:43 24/4/2005
gotta feel for lc, getting screwed by mangiafatc*** and chums

typical bulls*** from the w**kers at 4k

think that sums it up nicely [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux`
13:47 24/4/2005
:( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SuperNova
13:51 24/4/2005
gj pyroux, because your not a nerd. "I dont play cs anymore" but i like to keep up to date with all the top news on UKT because i have no real hobbies and i think eSports is reaaalllly cool.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
13:51 24/4/2005
lol fatteh :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
monkE
euthanasia
13:57 24/4/2005
unicon deliberately lost to casual5 and esu at the qualifier in an elaborate attempt to play the brackets; needless to say it didnt work nearly as well as it did for 4k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brenje
reSonance
13:59 24/4/2005
I've got to admit that personally i dont like some of the lastchance lads, or some people associated with them because of the attitude they seem to put across.

However, when i have played or spoken to them, they have also come across as genuinely good sportsman and i certainly dont think that they deserved to be screwed over like this. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
brenje
reSonance
14:00 24/4/2005
lol monkE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
14:04 24/4/2005
Ultimately lc would likely have had to beat 4k in the final. 4k have every intention of going to China so lc wouldn't end up going [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Stevenson
14:12 24/4/2005
never really liked some of lc but still its a s***ty way to lose out on some decent prizes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ensnare
Atari.Crew
14:13 24/4/2005
suprised anyone pays you anything with your "web design" skills, must of sucked alot of c**k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KarD
Nocturne
14:17 24/4/2005
DoZ - the point is we had to work both buttcheeks off to beat Landed with the mix we had and ensure we were top of our group to get away from playing 4k in semi finals and so allowing us to get the x850s. So instead of most likely getting those, we got soundcards :) because 4k fixed it. I cant believe you are defending or even justifying what they did - its not 'tactics' its unfair play [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
14:29 24/4/2005
you could say they tactically got landed some graphics cards [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ablation
contact!
14:36 24/4/2005
Except that if madSpunk says is true, that would have been against the rules. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Headshot^Man`
Disturbed
14:39 24/4/2005
you got f***ed, ul. Nothing you can do but accept it.

Cant help but laugh though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux`
14:47 24/4/2005
hahaha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dh
14:58 24/4/2005
To me, To you, To me [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NeonCraze
Viva La Resistance
15:04 24/4/2005
lol monke ;E

we tacticaly turned up 2 hours late, to not play any real games, to not win any game, and to walk away with 1gig of ram each and another guy won the p4 3.5 ghz. pffft ;E [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
matto
15:11 24/4/2005
Harsh, not only what they did to lc, but fixing the group also meant that pphs went through instead of mex.

Not that I really care, I just can’t believe that the 4K.mix thought it was ok when there were good prizes at stake. It shows a complete lack of respect for the acon5 competition in my opinion.

I guess 4K are arrogant tossers after all! :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
15:12 24/4/2005
Losing on purpose is against the rules, it is actually part of the iguk code of conduct which all people participating in the acon quals had to abide by. And quite clearly, 4k didn't. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiz
15:36 24/4/2005
Harsh ensnare, no need for that.

AND SAY HAIL HAIL TO THE CHAMPIONS OF THE SPL 2005 UP THE CELTS!!!!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mebR
16:04 24/4/2005
i dont think its in doubt that they threw the game, their statement about:

"As previously stated, 4Kings believed that a fixture against a mix team on de_train, a map often highlighted as one requiring excellent levels of teamplay, would be an easier route to the final of the tournament."

admits they lost on purpose, so its what should be done about it is the problem, although theyll probably just get away with it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
16:05 24/4/2005
Dont get ahead of yourself, you still had teams to beat you lost and maybe at the next event you can win yourself some headphones for those dashing soundblaster cards [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Flamebo_
16:11 24/4/2005
maybe if lastchance weren't such c**ks to people online.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Exocet
RemOte.uK
16:15 24/4/2005
whatever is said online doesnt justify people getting screwed out of an all expenses paid trip to china. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Crappy
Super Breasts
16:16 24/4/2005
ROFL akuji, and hush up flamebo or I'll walk up to station road and you'll experiance a home invasion! :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
16:17 24/4/2005
To this end, ACON5 officials will now be left to determine the most appropriate UK entrant for the event based on this weekends activity
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Flamebo_
16:18 24/4/2005
lol theres a lot of houses on station road, i'm pretty confident :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vpR
16:21 24/4/2005
im no friend of lc's since a certain event a year or so back but they are not c**ks to anyone online or on lan, if your a c**k to them then they will do so back so plz dont start giving 4k an excuse to do what they did, it affected a hell of alot more people than just lc but lc got hard done by, and whatever that UPDATE means is complete bs... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tanjo
16:25 24/4/2005
Oh keir , and i thought you screwing a 14 year old lass you met online would be your lowest point... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dh
16:29 24/4/2005
i love how u got the wrong person tanjo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Jazzy Jebus
Rage
16:31 24/4/2005
Wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact madspunk stated they wasted around 350/400 quid each, for nothing. It's like a big ol' mugging. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
16:33 24/4/2005
think ur gettin me mixed up buddy! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
16:41 24/4/2005
lc just suck [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
t0m
16:50 24/4/2005
chinese new year [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fun time fatteh
16:52 24/4/2005
who got the mp3 players ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiz
17:02 24/4/2005
the pphs players that owned 4kings! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
17:03 24/4/2005
400 quid? did they go on the plane? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
17:05 24/4/2005
tanjo you dick [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
17:06 24/4/2005
Every spurs supported in the country would want spurs to lose to chelsea on the last day of the season if it stopped arsenal getting the championship.

4K are good enough to dictate the way they play.... they dont like you, tough s***... beat them. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cj1
17:08 24/4/2005
i got a mp3 player YAY! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vpR
17:09 24/4/2005
i wonder what you would say if it was 2s2p vs 4kings in the semis when you could have won it :), or perhaps if you were in place of mEx when we got knocked out cuz of their childish behaviour [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dsjEE
17:13 24/4/2005
i got a mp3 player w00p :DD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St3al7h
Collective
17:15 24/4/2005
So 4k are admitting deliberately losing a game to gain an easier path to the final which is directly against the rules of the tournament? Clever, regardless of the personal reasons for doing it, its against the rules?! So you break the rules, admit to it, and get away with it… screwing over other clans in the process. Well pld. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Glover
17:20 24/4/2005
"4Kings believed that a fixture against a mix team on de_train, a map often highlighted as one requiring excellent levels of teamplay, would be an easier route to the final of the tournament."

that alone is smart thinking an just proves 4k > all [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaM
17:24 24/4/2005
i suppose many teams in many competitions of different 'sports' do field understrength teams etc. which can fk others over. if they genuinely did do it to grant themselves an easier draw its not really that outrageous~, as they were playing to win the competition and make it easier for themselves you could argue, not just a single game. if they did it just to fk lc over and no other reason tho its pretty unfair [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
17:26 24/4/2005
at the point we played PPHS the team we were to play next (shyna) or something had just 2 players so we wanted to get the game over with and tournament in general! No personal reasons were involved, hell i didnt even know we couldnt attend acon til after we won. The uk cs team is a shambles your right, what justification is there for a) a mix team to be able to attend the qualifier or a mix team to attend china? Companies are putting hundreds of thousands into these events and they are attended by half assed mix teams and even won by them! eitherway lastchance nor us deserve to go to china and if landed go best of luck to them, they were the second best "TEAM" there! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NeonCraze
Viva La Resistance
17:28 24/4/2005
hardly second best team since lastchance beat them, lastchance deserved a shot in the final or at least 2nd place prize. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
17:31 24/4/2005
hence the elaboration on the word team. Like ive said before, it wasnt 4K at the event i have no idea why we were signed up as 4K and thats the reason we werent all tagged up! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
17:35 24/4/2005
yes its viable to play understrength to get a better route. however, after reading what myers said (he acknowlegded the 'rule breaking') it seems EXETREMELY harsh on LC.

It has to be said
1) why is myers an admin with that kind of behaviour.
2) why the fk didnt you kick up a bigger fuss at the time instead of getting home behind ur kboard and crying? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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