UKT LAN 5 to be CS 1.5

Posted by Myers at 17:51 25/9/2003.

Due to the problems surrounding the current release of CS 1.6, Steam, lack of HLTV and various issues that could arise we have decided to use Counter-Strike 1.5 for UKTerrorist LAN Championships 5.

With Counter-Strike 1.5 teams will not have to learn new layouts of maps (the list of order of which will be released on Sunday) and myself and the staff of the Northampton IT-Centre well practiced in what we are doing with regards to server setup, HLTV and any other problems that could arise. Thus ensuring a smooth tournament for all competitors.

Apologies for any inconvenience this change has caused, but in the long run we hope most players appreciate our decision.

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conspiracy
17:52 25/9/2003
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Psy^
xtreme9.uk
17:52 25/9/2003
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AnNuM
17:53 25/9/2003
b******s, ive not got 1.5 on my new PC! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Genics
thed0n
17:55 25/9/2003
Due to the problems surrounding the current release of CS 1.6, Steam, lack of HLTV

Dont pretend you were gona put up HLTV! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
frantiC``
Shoot First Ask Later
17:55 25/9/2003
fs been playing 1.6 since it come out ;/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ferrers
Sniper's Alley
17:55 25/9/2003
bent :/

Is there a technical reason why it cant be 1.6 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
17:56 25/9/2003
surely using 1.6 would be better for u, then ud have an excuse and someone else to blaim for no/s*** hltv, instead of just being useless :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Geordie
Last Chance
17:56 25/9/2003
yay! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Otis
Rush!
17:57 25/9/2003
LOL oh dear [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
17:57 25/9/2003
i echo geo's excitement [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
FragMentor
17:57 25/9/2003
o/

hooray! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
17:57 25/9/2003
Bad mistake imo. 1.5 is dead, why use it? I understand the reasons you put, but surely they can be resolved by the time UKT5 is on. What's stopping us going back to good ol' beta 5.4? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:58 25/9/2003
Use it because 1.6 is still as good as a beta. Why risk having to screw everyone over cancelling a tourny or having it REALLY badly run when 1.5 is still out there and people can still play it? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
biffster
2seXeh 2perfoRm
17:59 25/9/2003
sure the vote at present is 51% for 1.6!

why put up a vote then decide agaisnt it?

Biff
1.5 was yesterday 1.6 is today? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wolfeh
Disturbed
17:59 25/9/2003
bonii [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
17:59 25/9/2003
OK OK B 5.4 has no HLTV, b4 any of u say. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
17:59 25/9/2003
Just use 1.6, you can't hide away from it forever. Just because theres no LAN version yet...so? THE IT-Centre is an Internet Cafe isn't it, I'm pretty sure that means it has an internet connection ? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArk0r
Infinity-eSports
17:59 25/9/2003
maybe coz the pcs are northampton cant handle 1.6? u didnt even get 100fps in 1,5 let alone 1.6 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Triz
18:00 25/9/2003
1.6 coudda caused a few upsets. shame we wont see that till ukt6 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:01 25/9/2003
It'd be stupid to use 1.6 with it as buggy as it is at the moment. Myers has made the right decision [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Turk1sh
18:01 25/9/2003
jokes. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
18:01 25/9/2003
Myers has made the right decision

i never thought i'd see the day.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:02 25/9/2003
Me either Shads, but it has happened ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Macca
18:02 25/9/2003
1.5's s*** tho :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:02 25/9/2003
Doz, check the latest set of bug fixes, 1.6 will be fine come UKT5. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Macca
18:03 25/9/2003
lets just hope some none ukt clans are looking to practise on 1.5 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
18:03 25/9/2003
good decision, 1.6 is s*** and full of bugs still, plus the pc's at the IT centre cant handle it, im sure ull all be glad to have a decent fps on maps like aztec rather than the 40-50 u wouldve had if they used 1.6 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Turk1sh
18:04 25/9/2003
This = ....... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:04 25/9/2003
Skank, check valve's ability to stick to deadlines. 1.5 is the safe bet [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
frantiC``
Shoot First Ask Later
18:05 25/9/2003
well as its 1.5 i should hope azzy is removed from the map list [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ssj
18:06 25/9/2003
lol, i kno alot of people whove uninstalled 1.5, oh well, well have to practise 1.6 and just play 1.5 on the day [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scara
North & South
18:07 25/9/2003
Good decision, after ukt-x i cant see why ppl are moaning when 1.6 is likely to cause alot of f*** ups. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
meatyballs
18:07 25/9/2003
yay [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:07 25/9/2003
I see that Doz, but there is plenty of time, the only real issue I can see is the PC performance, if the case really is that the fps will be too low on 1.6 then at a pinch use 1.5, still, GET BETTER DAMN PCS. This is meant to be a repected competition, yet the PCs can't handle the latest version of the game! wtf?? I am only going on a hunch but I reckon that 1.6 will be fine come UKT5, most people want to play it, so I guess the next poll should be "are you willing to use 1.6 even if it causes problems?" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:09 25/9/2003
People need to be told in advance what to use and have the time to get used to it. 1.5 is the safe bet, there's NO assurance that half the problems for holding a lan tournament will be sorted for 1.6

Considering people pay money to enter and to get there, take time off work etc. To have another tournament possibly go ballsup because you're trying to use a buggy bit of software when there's a stable version would just be dumb. Even Myers can see that [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
18:11 25/9/2003
skank those pc's shoudl be more than good enough to handle such a f***ing old game, but at the end of the day valve have shagged the engine up so much that they cant [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arsen
Head Arse
UKTerrorist
18:11 25/9/2003
If 1.6 was used and there were problems (which I'm 90% sure there would be) then you would have a news post with about 900 comments on how much of a f***up the lan was. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:11 25/9/2003
yeah you're right about that, I just reckon 1.6 will be fine. Besides, I can't play 1.5 anymore. Don't like the font. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Montaver
theb0g
18:13 25/9/2003
1.5 > 1.6 , bug fixes or not. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:13 25/9/2003
Obi, it is because it is an old game that it causes these fps problems, it can't use Hardware T&L so that has to be done on CPU, the more complex they make the game, the more CPU it uses, so older, slower CPUs have probs with FPS, anything 2GHz is more than enough, and they are pretty cheap nowadays. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
18:13 25/9/2003
HOLD THE PRESS

skank doesnt like the font in 1.5

gonna have to go with 1.6 now guys [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:14 25/9/2003
1.6 font is one of the few bad changes ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
18:15 25/9/2003
I'm pretty sure IT centre have 1.7 GHZ with a Geforce 4 Mx 440, as does my local lan centre. It easily handles aztec, 99fps, that's if you mess about with some settings, and turn v-sync off. Should be easily enough to run 1.6 aztec. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
18:15 25/9/2003
skank i have a 2.53 and i dont get 100 solid :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:15 25/9/2003
Yeah I hated the new font at first, now I got used to it and I cant even read the old one. Makes my eyes bleed.
:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bagz
18:15 25/9/2003
"Due to the problems surrounding the current release of CS 1.6, Steam, lack of HLTV and various issues that could arise we have decided to use Counter-Strike 1.5 for UKTerrorist LAN Championships 5."

you were never any good with hltv and there are always probs anyway at ukt lans :)

make it 1.6 !! :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
StriKeN
unicon.cs
18:15 25/9/2003
you have got to be f***ing kidding? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
18:15 25/9/2003
I've got 2.4ghz, and gf4 ti4200. I get 99fps solid on aztec, and all other maps. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
18:16 25/9/2003
are you willing to use 1.6 even if it causes problems

you really really really don't want to go down that road :)

a lan tournament is all about finding the right balance most of the time, if you give all the teams all the setup time they want, you'll be finished at 3:00am...and you'll be bombarded with complaints, if you give each team 15 mins setup time, you'll be finished by 8:00pm and you'll get complaints cos lots of players didn't get all their hardware working properly. So you gotta find th eright balance and aim to finish by 10:00pm.

But with cs 1.6 everyone knows there are gonna be problems, and i'm not talking about the fps on the computers. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
18:16 25/9/2003
glad to hear its 1.5 :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:16 25/9/2003
omg Obi, what gfx u got? you should have 100fps solid 100% of the time with that CPU and a 1/2 decent gfx card.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
StriKeN
unicon.cs
18:16 25/9/2003
aggghhhh one league 1.5
one tournament 1.6
another 1.5
another 1.6

god im confusedf [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
18:17 25/9/2003
im pretty much same as u except i got 2.53, and i dont, i always did in 1.5 it didnt drop watever res etc i used, but now i get big drops on azzy and even some small ones on other maps, get better fps in new games with far better gfx [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
stabby
Virgins!
18:17 25/9/2003
wp

i recon there would of been some sort of problem if it was 1.6 then i probly woulda turned into a uktX like event :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux
2seXeh 2perfoRm
18:17 25/9/2003
f***ing yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
StriKeN
unicon.cs
18:18 25/9/2003
i suppose on 2nd thoughts its probs for the best...

if a 1.5 tournament can't be run with relative ease, then 1.6 will just go completely to pot [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bagz
18:18 25/9/2003
or set ukt5 back [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
18:18 25/9/2003
or not bagz

train tickets, rooms, etc booked [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
polaris
church
18:19 25/9/2003
People would moan if you set it back, as most people probably booked time off, train tickets, lifts, ect [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ocean
Puk Kai
18:20 25/9/2003
i'm sure every should have been bored to f00k with 1.5 by now :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:22 25/9/2003
I am Ocean. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux
2seXeh 2perfoRm
18:23 25/9/2003
Yup....put it back wot a s*** idea... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mr. Whippy
Disposable Heroes
18:23 25/9/2003
Appreciate the thinking behind this, but it could have been announced a bit earlier really... This must have been considered from the start, 1.6 was always going to be a bit buggy. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:24 25/9/2003
jesus what difference does it make apart from buying weapons and the fact that people spray more now.... basically whoever's got the best aim and teamplay will do well.

HLTV will still be a problem though as no one's got 1.5 anymore and it more than likely wont work with WON down [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
18:25 25/9/2003
Great! looks like this lan will be super fun! everyones been playing 1.6, lamelamelame. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:25 25/9/2003
Yeah but it means we can't do our 5 shield + 5-7 tactic. That was leet. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Endo
Legend
18:26 25/9/2003
i have to agree with this, many people me included have been playing 1.6 since it came out, and i know this is abit of a f***up for those people. But seriously steam has no lan capabilitys at the moments, plus the fact of new maps and mostly HLTV. HLTV in 1.6 doesn't work, as valve decided not to update it, rather to concentrate on the money aspect of there programs. GG WP VALVE. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
18:26 25/9/2003
If 1.6 was used and there were problems (which I'm 90% sure there would be) then you would have a news post with about 900 comments on how much of a f***up the lan was.

Good point, it will only be 600 comments on how much of a f*** up the lan was. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:26 25/9/2003
u never told me about this tactic Ins ? :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
18:27 25/9/2003
Oh no you've been playing 1.6 for a whole week and now you have to play 1.5 again, which u played for oh....ages.....hope you havent lost your many amazing skills! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:27 25/9/2003
Well Endo, that was one of the bonuses of it being 1.6 imo, the fact that maps had changed, would have made teams come up with revised tactics etc, would have been interesting. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:29 25/9/2003
I have Messiah, any skill that I had has all been converted to 1.6 mode, I suck at 1.5, can't even buy a mp5 now.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
18:29 25/9/2003
It will be interesting. When it works [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
skank
18:29 25/9/2003
haha you can't tell I am bored at work can you? heheh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:30 25/9/2003
oops, I meant skank :I [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
18:30 25/9/2003
at least ripper will actually buy awp when he's T instead of that s***ter sniper rifle [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silva`
ForsakeN
18:31 25/9/2003
at least ripper will actually buy awp when he's T instead of that s***ter sniper rifle [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:32 25/9/2003
Is the CPL GUI used at UKT ? I'm used to using it's buy binds to buy :E [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
GaZ-
18:33 25/9/2003
gud decision 1.6 = utter w**k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
18:33 25/9/2003
HAHAHA nubs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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