Euskal Final Games

Posted by Protex at 14:37 27/7/2003.

Yes it's a bit late, I have only just woken up after flying back from Spain late last night and so didn't have time to update the scores and inform you all of what happened in Spain. The results for the last matches of the competition can be found below.

Loser Bracket: Round 3 (de_inferno)

xP.se vs. eu4ia - 13-10
ProPain vs. nEph - 13-11

Upper Bracket Final (de_dust2)

a-L.MSI vs. Frontline[EYE] - 13-7

Lower Bracket: Final 1 (de_train)

xP.se vs. ProPain - 13-7

Lower Bracket: Final 2 (de_nuke)

xP.se vs. Frontline[EYE] - 13-10

This setup a Grand Final between top Swedish team xPerience.se and German team a-L.MSI.

Grand Final (de_aztec)

a-L.MSI vs. xP.se - 13-3

So a-L.MSI claim the trip to Dallas, while xP.se have to settle with a second place after a hard fought competition. The final standings are as follows:

1st - a-L.MSI (Germany)
2nd - xP.se (Sweden)
3rd - Frontline[EYE] (Sweden)
4th - ProPain (Germany)
5th/6th - nEph / eu4ia
7th/8th - DkS / maX
9th-12th - GoodGame / mTw.sca / C7.OK / OTG.LT

Unfortunate for GoodGame and mTw.sca who were both seen as favourites for this competition, it just goes to show, anything can happen on the day, and in this case it did. Overall a well run tournament and a big congratulations to Mauve, the head admin, for organising it all and helping it to run smoothly.

Comments

Toomy
14:41 27/7/2003
looks like omg!'s seeding was pretty accurate. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
14:49 27/7/2003
id like to you do better toomy u frickin lamz0r tbh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
14:50 27/7/2003
see * [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
14:50 27/7/2003
+SEE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nicklearse
Missing In Action
14:50 27/7/2003
checkout the eye vs. a-l demo i put on sogamed, jonny r just takes the p*** out of eye .. wheres that final demo! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
14:57 27/7/2003
aztec as the final map, what a joke. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
15:02 27/7/2003
lol. wp a-L [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
15:15 27/7/2003
jst watched that demo, he has a couple of mad rounds, esp taking those 2 guys at long a, but he missed loads of shots aswell, wasnt that good. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
15:55 27/7/2003
ul omg

HEHE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
16:13 27/7/2003
how many clans pld in this? cos i cant see omg in the top 12... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nicklearse
Missing In Action
16:23 27/7/2003
they ended up playing mtw in loser bracket and went out early [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
jamsam
16:26 27/7/2003
18teams invited jedi. i think only 16arrived [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
16:32 27/7/2003
Please Please Please Please Please Please Please angry-loosers vs 4K, fking whining german scum. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Cr0n0s
16:44 27/7/2003
32 teams invited, 8 groups of 4 teams and brackets with 16 teams. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
17:24 27/7/2003
mtw twice grmbl :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
17:48 27/7/2003
no one else had a problem beating them [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
17:54 27/7/2003
unlucky lads [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Croz
18:29 27/7/2003
taking part that counts ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vip
Online Multiplayer Gaming
18:40 27/7/2003
thing about omg is we have always had the potential but the ever changing line up has hindered us at that level, we cant just turn up and do well vs the likes on mtw, we need to match their superior skill with a well developed team work which hopefully should come now with our more stable line up. tep has played ace since joining, couldnt be more happy with him.
for our first international lan i was disapointed with our performance, but its only gonna fuel us to work harder as neph said we lacked experience in tense matches, not skill. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JediBitch
fightclubclan
18:48 27/7/2003
its only a game man,put in the practice,and if u got the skill,u can only do as well as u can :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
18:55 27/7/2003
mad skillz event. OMG! finished 13th - 16th in the end. I will be writting a column about the FUN that was had =] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hyperion
18:58 27/7/2003
omg! were unlucky and were unfortunate they only got to play 4 matches. facing mtw.sca in losers bracket was harsh. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
st4tic
19:27 27/7/2003
wasn't expecting GoodGame and mTw.sca to not even be 5th+ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaM
20:00 27/7/2003
respect sumit o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
a1ex^
20:29 27/7/2003
does this mean that if your more well known/respected players ie. Sarge, mike and alex decide to return they will be told there is no space on the team ? no matter how hard a team practices they will never compete at an international standard unless the players are of the highest skill level attainable, if these players are available it seems rather naive not to include them in the line-up. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vip
Online Multiplayer Gaming
20:33 27/7/2003
so what would ur team be a1ex the wiseman [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kuki
20:35 27/7/2003
dNC [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
20:36 27/7/2003
so, you're saying 5 players of raw skill, could beat a practiced team with less skill? get a clue fishboy [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kirdi
Last Chance
20:37 27/7/2003
lol alex - 4K is a team that totally contradicts your argument.

they dont have the most skilled players in the world yet are able to compete at the highest level. why? PRACTICE [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
20:39 27/7/2003
no, liquid dark etc aren't 2 of the worlds best players [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
20:41 27/7/2003
dark hasn't played for them yet ripper .. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
jamsam
20:43 27/7/2003
i think mangia has got the experience and skill to be 1 of the best players in europe. he always shows it when hes playing against some of the best teams in europe. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TeppuM
Online Multiplayer Gaming
20:43 27/7/2003
the arguments about OMG!, stop talking about 4K ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
20:45 27/7/2003
so until he plays for them "officially" he isn't one of the best players in the world? YEH ....... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
a1ex^
20:50 27/7/2003
"TeppuM
20:36, 27/7/2003 so, you're saying 5 players of raw skill, could beat a practiced team with less skill? get a clue fishboy"

please can we keep this civil, it wasnt meant as a slight at the current team i was merely inquiring as to what would happen if the aforementioned people decided to return. and no i never said that "5 players of raw skill, could beat a practiced team with less skill?", the point i was making is that practice and team play only get you so far, you still have to be able to click and point. and what is a fishboy ?

"vip
20:33, 27/7/2003 so what would ur team be a1ex the wiseman"

i dont know i havent played nor kept a close eye on the cs scene in over a year now.

"kirdi
20:37, 27/7/2003 lol alex - 4K is a team that totally contradicts your argument.
they dont have the most skilled players in the world yet are able to compete at the highest level. why? PRACTICE"

the word attainable, means available, maybe i didnt make myself clear, what i meant was if you have a roster of 9 players all with the same motivation to succeed then the intelligent thing to do would be to pick the best 5.

and regarding 4K, you are just being a silly little boy and im not even going to bother responding to what can only be described as moronic. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
20:51 27/7/2003
Liq and Lil I think are easily as good as anyone in europe when top of their game. You got mad players like Johnny R and Element who are probably a bit better, but all around there arent many better than them. If/When Dark plays for 4K they will have 3 players who I deem world class. ShaQ will improve more and more hes just joined, and Wright keeps the whole together rather nicely and all the decisions he makes seem to always defy what critics say.

No way can 4K be classified as a team with 5 mediocre players with amazing teamplay, simply coz i know for a fact some of the players aren't around that much as people seem to think.

I'm not gonna pretend I know all the ins and outs but I do think that 4K rely on individual skill more than tactics. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kuki
20:55 27/7/2003
the mighty JamSam speaks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
21:24 27/7/2003
u can hav crazy aim, and gr8 taccys but i think also experience as a team is needed. time, hard work and experience r all needed 2 b the best :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
21:32 27/7/2003
rd's right you know :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gand
21:34 27/7/2003
wot a1ex was saying is that 5 skilled players with teamplay can go futher than 5 less skilled players with teamplay... kinda logical.. he wasnt saying that skill > practice or anything of the sort, he was talkin bout potential.. if i got it right that is ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
callous
Specster
21:51 27/7/2003
4k would have done well in this tournament

ul omg tough draw, u do better next time [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
22:02 27/7/2003
they didnt need to go so its irrelevant :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SuperNick
22:19 27/7/2003
whats with the s***ty comment deleting?

why make a comments section if people cant say what they want? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nazg0l
fightclubclan
00:20 28/7/2003
ul omg, must have been the mouse sensitivities. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Carb
theb0g
01:03 28/7/2003
Why is 4K even being discussed here? It bears no relevance on omg!'s performance. They need to practice and stop picking up new additions to the team and they will be fine. I'm not sure what teams they PCW online (I'd hazard a guess at some of the better .Fr sides like aAa, aT, GG etc) with are like, but maybe they aren't playing the better sides often enough to improve as a team.

The instability in their lineup only goes to highlight why, once a team has formed and is playing well as a whole, people should really not be dropped / bought in unless there is an extremely valid reason for it (i.e. the case of Clint who just cba with CS anymore and wants to play in his band and make it as a rock star *cough YEAH RIGHT CLINT *cough*)

omg! need to build up good relationships with the clans like mTw.hlo that didn't perform to their abilities at Euskal and start PCWing a lot with these teams. Teamplay only comes with time and practice against good teams that truely test you. All obvious stuff but maybe it's going awry for these reasons. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lyo`
eSports.Edge
03:13 28/7/2003
greg speaks the truth

oh wise one [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
11:00 28/7/2003
1. mTw.hlo? they dont wanna play vs. 100 pingers on their server and they won't compromise playing on ours unless they have to ie. opencup

2. pretty much practice vs. good teams anyway. mTw, SK, intensity, aAa, alosers etc.

3. Only point which relates to us is activity. We dont keep the same team long enough to do anything consistently over, say a period of 3-6 months.

Thats all soon about to change though [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
11:03 28/7/2003
I'm also baffled as to why _some_ of the CPL winners in FCC seem to constantly want to dig a comment in when, quite frankly, they are probably in the LEAST best position to do so. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
11:26 28/7/2003
Jimmy Hill isn't better than David Beckham but he's still entitled to make a comment if beckham has a bad game

attack their point not their right to express it ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
12:12 28/7/2003
Im so honoured, that you m0rph knew we were all in fcc! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
12:40 28/7/2003
al they fink omg! r c**ky and stuck up :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
13:09 28/7/2003
I'm not implying that they don't have a right to express anything. If a pundit was once a footballer who couldnt tackle for example, it would seem ironic for him to criticise a fellow professional for not being able to also.

Like in this case - these 2 are part of the same lot that have been coming up with excuses as to why they seem to never achieve anything when turning up to lans. But when omg!, a clan who has achieved sufficient enough on lan to be considered a solid UK team already, underperforms in a scene where necroboy and nazg0l will never get a chance to even feature because quite frankly they are s***e, they seem to let it all flow out.

I don't know they just seem bitter about being crap [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
13:16 28/7/2003
al necro aint s***, i fink he is just a tad bitter that he is good BUT cant get 2 play 4 the better DK teams, or the better UK teams. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
13:18 28/7/2003
rd's right you know :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
13:34 28/7/2003
go me :] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
13:36 28/7/2003
I agree to some of that. Jedib***h is a whiney f***, but I tend to congratulate the oppenents.

You keep calling us s***, yet you have never played against us? How about giving people a chance before your arrogance sets in.

You were unlucky with your seedings and your 2 games. But ofcourse we were going to gloat since you were so confident before the tournament. And rd, I like playing with people I like and cs coming second, the main reason I have been in fcc for 3 years now. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
13:43 28/7/2003
you seem to call omg! arrogant all the time. Ok hairy muff Greg is a f***ing arrogant peen, but its ok coz hes got blonde hair.

I never once wanted to get involved until you just started putting that tag on all of us. omg! aren't an arrogant bunch. Craig, for example, has nothing to be arrogant about, hes minging.

Greg might have his moments yeah course, hes outspoken, I was like that too at some point. I take back calling u s***, and whatever else, but when you say 'give us a chance' u should consider that his or teppum's thought's dont neccassarily reflect the other's in the team

ps. we have played u btw :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
13:54 28/7/2003
what did i say? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
13:56 28/7/2003
hairy u said nuffin, u jst declared ur undying love 4 me [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
14:03 28/7/2003
Can who ever is using necroboy's login stop making us out to be f***ing tits! Stupid f***. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
14:07 28/7/2003
tusk tusk, danish people making the uk cs scene worse! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
14:07 28/7/2003
"mOrph" lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
14:13 28/7/2003
I cant compete with your sexuality no more rd. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
14:55 28/7/2003
when did we play you? :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
15:22 28/7/2003
was with lastchance :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
15:25 28/7/2003
ps. we have played u btw :)
hardly the same [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
15:25 28/7/2003
yeah i got mixed up hence i just said, with lastchance [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
a1ex^
15:32 28/7/2003
im glad no-one has responded to my previous post, guess they realised it is impossible trying to argue with genius.

http://www.sogamed.com/member.php?id=88685

hit me!

hi alex. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:42 28/7/2003
lol m0 i dont think its generally considered that greg i the most arrogant member of omg! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
15:42 28/7/2003
rofl. go a1ex [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
15:43 28/7/2003
Jesus alex, your making Toni & Guy a fortune! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vip
Online Multiplayer Gaming
15:56 28/7/2003
i fink if u met us or knew us in rl we arent arrogant at all, ask any of the teams we played at euskal. irc/ukt probably too easy to let things get out of control , i know i have been guilty of that many times. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
16:01 28/7/2003
youll find that with most ppl tho vip... weird why ppl are soo different online :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
16:03 28/7/2003
hope you aren't slaggin off toni and guy jon ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hairy
Rush!
16:05 28/7/2003
im saying nothing am i fox :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
16:19 28/7/2003
why make a comments section if people cant say what they want?

Follow the guidelines and your posts wont get deleted. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
16:46 28/7/2003
Is there a guideline about spelling deleted correctly ? :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
16:49 28/7/2003
yes =] thus i edit my post as not to look a fool.

nah there isn't really :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PFCalcio
THX
16:49 28/7/2003
hahah rank hath its priviledges. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroboy
fightclubclan
17:14 28/7/2003
thanks for the apology vip.

I stop labeling you all. So who can I label? craig, dart, vip and m0rph? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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