WCG UK Update

Posted by Myers at 16:51 21/7/2003.

Two things that need clearing up with regards to the upcoming UK World Cyber Games:

Firstly, despite several rumours, this event will be for UK citizens only, meaning that they must have a UK Passport. To quote one of the event organisers, Dominic Mulroy:

"The World Cyber Games UK qualifiers are for British Nationals with UK Passports, no foreign competitor in single player games or team events may take part at the event."

Secondly due to possible sponsor conflicts, teams will need permission if they wish to promote other organisations:

"any team or player that is sponsored, will need written permission from WCG UK organisers if they wish to promote a sponsor."

Those teams that have not yet signed up to compete at the UK WCG prequalifiers can do so here. The PreQualifiers take place on the 16th - 17th August at iGames UK centres across the country.

Comments

BrorJace
Online Multiplayer Gaming
16:55 21/7/2003
should be for uk residents tbh, not done on passports... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Flatt
16:56 21/7/2003
what if your 12 and don't have a passport? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
16:57 21/7/2003
So if dom is saying passports only, that means 4k are a bit f***ed?

Xenon is a resident, but i dont think he holds a british passport.....can you clarify if this is definitely the case? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
wishy
16:58 21/7/2003
we wont be seeing dh then [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
16:59 21/7/2003
i've been a british citizen for my whole 18 years, aint never had a passport though. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MagiciaN^
Jay Bee Eye!
17:02 21/7/2003
thats just cause no1 would let u into their country tho deebo ... so u dont need to travel

btw im on holiday 17th ...online quals? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
poly
The Bomb Squad
17:02 21/7/2003
thanks myers, aka mike skinner, aka the streets [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pande
17:02 21/7/2003
also is there a list somewhere of all confirmed entrys and at which centres? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
17:06 21/7/2003
yer that would be cool to know.

SA = coventry [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:06 21/7/2003
On the wcg website Pande. Though it is in a pretty obscure place. The information is never as straightforward as it could be or as easy to find as you'd like on there ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
17:07 21/7/2003
http://www.iguk.org/?a=wcgteam [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Baby_Joker
17:08 21/7/2003
I went to the venue with Sujoy in the week and its amazing. As for the passport rule its the main wcg body in korea that have enforced it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pande
17:08 21/7/2003
Cheers homes ;) cant attend now as i fly to the usa 2 days b4 hand ;'/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:10 21/7/2003
The passport rules are how it should be, and I hope the event lives up to expectations from players' points of view ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
17:11 21/7/2003
Greg, Xenon is a resident, but does not hold a passport. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
FELLA
17:17 21/7/2003
So does that mean he can play? I had this discussion with KD a few weeks ago when they recruited Dark ... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:20 21/7/2003
Dear Dorian Oldfield.

Thank you for your interest for WCG.

Let me answer your questions.

First, WCG is a national tournament. Therefore, if there is a player who doesn't have a UK passport in a team, that team would not be allowed to participate in UK premilinary, nor in Grand Final as a member of UK
national team.

Second question. In Grand Final, the players are not allowed to alter their rates via the consoles, as you know. But in preliminary case, the situation could be variable according to each country's condition. So, WCG
made a slight room for those who can't meet their net condition. Usually, the CS players wouldn't change their rates from max to other rate, I guess. For the past 2 years, WCG haven't got any kind of cl_cmdrate & cl_updaterrate problem from all over the world.

By the way, ex_interp rate is a fixed thing. You can't alter this rate in WCG preliminary nor in Grand Finals.

FYI : In Korea preliminary, WCG use WWCL config check plug-in, so that problem can't happen in Korea.

Sincerely yours,

Il-Ho Lee,

Global operation team,
International Cyber Marketing, Co., LTD.

This email would seem to say no [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
17:21 21/7/2003
The World Cyber Games UK qualifiers are for British Nationals with UK Passports, no foreign competitor in single player games or team events may take part at the event.
That's pretty clear really. No UK passport, no play. You can't really have an exception. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
17:21 21/7/2003
monkey magic could beat 4k without their foreigners. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
17:24 21/7/2003
mmm should be uk residents only really :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:27 21/7/2003
No it shouldn't, anymore than the olympics should be [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
17:28 21/7/2003
Just out of curiousity.. do the Irish have their own qualifiers? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KD
17:30 21/7/2003
They spoke with them about it a while ago and they said it was fine as he was a uk resident..they seem to have changed their minds :/

UK wont have any decent representation unless omg etc get some practice in :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
17:31 21/7/2003
were 4K even planning on going to qualify ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:31 21/7/2003
Or danfrag plays for 4k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
17:33 21/7/2003
details on the igames cup, the game.net tourney and who gets the wildcards? in newquay on holiday when the qualifers are on [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dustaz
Alert
17:33 21/7/2003
Scrappy - Unfortunatly not :(

Dont think theres any sponsors willing to do one. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Student
THX
17:33 21/7/2003
Seems to me like they want merc teams entering, they're certainly not gonna get the standard of clans that ESWC did by enforcing nationality on it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gryff
17:35 21/7/2003
4k automatically qualify for the uk lan qualifier in london as they won last time however they will need 5 uk players.

also interestingly the lan pre-qualifiers have 16 qualifying spots, currently only 25 teams are signed up.

There are also 3 wildcard entries which i assume will go to one/omg/lc. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
17:37 21/7/2003
thats wot i was finkin, dan mite cum back and play at the WCG in 4k, that way they can go and play and win [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
17:41 21/7/2003
u know what they say about assumption gryff? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scrappy
Sniper's Alley
17:43 21/7/2003
due to contractual agreements with SA DanFrag will not be playing for 4K. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:45 21/7/2003
They still have a full team, just means ShaQ has to play instead, right? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:46 21/7/2003
wright, shaq, liquid and lil are the English players; Xenon and dark aren't English. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
17:47 21/7/2003
monkey magic f***ed then, got no choice either way even if there was irish qualifers, smiffeh ravor and darkor aint irish... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:47 21/7/2003
ignore me.. didnt read the comments [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
17:48 21/7/2003
wright, shaq, liquid and lil are the English players

Wrights scottish mate? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
OverlordRob
Asylum.uk
17:48 21/7/2003
whos getting the auto berth then if it ent 4k? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
17:49 21/7/2003
im sure he meant uk! :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:49 21/7/2003
He means british i think :< [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
17:49 21/7/2003
lol, silly gryff. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:50 21/7/2003
It should be whoever came 2nd at the last qualifier to get autobirth, if 4k cant play [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Reevey
17:50 21/7/2003
Maybe Luck1ng will be back for 4k? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
17:51 21/7/2003
No doubt 4k will merc/recruit and compete. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gryff
17:51 21/7/2003
On another note whats the format for the pre-qualifiers and whats the map rotation? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
17:51 21/7/2003
im sure 4k will sort sumthing rob, they wouldnt want to miss their trip to korea :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Student
THX
17:52 21/7/2003
If they ask nicely I'll come out of retirement for em [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
17:54 21/7/2003
yeah they'll just get Danfrag back for a game no doubt...

Ripper: monkey magic could beat 4k without their foreigners.

Monkey Magic are from The Reublic of Ireland and hence aren't from the UK either and are ineligible. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
17:54 21/7/2003
yeah they'll just get Danfrag back for a game no doubt...

Ripper: monkey magic could beat 4k without their foreigners.

Monkey Magic are from The Republic of Ireland and hence aren't from the UK either and are ineligible. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ONE|Strikes
17:54 21/7/2003
dunno why everyone is so happy, its better when 4k come to Lan with a full team, whats the point winning when they are weak?
tbh lucking is still part of 4k, and i think if they know now that they wont be able to use Xenon some1 will be praccying with em.

gl :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
17:55 21/7/2003
ugh.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:55 21/7/2003
I agree with Strikes, besides i thought DanFrag had just gone afk or smth [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
17:56 21/7/2003
only way we could go to this if it became UK and Ireland qualifiers [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:56 21/7/2003
What Velta said ;-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
17:58 21/7/2003
Danfrag took "a back seat" or something. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
17:59 21/7/2003
[4K^Luck1ng]: I'll be going inactive with 4k as i do not have the time to fully commit to practices. My job is taking up all my time, which made me come to this decision. I will still be in 4k, and who knows, maybe i'll be back when i have more time =]
Scrappy you have a contract saying he cant leave or.. ? Just wondering. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
18:00 21/7/2003
hes playing for Snipers Alley at the moment [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:00 21/7/2003
nah he was being sarcastic :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SphericaL
18:01 21/7/2003
/me smacks Strikes stop making comments and go practise ONE are all UK PP holders ? free trip to korea gogogo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
18:02 21/7/2003
Just looking at wcg site, cos im well bored :P and i've noticed that Ireland don't even have qualifiers.. so there is no way an irish person can compete at the 'world' cyber games.

Although Ireland does have alot of LAN cafes, places like UAE, Panama, Kazakhstan and Chinese Taipei are all included in the qualifying process.

Completely out of order and unfair... plz some1 prove me wrong cos tbh its a disgrace if im right. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
18:03 21/7/2003
what about wales/scotland ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
w1cked^
Kirby-eSports
18:03 21/7/2003
Ireland/Scotland/Wales not being allowed to play in UK quals is just silly.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bodkin
2seXeh 2perfoRm
18:04 21/7/2003
LOL cobb u scouse. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:04 21/7/2003
Either have UK/Ire Qualifiers like CB do or UK Qualifiers and ireland Qualifiers. :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
18:05 21/7/2003
Cobb3h they are part of Britian and therefore scottish / welsh will have british passports. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arsen
Head Arse
UKTerrorist
18:05 21/7/2003
lol..there's no contract, but Dan has said he would play for us a WCG PreQuals...what will happen now remains to be seen... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:05 21/7/2003
lol you plonkers.... Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales are all part of the UK, The Republic of Ireland isn't..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kuki
18:05 21/7/2003
email them and ask them to consider changing it? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arsen
Head Arse
UKTerrorist
18:06 21/7/2003
and LOL at some people's Geography skills. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
18:06 21/7/2003
Tnx mat [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Choke|MaT
Choke
18:07 21/7/2003
np my scouse buddy ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cobbeh
fluid element
18:08 21/7/2003
hmm well neway, no point talkin about it much, the rules are the rules :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
silicon
18:13 21/7/2003
I was born in england, everything etc etc blah blah england.. english certificae, NI card etc etc.. but I don't have a passport (havn't needed one).. so I can't play then? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:14 21/7/2003
I have Polynesia passport. :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
18:15 21/7/2003
silicon if your quick enough you can get a passport sorted before the event. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Velta
Professional Gamer
18:16 21/7/2003
I remember a certain prank call to Doug from Oscar.. was that WCG Quals he was on about ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
18:17 21/7/2003
The passport thing is needed if your going korea, so I think that is when they will check it, not before. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loupy
18:17 21/7/2003
silly question, but why would any of you want to play in WCG quals where the winning prize is a trip to Korea (thats abroad btw) if you don't even have a passport???? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Psy^
xtreme9.uk
18:17 21/7/2003
Got it in 1 Loupy.

And Velta no, it was Intel [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
deebo
Mel Gibson
UKTerrorist
18:20 21/7/2003
I think the whole idea of it is, if you were to win the trip to korea, 'how can you go and represent the UK if your not FROM the UK...' [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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