MR 12 or MR 15 ?

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	Simmo 13:06 10/4/2003	MR 12 all the way :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked^ Kirby-eSports 13:09 10/4/2003	MR12 is good, less pressure on the pistol rnd [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Pande 13:10 10/4/2003	Yeh w1cked MATE [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	k!o 13:11 10/4/2003	retards? ^^^^^^ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked^ Kirby-eSports 13:11 10/4/2003	stfu [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	w1cked^ Kirby-eSports 13:14 10/4/2003	I ment MR15 ell oh ell. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zeke 13:17 10/4/2003	blatantly compromise MR13.5... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shuffler 13:17 10/4/2003	mp_timelimit 30 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 13:18 10/4/2003	Ill give it 6 months till someone mentions mr17 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirium 13:21 10/4/2003	Shouldnt this be a column instead Dev? >:) I reckon mr15 would be better, even though ive never played it before [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MadSpunk Last Chance 13:22 10/4/2003	hmm never played MR 15 before, might give it a go before I give my opinion ;o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:28 10/4/2003	see the priv forum dev [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:28 10/4/2003	pistols skill? they are too random, and alot of the time ineffective online, may the better registry win, and all that [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:29 10/4/2003	nah Fred, not long enough dude. Just adding my thoughts to the news that CPL may be going for mr15. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:29 10/4/2003	Geordie, LAN competition is the focus. Not online... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:30 10/4/2003	but u gotta practice online for offline. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:31 10/4/2003	yes but even now people may not win pistol rounds online and win them on lan. There is a huge difference between LAN and Online but like you said people have 2 practise online for lan events. So it surely doesnt matter either way in that argument? with mr12 OR mr15 you still have to practise online. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:31 10/4/2003	lan focus? then why post here o/ :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gryff 13:35 10/4/2003	mr15 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:36 10/4/2003	from a tournament organisers POV mr 12 is def better, from a player pov, opinions differ, however looking at some of the gotfrag comments saying changing to mr15 would give the europeans an advantage??? i don't quite see how. the co/mr arguments a few years back were interesting. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:37 10/4/2003	Yea Myers, i didn't see how it gave us an advantage either!? :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:37 10/4/2003	yawn [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:39 10/4/2003	Nice argument Ripper. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:39 10/4/2003	ripper i bet you're sitting there with your nose up, arms crossed, legs crossed frowning at the screen when u say 'yawn' u wannabe, and before u say something in caps, and a maybe a lol in it and my name, just think about how silly u look! :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 13:40 10/4/2003	what i reckon might be good is mr15 with 2 minute roundtime, making it more of a CO type game, which was usually nicer to watch [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:40 10/4/2003	i hate to say it, but geordie just owned ripper pretty bad :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Headshot^Man` Disturbed 13:41 10/4/2003	ive pld mr15 a couple of times recently, and its ok for example if one side is clearly better than the other yet the worse off side get a good pistol round, you can pull it back to like 12-3. Apart from that the games take too long, and if you save money well by about the 8th 9th round ecoing is not needed at all :[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:41 10/4/2003	yup im owned [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:42 10/4/2003	and i just got called a c**krocket in the ukt staff room, man its been a bad day so far! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St_George g30rg3h UKTerrorist 13:43 10/4/2003	interesting concept there marcus, maybe someone should test it? :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Purple 13:43 10/4/2003	I have a question. I understand that MR15 would put less emphasis on pistol round, but, If you play MR12 on 1 map you have 24 rounds If you play MR15 on 1 map you have 30 rounds, How does this lead to less draws? or am i just stupid? (do not answer that one) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:44 10/4/2003	quick get some teamuk pcws so u can feel important again! :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:44 10/4/2003	bitter? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:45 10/4/2003	looks like geordie's up for a flame war! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:45 10/4/2003	more rounds, more opporunity to pull away. If you look at the SEL results there have been hardly any draws compared to other LAN competitions or Online competitions that use mr12 where you get a lot of 12-12 games or on clanbase for example you have some 24-24. Not that draws are a bad thing, everyone lurvs some O.T :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 13:45 10/4/2003	MR12 with less random bulls*tery would be fine. MR15 with the way this wk game is atm would be better [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:46 10/4/2003	i seen a worthy comment that needed a good flaming, and u got it in the face, i dont discriminate! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:47 10/4/2003	oof, yep right in the face, that all you got? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 13:49 10/4/2003	If they wanna stop draws, they should have a single knife round for a game and count that toward final scores! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:49 10/4/2003	u actually want more? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 13:50 10/4/2003	doz u mean a knife round to decide teams and count towards the final scores? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dev theb0g 13:52 10/4/2003	his rentboys own him a lot harder than geo has Myers. This is like a light bondage session for rippsy. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 13:53 10/4/2003	you used to be good at this geordie :() [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 13:55 10/4/2003	Yes Myers. Then you'd always have an odd number of rounds played and no team would have any real disadvantage in the knife round [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:55 10/4/2003	sorry went for a crap, but its nice knowing u were sitting hittin refresh while i was giving the captain his sea burial, 'thinking of you' so to say! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 13:59 10/4/2003	mmm seems to have gone quieter than a day at kwik save without ripper :( the shelves.. dead god.. WHO WILL STACK THE SHELVES ?:(( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 14:00 10/4/2003	lol you've lost it mate [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 14:00 10/4/2003	dear* in my haste to type i seem to have hit the wrong key, im on 'THE VERGE' of break down [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 14:02 10/4/2003	omg! have warped you into a pathetic shadow of that person we once knew as Geordie ;-( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 14:03 10/4/2003	i actually blame it on the lack of being able to call people configgers anymore, its so 2 months ago :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 14:03 10/4/2003	lol..verge :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 14:03 10/4/2003	was a typo ffs [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 14:03 10/4/2003	and lets face it theres only so many times in one week u can flame hertz, unless you're rhyzz [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Otis Rush! 14:24 10/4/2003	Geordie's going for No.1 UKT poster award me thinks. Oh and MR15 = good and yeah i like marcus' idea of 2 min rounds. You would get less draws just because of the statistics of having more rounds, therefore less chance of getting that even score etc... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Zeke 14:32 10/4/2003	aye, theres more ways that the rounds can be distributed so the proportion of draws becomes less ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	teamx 14:32 10/4/2003	whats wrong with having a bit of pressure on the pistol round? if your gonna take that away we might aswell all start off with 5k :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 14:33 10/4/2003	say goodbye to 5 map pcw's [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 14:38 10/4/2003	Because it's too random atm teamx [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Callisto Game2XS 14:43 10/4/2003	mr0 imo... Go back to CO rules :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Headshot^Man` Disturbed 14:45 10/4/2003	5 mapper, bit much init :] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	St James 14:55 10/4/2003	mp_winlimit 100 =) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Greendude 14:58 10/4/2003	MR15. Never played it like. Seems to me though that the eco rounds can pretty much decide the outcome of the result in MR12. With MR15 it places less emphasis on these eco rounds even if you lose them, which is expected, so the added rounds still give you a chance to win. The main reason top euro clans seem to favour MR15 is because eco rounds are so 1 sided that they think the skill is taken out of the game cos at that level of competition whoever has the better weapon and armour will win. Even still I don't think it will change the outcome of matches that much. Less draws maybe but that's about it. The better team on the day will still win whether it's MR12 or MR15. Now here's a crazy thought. Exactly why is money even in the game? If everyone can just pick whatever they want then surely it makes it a much more level playing field. Skill would be the deciding factor. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RUDEBOY 15:01 10/4/2003	Better not just cos of less pressure but the more rounds contested = more precise the end result [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Gryff 15:03 10/4/2003	Maybe but it would take away the tactical element of eco and everyone could 5 man awp on aztec, it would make it s***. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 15:05 10/4/2003	ppl 5 man awp on aztec anyway [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RUDEBOY 15:09 10/4/2003	I imagine it will play out just the same, only there will be 3 extra rounds on the end [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RUDEBOY 15:11 10/4/2003	thing is u cant go into 2nd half level score - Psychological advantage :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ho3x 15:12 10/4/2003	stick mr12 tbh, cos it dont go on to long and if u pld like 2 maps over mr15 could be a while 60 rounds Oo (my maths is the win!) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	phonics 15:12 10/4/2003	charges only :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirium 15:14 10/4/2003	i like the idea of MR15 / 2min rounds :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Geordie Last Chance 15:18 10/4/2003	thats not saying much fred, considering u also like the idea of an elephant and its trainer, uncut [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 15:20 10/4/2003	Yeh or we could just go back to CO [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Jolleh Team56 15:23 10/4/2003	mr17... all the way! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 15:23 10/4/2003	For CO to work we'd need decent movement put back in. None of this retard jumping or constipated waddling for walking [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Demo conneXion 15:40 10/4/2003	what about using elite WCG UK rules like f***ing maxrounds 8 ! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirium 15:43 10/4/2003	wtf georide? freak :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Divvur 15:48 10/4/2003	Whats wrong with draws and close games? A 12 all game won in overtime or a 13-11 win is worth a thousand 17-7's. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	phonics 15:55 10/4/2003	the complaints are really more about a team getting lucky and possably getting 6 free rounds for 2 rounds of luck which when money is at stake could be a bit annoying for 'pros'. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Headshot^Man` Disturbed 15:59 10/4/2003	luck is a big part of the game though ;] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArk0r Infinity-eSports 16:21 10/4/2003	mr15 would be better i think :o mr12 is a bit short ;[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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