Games Fusion - The Conspiracy

Posted by Ripper at 09:49 18/3/2003.

Here's what was recently submitted to UKT:

Attention UKTerrorist:

I am writing to you as a member of the Counter-Strike Skinning community (CSS) in order to inform the Counter-Strike playing public of a great injustice that has been occurring over the past several months. The proprietor(s) of Games-Fusion (http://www.games-fusion.net/) have repeatedly used unauthorized content in their skin packs. Games-Fusion charges a membership fee for those who want to download these skin packs. This is content that was intended to be free. Games-Fusion profits from content that they have no permission to use, and worst of all, no credit has been given to the original authors.

In the past, Games-Fusion has used the excuse that the membership fee is to pay for their bandwidth costs, and that they would give credit to the original authors if they were given a list of the authors' names. We at CSS tried to cooperate, but to no avail. Our work continues to be used without any credit given. The fact that Games-Fusion charges people for our work enrages us further.

Every time we've tried to take action, Games-Fusion has shot us down. Recently, an incident occurred where an artist explicitly stated that their skin was not to be used by Games-Fusion. The readme file that was included with the skin stated: "GAMES-FUSION is not permitted to use this replacement in […] any way, shape, or form." Of course, not only did Games-Fusion use the replacement skin, but they didn't even give credit to any of the authors. Understandably, many of us in the skinning community were outraged and protested in their forums (http://forums.games-fusion.net/). Shortly after, they closed the forums down for "improvements."

Unfortunately, since we are hobbyists that do this for free, we don't have the resources to take legal action (and from my understanding of copyright law, legal action wouldn't be a far-fetched possibility). This is a sad situation indeed. Due to Games-Fusion's blatant disregard for the Counter-Strike skinning community, many CSS member have been suggesting that we keep our work inside the community and not release them to the public. If this were to happen, the amount and quality of skins available to the public would plummet.

We urge you to support our cause in boycotting the Games-Fusion skin packs. ALL of the skins in these packs can be downloaded for free from honest skin sites (such as CS nation and Counter Strike Center). Our attempts to stop Games-Fusion on our own have been unsuccessful; we must have massive support from the entire community, otherwise the only option we have is to keep our work exclusive to members of the CSS community. If you enjoy using replacement skins for Counter-Strike and want new skins to be available to you, please spread the word (feel free to post this message on your site, or email it to friends).

Thanks for your consideration,
CSS Member

Pretty sad, shame for all those dedidated skin creators out there.

Comments

fez
09:52 18/3/2003
lol unlucky games-fusion [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
arsen
Head Arse
UKTerrorist
09:54 18/3/2003
Why are they unlucky? If this is true, they deserve what's coming to them.... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fez
09:55 18/3/2003
it was a sarcastic unlucky u pansy assed sissy :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bean
funky monkey dealer
09:57 18/3/2003
shambles [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:13 18/3/2003
Surely a column? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
10:15 18/3/2003
I thought they sorted this ages ago?

I remember exactly the same problem with exactly the same website. And I could have sworn it was all worked out...

Silly Games-Fusion. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:23 18/3/2003
tiz quite lame tbh :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:23 18/3/2003
and err myers... whens next UKT Lan ??? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
10:24 18/3/2003
Maybe they should try contacting whoever hosts their webservers and report them for abuse. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:28 18/3/2003
Probably 5th april, hopefully i'll have the location confirmed tonight. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:28 18/3/2003
scandalous issue really :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:42 18/3/2003
haha, so CPX not interested then? :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:43 18/3/2003
What locations u considering?? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:43 18/3/2003
cpx is being sold as of 31st March 2003

Not gonna say what other locations we're considering atm. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:44 18/3/2003
errr omg? :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:45 18/3/2003
hmm..not sure how many ppl are meant to know that yet... ;p
shhhh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St00piD
Intrigue
10:46 18/3/2003
omg cpx!111 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:47 18/3/2003
I'm currently considering an alternative location in West London, however there are some complications. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
10:50 18/3/2003
vr lan in Bath gogogogo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:50 18/3/2003
oh cmon man whats the complication ? They want £6000 for facilities? :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:51 18/3/2003
already in the boiling pot smittins [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:53 18/3/2003
it's not a vga/igames cafe and it's not primarily a gaming cafe. However for just CS do the comps really have to be that great? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
10:55 18/3/2003
Noooooo you can't have one in London! Not while I'm still CS-less! :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:56 18/3/2003
northampton's just an hour's train journey from london really. Perhaps an hour and a half..i went up there with b0p last time and can't quite remember. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:57 18/3/2003
well u dont want s*** pc's do u :/ but like i can suggest a place :P get on irc coz its a pain in the arse posting on ere :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:58 18/3/2003
I'm at school = no irc...
post it on here and i'll delete it in a second. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
10:58 18/3/2003
yeah its about 2 hours on the train, thats from like sussex which is a lot further than most ppl gotta go, about 1 hour from london. If you cant get anywhere else u should just do it at the IT-Centre again :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:59 18/3/2003
gimme the name place and location and if it's a vga centre or not [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:02 18/3/2003
thx, funny u suggested that place, i'll chat to u on irc later :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Loxam
Lite
11:05 18/3/2003
Unicon in manchester gg :)

Skin pack news? Must be struggling atm :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
11:10 18/3/2003
k :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
11:10 18/3/2003
^^ unicon :> [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
11:16 18/3/2003
omg its aku! :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZaG
Online Multiplayer Gaming
11:38 18/3/2003
Stay on topic u muppets!! ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
11:43 18/3/2003
ok myers pal! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
l3ig2
Game2XS
11:49 18/3/2003
i was gonna go unicon, but just the past day or so something has sorted itself out in my life and i think im pretty much quitting CS. Although i dont want to but its a must for this other thing to work. Sorry :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
11:51 18/3/2003
she cant be that fit [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:53 18/3/2003
sorry to see u go d00d, take care [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sloop
11:58 18/3/2003
by coincidence i went to games fusion web site yesterday and dld the fusion pack out of boredom. not only did it change my home page (from UKT no less!!!!!!!) but the dust2 textures in it give u pretty much white walls tbh :D

wee pld [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:59 18/3/2003
I saw someone at i15 using that dust2 pack...it does seem a bit iffy... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
12:00 18/3/2003
tbh wtf does it matter what colour ure walls are ? :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
12:02 18/3/2003
white walls means u can see ur opponents easier :)...

We don't wanna turn into a load of q3 players now do we :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
akujii0r
Infinity-eSports
12:05 18/3/2003
wtf its b0p! :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mango
12:57 18/3/2003
That is f***ing sly of games-fusion, they are making money off the back of keyboard monkeys without their concent or even authors credit, is anyone else just like wtf? Surley thats a court case waiting to happen, all you skinners should chip together and get some legal advice. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil``
13:09 18/3/2003
Pretty s***ty that someone is charging for what is clearly someone elses work. But seriously people on the internet paying for stuff when did that start! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
meatyballs
13:17 18/3/2003
i just woke up cba to read all that s***, what's it say? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZaG
Online Multiplayer Gaming
13:28 18/3/2003
game-fusion are using other ppls skins without crediting them or asking for the authors permission, and are charging ppl to download them in a pack, when the authors made them for free basically [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
bop
Last Chance
13:46 18/3/2003
gays stole some skins which ppl made for free and then they started selling them without permision and err without crediting the authors :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kaidy
14:44 18/3/2003
ddos the c***s! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DooMeh
Lite
14:56 18/3/2003
go go unicon!

is using alternative skins banned in online leagues? I think it is in cb which only allow high fps models or the normal ones afaik, what about bwcsl etc? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pyroux
2seXeh 2perfoRm
15:16 18/3/2003
just hack the fkin website n nail the c***s, man im sure them skinning lil skinny geeks skinners know some other geek0's to help them...

hey b0p hows ur face? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aaron
16:03 18/3/2003
what sort of fool would pay to download skins if u can get them for free anyway :-s [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
16:12 18/3/2003
LOL MAN PROPER SAFE ehehehehhehhehehehe! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
t0m
17:06 18/3/2003
unicon !! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Wolfie
WanadooWolfie
17:30 18/3/2003
well, at least the people paying are getting quality skins, but i think that contacting their web hoster would be a good idea, just say they are selling copywrited material without the consent of the authers/scripts/designers.
gogo CSS community :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kuurus
18:16 18/3/2003
northampton is walking distance. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hedge
18:17 18/3/2003
If this were to happen, the amount and quality of skins available to the public would plummet.

THANK f***!!

Games Fusion you will be the #1 site on the net if u can get rid of the "CSS" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kirium
18:44 18/3/2003
sounds like Games-Fusion are c***s! not that ive ever heard of them, nor css :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Del`
Sniper's Alley
19:00 18/3/2003
Northampton isn't that easy to get to, it's only got 1 rail line through it, I'd have to change trains at least 3 times to get there, and I only live 1 hours drive away. Near impossible to get to by National express from most places without going through Heathrow too. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
19:52 18/3/2003
LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull LANinHull gogogogogogogo o/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom^
23:07 18/3/2003
i much prefer Northampton to Bath even though Northampton is a s***hole.

Bath is so f***ing hard to get to basically, by road. Northampton far easier. I realise trains to northampton suck though :P

is there a good centre in like birmingham?

I liked bath when we went there with the Kensai lads last weekend, the city was very nice if a bit hard to find a place which would serve the gltc kids :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:21 19/3/2003
ok should have a location for the next event confirmed by tonight [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
10:40 19/3/2003
lol, alpha was that really worth it? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dev
theb0g
10:50 19/3/2003
hurry up Myers... the anticipation killing me >:) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
13:37 19/3/2003
quick post it on sogamed, games-fusion will be crying so much [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:00 19/3/2003
i know where the location will probably be...just need to phone dom and confirm it tonight. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:25 19/3/2003
i prefer Bath cos its 5 minutes away from me and for that reason alone, cos otherwise its s*** :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
13:38 20/3/2003
Need to check with Bath on how many teams they can hold. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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