World Cyber Games UK - Qualification

Posted by Myers at 14:47 15/9/2002.

A slightly altered tournament format has been decided upon for the Samsung World Cyber Games UK. Taken from the WCG UK website:
"The Counter-Strike tournament management is a little more complex due to the sheer number of teams wanting to take part! The grand final will take place over two separate days, so please read the information carefully.

There are four fully berthed teams that do not need to qualify. Infinity-eSports and Clan One receive berths for their distinguishing performances at the last VGA tournament. Also two VGA national league teams will receive berths (TBA). These four teams do not need to take part on Saturday, instead they should arrive on Sunday 6 October 2002 morning at 9am.

The blueyonder online CS WCG qualifier will produce an online Counter-Strike winner. This team also only needs to arrive on Sunday 6 October 2002 morning at 9am to take part.

There are offline VGA Gaming Centre qualifiers also take place on this coming Saturday. Winners from VGA gaming centres need to come to the grand final on Saturday 5 October 9am for a gaming centre playoff. Regional winners will play in a tournament bracket of their own to decide a champion team, and that team will win the right to take part on the Sunday 6 October 2002 CS Finals. They will also receive a hotel room to stay Saturday night in London.

All other teams need to arrive on Saturday 5 October at 9am to try and win the last Counter-Strike finals place. All of these teams will be entered into a tournament bracket and the winner will receive the right to take part on the Sunday 6 October 2002 CS Finals. They will also receive a hotel room to stay Saturday night in London."
With over £30,000 worth of Samsung goodies to be won not to mention an expenses paid trip to Korea, this event is going to be intense. Visit #wcg-uk on quakenet if you have any questions.

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Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
15:23 15/9/2002
quality prizes or what? :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
16:01 15/9/2002
"two VGA national league teams will receive berths (TBA)."

Means what? Sorry, don't follow VGA stuff much. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
16:06 15/9/2002
Theres a league between all the VGA centres and I guess the top 2 teams will get auto-berth's [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
16:09 15/9/2002
Ah I see. Pretty cool. GL to all involved. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Raider^
16:59 15/9/2002
go ui go ui go [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
zeNi
formidable
18:27 15/9/2002
So, correct me if i'm wrong, on sunday the competiton will be bewteen 7 teams?

I-eS
ONE
VGA League Team1
VGA League Team2
BY Online Winner
Winner of VGA Gaming Centre Bracket on Saturday
Winner of VGA Free For All Bracket on Saturday [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
18:28 15/9/2002
woo, unless someone decides to let me play for them on saturday, i'll be annoying myers on sunday! 0wnage. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
LordOfBlood
18:35 15/9/2002
Yeah zeni it is like that :o

LoB [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Raider^
19:28 15/9/2002
hold up two seconds. Previous VGA event.....the last vga event was the last league finals surely? Can we clarify which event this is they are talking about? Thx [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aardvark
theb0g
19:29 15/9/2002
A thought occurs...

The teams that put the effort in to win their LAN qualifiers get LESS priority than those that turn up on the day, AND those that play in the online tourney?

The LAN centre winners will in effect have to play an extra leg of matches to qualify (the LAN quals) rather than just turn up at the free for all, which stands to have less quality teams than the centre winners bracket.

Am I right, or is there some method to this apparent madness? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Blackbelt
19:55 15/9/2002
so easiler to go on day and win ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
20:13 15/9/2002
if u win at lan centre i think you get a payed trip to london though :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
20:13 15/9/2002
and Raider, last VGA event would be CPL quals wouldn't it ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
20:14 15/9/2002
I guess that means sunday tournament will be a double elimination tournament. Or with only 7 teams, they could even do a league, where every1 plays every1, depending on how many pc's they have. Though i do know they have a very large tournament area, so it could be possible. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
20:22 15/9/2002
there will be 8 teams, i just know it! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
21:15 15/9/2002
wot a load of pap, why do they want to complicate things like this? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
21:20 15/9/2002
i say we all attack them with spoons [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
21:37 15/9/2002
And talcum powder [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
21:39 15/9/2002
and horse drawn penis's ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
St_George
g30rg3h
UKTerrorist
21:49 15/9/2002
there's always one who has to take it too far isn't there :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kronikal
Anti-Climax
21:54 15/9/2002
I apologise..
I was in the wrong.. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
LordOfBlood
22:11 15/9/2002
rofl [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
23:14 15/9/2002
sick f***s [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
23:28 15/9/2002
says the person who drew the f***ed up ui family tree [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
23:39 15/9/2002
Sounds good. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
23:40 15/9/2002
Sounds like the biggest tournament (in terms of number of teams) ever held in the UK. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
23:40 15/9/2002
Aardvark, the people who pre-qualify will miss the morning qualification, and will play in a play-off with all the other Centre winners. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
23:48 15/9/2002
My clan e2 will be travelling to Fragz LAN Centre in Solihull this coming Saturday to compete in the Pre-Quals. If we win that, we will go into the Saturday play-offs in London against all the other winners from pre-quals.

If we dont win it, that means we have to try and qualify again, in the morning of Saturday [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
23:51 15/9/2002
I dont think there are two VGA League clans?

"There are offline VGA Gaming Centre qualifiers also take place on this coming Saturday. Winners from VGA gaming centres need to come to the grand final on Saturday 5 October 9am for a gaming centre playoff. Regional winners will play in a tournament bracket of their own to decide a champion team, and that team will win the right to take part on the Sunday 6 October 2002 CS Finals. They will also receive a hotel room to stay Saturday night in London."

Thats just 1. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
23:55 15/9/2002
"Also two VGA national league teams will receive berths"

I think there are :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
23:57 15/9/2002
Lesson to be learnt. Clarity is everything. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
00:00 16/9/2002
Also never bunk off English lessons [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:03 16/9/2002
Oh.. s***.. misunderstand... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:04 16/9/2002
ing..

(its late) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
00:04 16/9/2002
stood* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:04 16/9/2002
rofl, this is almot as quick as IRC [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
00:04 16/9/2002
-stood* too =] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
00:04 16/9/2002
lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:05 16/9/2002
Ok so e2 falls into either:

Winner of VGA Gaming Centre Bracket on Saturday
Winner of VGA Free For All Bracket on Saturday

Depending on whether we win our pre-qualifier [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aardvark
theb0g
00:08 16/9/2002
Mathieu, my point is you effectively have to qualify twice, and take a harder route at that.

Scenario:

SO19 win our LAN centre qual. That puts us in the bracket with all the other centre winners. Clan X who we beat in the qual decide to go on the day and qual with the other on the day people in the free for all bracket.

SO19 lose out to another LAN qualifier, and bear in mind that the winners of the LAN quals will be good clans, potentially a LOT of top clans will be fighting for one place.

Clan X go on to win the free for all, which has a lower overall standard of clans taking part, as the top clans will all have played in the LAN quals and be fighting it out seperately.

Its like double elimination, only once you drop into the losers bracket you can just keep going in the 'weaker' half of the competition, without having to play a decider.

I suggest it would be better to 'merge' the free for all with the qualified LAN teams at some point, similar to the way CPL deals with autoberthed clans. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:16 16/9/2002
Yea i know, but i would think it was the same. Imagine how many clans are just gonna turn up? you will end up probably having to play the same amount of games. I dunno we'll wait and see, but i can see your point clearly. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aardvark
theb0g
00:19 16/9/2002
Same amount of games maybe, but remember the winners have to play the other winnes, hence HARDER games. The free for all will potentially be minus 16 top teams who are busy knocking each other out of the comp. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
00:29 16/9/2002
Possibly, we'll see heh :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
emfive
00:42 16/9/2002
Dosn't matter who you play, surely to come first means you've beaten the best anyway? I'm not looking at the prizes now but I though CS second prize was only everglide mousemats(?), or thats possibly third. Participating and giving people good games is the main thing as its pretty obvious whos going to fly to korea at the end of it all. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
00:57 16/9/2002
everyone's confused me even more than i was when i read the f***ing news post. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
01:08 16/9/2002
Yeah I-eS will go to Korea but its all abou taking part and meeting the people. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tep0r
09:16 16/9/2002
according to Sujoy there's 6 teams, on the saturday there will be some sort of knockout from what i've understood, where the qualified teams get seeded, and the ones that just turn up dont, this will result in one winner which then goes through to the finals

That's what I gathered from talking to Sujoy anyway, who / what's right I dunno
/me runs off scared [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
10:32 16/9/2002
Sujoy will be right. I guess that makes sence?
Saturday there is a qualifying tournament between the lan winners and the people who turn up. In this tournament the lan winners get seeded. As there's meant to be 6 teams on the sunday, i guess the 2 finalists proceed to the sunday.

With only 6 teams they could do a league format with every1 playing 5 games against each other. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tep0r
12:11 16/9/2002
thats like 30 games, are you insane? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mathieu
12:12 16/9/2002
Yes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
13:34 16/9/2002
It's actually 15 games. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tep0r
14:00 16/9/2002
show me the maths :[ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tep0r
14:05 16/9/2002
nm u win :[
mr educated [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:54 16/9/2002
5+4+3+2+1 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
15:32 16/9/2002
shocking tep [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tep0r
16:49 16/9/2002
shut it you [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
19:16 16/9/2002
f***ing hpb's, you're not allowed to talk back [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[ONE]-BL
20:36 17/9/2002
sounds confusing thank feck for autoberth :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
23:33 17/9/2002
you've earned it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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