Xs Explains

Posted by Ripper at 15:48 10/9/2002.

Xs of iLLuminati has written an lengthy explanation of what took place at GDOC. It comes as a text file, here's a snippet:
"My names Sam, better known as Xs and am writing this to tell the full story of the gamesdomain match vs. Infinity-eSports before all the Chinese whispers keep escalating into ‘omfg Xs installed ogc at LAN’ or some bo**ocks along those lines."
Download the file here.

Comments

ONE|Strikes
15:58 10/9/2002
gg sam dont worry s*** things happen, better luck next LAN dude nice to meet u and the iLLu guys they where all sound [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
15:58 10/9/2002
..... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:58 10/9/2002
ooo er :o

very different account of what happened compared with what has been plastered around irc etc [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
15:58 10/9/2002
hopefully this can set the record straight [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
15:59 10/9/2002
hassanYEH! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kaids
16:01 10/9/2002
.... paragraphs ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dino^
16:06 10/9/2002
appoligies anyone ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
16:13 10/9/2002
i didnt say a thing, was ul what happened to him, could of happened to anyone [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
16:13 10/9/2002
hope to see them at wcg [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
16:15 10/9/2002
Sorry xs, tbh i thought you just played crap, now i see why. UL. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fox
ClanNEW
16:16 10/9/2002
who'd used that pc before xs? Monst ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fEN
16:17 10/9/2002
Yeh, sympathies to Xs/iLLu, v.unlucky... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
16:24 10/9/2002
i have to agree, the pc's were f***ed the 2nd day, we got screwed over against ONE, bit like how Xs did [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
16:27 10/9/2002
the gui the admins used really wasn't the best choice

it kept resetting stuff and didn't have all the options required

only way around it was to write everything in ur config.cfg and set it to read only as we did for our final two games [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ONE|Strikes
16:30 10/9/2002
what do u mean Screwed over against us? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MiG-
16:34 10/9/2002
I remember u getting a restart tho Marcus, apart from that, the GUI was crap and took ages to setup everytime i Esc'd [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
16:36 10/9/2002
would of been better if the admin didnt rr our game vs one:( but thats not the excuse they out played us [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
16:42 10/9/2002
Dino m8, thx 4 the support you is the sexiest leprachaun in all of ireland.

/me fluffles etc [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gr4v1ty
16:43 10/9/2002
Gamesdomain = bt run company :( you should have known somet would f*** up :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
16:45 10/9/2002
omfg Xs installed ogc at LAN’ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ripper
Rush!
16:52 10/9/2002
gl to illu and xs in the future [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
16:58 10/9/2002
omfg no 1 posted up my report?

Ok ill sum it up here then,

a la roy keane, "f***off u c***s!" :P

except 4 sexy Dino and every1 else who supported us

Thx fellas ;x;x;x;x;x;x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[6K^B!tch]
17:01 10/9/2002
Sean told me to post this :P

We had loads of fun too, our first lan, we had at my house, with myself Sean([6k^]MadSpunk) + Zac([6k^R3lish]), we went out and bought a hub, we were going to PCWorld but we couldn't be arsed and got some s***ty 10mb/s 5 port hub, took me 12 hours to set up our PCs, which was slightly shameful, the problem being Zac had a spare network card but he didnt know it, so we had some conflict which caused him to lag like a b***h, luckily on the 2nd day it only took me 5 mins to set the lan up,
the next time we lanned, myself, Sean and Zac spent 3 hours putting tactics on to some print outs of CS2D maps sean had made and eventually Ryan([6k^]FaceJam) and a friend of the clan (G!R.Lumleh) arrived from newcastle with their PCs, we set up a 5 man lan but stupid me had only enuff tables / chairs for 4, so I ended up sitting on the sofa lol :P
ah the fun, on the saturday we went to the WCG qualifiers and to our surprise 4Kings were there, none of them had gun models, but my friends said they were tweaking their FPS, I didn't speak to them personally but sean said they were amicable guys, I looked back for them and they had disappeared, they'd all gone to the toilet and they came out with smiles on their faces, this has left me bemused for years :P
the timetables were up and we took a look, 'm0o' now who the f*** are m0o says us, they must be s***, the map was dust, our worst map and we dredded it, we had to wait 2/3 hrs for the start, eventually we sat down and configurred our keys, at this time we didn't know about ex_interp, which we have set to default, we set our rate to 10000 cl_cmdrate 40 cl_updaterate 40, we thought these were the highest values u could get :P, but we weren't all along side each other, so we decided to move, got into the game and started playing, Zac had recently stopped using colour models, after we found em on him using punkbuster he explained he was given them at a lan to help identify enemies, it started off bad when Ryan had no defuse key and couldn't bind the key because he was too anxious and to top it off Zac shot his teammate for about 30 seconds, eventually killing him, because he couldn't tell them apart from the Ts :P
that night though we had fun, played a clan war with 4 of us lanned up and won, the guys played into the early hours and had dinner at mine the next day, everyone left a bit miserable we'd lost the first match at the lan but happy we'd all lanned up and met each other.

So as u can see, we've also had similar problems :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
unnamed
17:06 10/9/2002
excuses excuses u tried to load ur hax cfg and got caught bottom line [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
MadSpunk
Last Chance
17:07 10/9/2002
yeah we owned that lan 2 years ago.... anyway s*** happens. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dino^
17:08 10/9/2002
[=<CAS>=]NightHawK :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
#omg craig
17:13 10/9/2002
gui was fine for me, all i did was plug in my mouse install drivers restart define controls and play, i guess i musta been lucky with the comps i got :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
17:24 10/9/2002
i supported u aiman! :) tho i did makes sum jokes about sam :P aiman i love u, aiman i need u! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
17:31 10/9/2002
/me flashes b00bs at rD

Pop into the iLLu chan n msg me when u can mate
like to chat to j00

;x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
tiSSue
17:53 10/9/2002
i put my willy in a letterbox once [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
17:54 10/9/2002
gl illu [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
18:04 10/9/2002
cheat sam [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
meatyballs
18:07 10/9/2002
did xs really install ogc at lan? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dino^
18:12 10/9/2002
yer :( LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AdaM
18:17 10/9/2002
tom.. idiot [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dino^
18:19 10/9/2002
tom roxsors your boxsors [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kirium
18:24 10/9/2002
This is what makes the uk community so crap I tell ya, full of cheats who install ogc on lans. Can't play fair can ya!

*not impressed* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Wishy2
18:33 10/9/2002
I love ill ans hassan they Love me back .. i hope :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Pen
18:57 10/9/2002
http://stu.lian.li/team.jpg

4those interested, theres liq, dart, myers, lil, luck1ng, darth & grim [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obi
Clan ONE
19:05 10/9/2002
ignore the flamers sam and just try and prove yourself at the next lan, you know what really happened so who gives a s*** if people choose to not believe you. Hope to see you @ WCG Quals, you're a nice bunch of lads [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vip
19:07 10/9/2002
fair enough explanation, i know wot its like when the hardware f***s u over kinda unfair but hey its only a game. GOOD LUCK MY XSIGGA [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fuse-
19:07 10/9/2002
rofl how are myers and lil. pictured them looking older than that [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
19:18 10/9/2002
both 17 ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
19:20 10/9/2002
Just wanna say extremely well pld to clan ONE, i
watched the 1st game u were all a bit shaky but still managed to overcome the early nerves.

I wanted to watch u guys go all the way but with all that happened there was no point in staying.

Again wp and a super bunch of lads.

At least they saw em pwn matt hoffman! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Spr
19:27 10/9/2002
more importantly, whys myers clutching his garbage? :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ben-
19:30 10/9/2002
Well thats BT for you Xs m8 :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
19:33 10/9/2002
gl hf - the positive thing to take from the lan was the performances of SiN and mig they were good. I just saw the demo of SiN play and he was really hot with awm. I'll be lookin to play u lads on lan next time.

gl for next lan [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
19:56 10/9/2002
I dont remember much about the game.

I remember having a good pistol round, but thats about it.

Wheres the demo at? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
20:03 10/9/2002
ftp://ftp.gamesdomain.co.uk/pub/games/gdoc/CS/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiN
20:09 10/9/2002
and thx 4 the complement m0rph :)

Always thought u were pretty good urself ;x

Didnt know who u were at lan tho, come say hi next time, i promise i wont bite, unless ur an admin of course :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
20:19 10/9/2002
no in-eyes? :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CuCuCulexus
20:51 10/9/2002
my names in the text.. LOL im well famous, thanks Xs.

Mag8 for next GDOC. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CuCuCulexus
20:51 10/9/2002
spectating or competing either way [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Vertakill
20:53 10/9/2002
Thats pretty gay :
Its hard enough it being your first major LAN without that sort of thing happening :|

Kakei told me most of this neways..
Unlucky m8, hope to be @ a LAN with u sometime soon :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fcc-|-bob
22:08 10/9/2002
Yeah sounds crap

Same thing happened to me at my local lan, my controls just went crazy, and i couldnt change them (mind u it was funny jumping when trying to zoom awp =) ) shame really would of been good to see how u guys would of done.

I can beat that was the most stressfull few days [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smiffeh
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
22:28 10/9/2002
its all lies, he cheats :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil^
01:13 11/9/2002
Seems like most ppl are willing to take this at face value. Ive had hardware problems at LANs, it happens you learn from it and move on. Its a shame but s*** happens eh. As far as the execing whateverthef***.cfg apperaing in console it still sounds dogey to me. Horus (if it was indeed him) isnt an idiot and id like to hear his version of events tbh, cos lets face it everything like this comes out with a bit of spin on it.

GL at WCG btw, thats coming up very soon so its a chance to shut people like me up once and for all. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
unnamed
03:23 11/9/2002
hi? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
umm
03:39 11/9/2002
Hi :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
unnamed
03:39 11/9/2002
what do you want? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
umm
03:41 11/9/2002
For you to be my number 1
:] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
unnamed
03:41 11/9/2002
k [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slider-
04:24 11/9/2002
Give the guy a break.
You gotta be pretty stupid to even attempt to put hacks on at a lan event, cuz your bound to get caught.
You gotta be even more brain-dead to activate hacks whilst an admin is standing 2 feet behind you, watching your every move.
Im sure all the teams that attended the GD lan were top level teams, who wanted to have a laugh. So why cheat? I dont buy for a second that he used hacks. I mean online its risky, but you can get away with it, but on a lan? what crap! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CuCuCulexus
18:42 11/9/2002
if i was too play at WCG i would do it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nx
19:00 11/9/2002
its Sam at the end of the day and if you dont no the guy then dont flame him please :)

gg iLLu saw the demos and i think the GDLAn finnals where abit unorganised. gl to all iLLu
also speical thanx to
esspicaly Xs (sam) for giving me a chance. (he nos what i mean :P) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
22:23 11/9/2002
I dont know saddam hussain and i flame him and the lan finals werent badly organsed - if u werent at the lan dont flame [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
11:24 12/9/2002
that's like completely different to what everyone else at the lan was saying, so you can't really blame other people for going on what the other laners said when you don't even just post a quick sumup of what 'really' happened yourself to prove them wrong, i mean this is 3 days after gdoc and the thread that started all the "rumours"...

if it is true then very ul (sounds worse than lanarena... and that was f***ing appalling), but i'd still like to hear horus' side of the story before i would believe u 100% [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m0rph
Infinity-eSports
22:24 12/9/2002
shads u peen the lan was fine just mouse accel was a bit of a c**kpube :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
02:40 13/9/2002
according to XS... mouse accel, short setup times, dodgy keyboards, *major* delays in game times, GUI aliases not working for walk/run ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
02:40 13/9/2002
:/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Horus
11:15 13/9/2002
Just for the record, there was no "dan.cfg", that was a verbal slip I made when Illu started throwing a tantrum after this kicked off. If there hadn't been toys flying out of the pram everywhere distracting me, the word "Dan" would never have been mentioned.

After being warned for using the console once and having the CPL default config re-enabled, XS was hiding his monitor screen with his tactics sheet when I came back 5 minutes later. I asked him what he was hiding, pulled his tactics sheet away from the monitor, and saw something along the lines of "Sam's Script Executing" echoing to the console on server-join.

He was the first person using that PC since it had had the default CPL config installed on it at about 8:30 that morning. His name is Sam. He was hiding the monitor screen with his tactics sheet, hands trembling, as I came up and stood behind him. He had a "deny everything" policy, obviously, but some people are just bad liars.

I don't for one minute believe he was installing anything like OGC, but he was running his own config after having been told twice not to. He's lucky I didn't disqualify him on the spot, but instead let him redo his config.

The whole thing about Illu not realising the match had started is also, shall we say... dubious. XS spent so long f***ing about trying to redo his config, that I think a "let's f*** about and say we didn't realise it's started" tactic was decided upon.

Even if it wasn't, the head admin standing next to them with a large microphone saying "Go on second restart" was a bit of a clue. They certainly seemed anxious enough for XS to rejoin the server and help them out at the start of the game...

I didn't bother searching the PC for the cfg he was using, because I was trying to get him in game as quickly as legally possible (given his team was playing a man down), and he's not stupid enough to have left it on the PC.

Anyway, I'd rather let this one die out, but these are the facts, not what XS wrote in his little word doc. Like I said, he wasn't "cheating" in a traditional CS way, he was trying to circumvent the rules of the tournament by running his own script. He got caught. End of story. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
15:13 13/9/2002
finally. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
15:26 13/9/2002
so xs lies again [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
munk
15:26 13/9/2002
pld horus [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Baal0r
15:29 13/9/2002
*sniff* I smell pwnage pie ... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:30 13/9/2002
omfg Xs installed ogc at LAN [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil^
15:54 13/9/2002
Hes guilty as sin then isnt he... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Obz
15:54 13/9/2002
mwwwaaaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahha [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Scara
North & South
17:43 13/9/2002
Obviously he used the infamous 'samscript' on Saturday night vs us and he was still s***e :E

pld horus :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
spaz
theb0g
17:51 13/9/2002
tbh, i've not commented on this so far. I think im right in saying ROFL Xs, I enjoyed our first game at GDOC, but Horus has just put a rather large spanner in your works. gg! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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