Guide to Fighting OGC

Posted by Fluke at 10:30 19/8/2002.

Until Valve's Anti-cheat is updated to catch all versions of OGC (see the below news-post), United Admins have written a guide to fighting OGC which is recommended reading for all server admins:
"OGC, one of the most popular cheats around for Half-Life, has been in constant development for quite some time now. Because it's actively developed, this cheat has been able to avoid VAC and HLGuard with quick release cycles. Even as HLGuard and the VAC mature, so does OGC find new ways to implement it's features. Even with this battle, there are some things you can do to render some, if not all, features useless on your server(s). Here's a list to help you in your fight against OGC users:

1. Enable VAC
2. Install and Implement HLGuard
3. Setting mp_footsteps to 0"
The listed suggestions are explained in more detail in the full article.

Comments

arma
11:37 19/8/2002
getting rid of footsteps? lmao [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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UKTerrorist
12:20 19/8/2002
fs, those ESP screenshtos they have are outrageous....cheatin fookas! grr [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rigante
12:27 19/8/2002
they get a minimap, can see where everyone is and yet still only manage to get scores of like 7-4...why even bother :o [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
13:20 19/8/2002
Umm .... hello? disable footsteps? are they totally, completely and utterly insane? I really don't think I would want to play on a server with footsteps disabled, and if all of them had it ... well, that's a mighty big change to the gameplay - far bigger than dropping walkspeed. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:23 19/8/2002
4. Set your mapcycle to cs_glassroom constantly so there's no walls to hack thru!!11

omg united admins = teh win!

*sigh* [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Dr_Evil^
13:51 19/8/2002
This is going to sound rather defetist, but there is no way Vavle can stop OGC in its current form. The Admin Mod anti wallhack seems to work quite well (unlike valves) by stopping the information server side it cannot be hacked.

However sound is a very different matter, the basic fact is all OGC does is take information like (in simple terms)

Player1 made a footstep at Pos(X,Y)

then show u on the screen where that position is. Unless you either make fake sounds (wont work because legitimate players will hear them) or make no sounds (mp_footsteps 0 which removes a GREAT deal of skill IMO) but things like gun sounds will still locate the player. A system to only send the sound information to players that can hear it would reduce the effective range of the hack but it would still work. tbh the sound hacks will probably be harder to put a stop to than the wallhacks. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hi!
15:06 19/8/2002
There is actually a version of OGC without any 'cheats', just nifty features like winamp control, HUD colour and irc. Personally i think this version (called OGC lite) should be allowed, because, it's actually quite good and doesn't give any in-game advantage. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
15:48 19/8/2002
should change its name though or it'll just be an endorsement of ogc [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grom-
15:51 19/8/2002
HLguard writers show their great understanding of the cs scene once again... Muppets.

Maybe their next piece of advice will be to load five instances of HLguard onto your server so it overloads it to such an extent that even aimbot bullets dont work - yay!

Only answer is to play with people you know or on LAN. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Keefe
16:12 19/8/2002
i'd rather play on a server with cheats than a server with the footsteps off =/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaKid
16:27 19/8/2002
agreed Keefe [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
18:16 19/8/2002
Take bans off at end of beta? Why?

So all server admins can do a Lithium?

And for those who don't know, doing a Lithium is:

Installing OGC 10 to test on your own VAC servers
Enjoying it
Then playing on Jolt, BW, and BY with the hacks on

And when you get banned you blame your cousin! GG WP! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
RandomNameGenerator
18:51 19/8/2002
Haha what a bunch of retards!

All that changes is we dont hear footsteps now wp! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
RandomNameGenerator
18:55 19/8/2002
Ive got a better solution.

How about a kick/ban happy admin on every server? Yeah!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
H
19:17 19/8/2002
"The guide" oyyy, and UA carnt even disable a cheat thats been out for 2 months, i wonder if VAC will do it, hmmm, doubt it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
09:51 20/8/2002
"Take bans off at end of beta? Why?

So all server admins can do a Lithium?

And for those who don't know, doing a Lithium is:

Installing OGC 10 to test on your own VAC servers
Enjoying it
Then playing on Jolt, BW, and BY with the hacks on

And when you get banned you blame your cousin! GG WP!"

lol link? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rogue1
10:16 20/8/2002
Oh yes... disabling footsteps... what a quality suggestion. I can see us using *that* one in BWCSL. Not...

I appreciate that some games work very well without footsteps, particularly the fast-and-bouncy fpses (and I remember all the objections to them in Q3 when it was released) but they're absolutely central to CS play and if you're going to remove them, then you may as well remove guns, grenades and the ability to see more than 6 inches in front of you as well.

On another note, it amuses (and pleases) me greatly to see the phrase "Doing a Lithium" in common use. :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
11:53 21/8/2002
If I could be arsed to search through logs I'd find the direct quotes, but this is how it went:

He came into #infinity-eservers and said "I just downloaded OGC10 to try on my servers the fooker works."

Couple of days later in #infinity-esports main room, he said "I've been banned from bw, jolt and blueyonder cos my cousin used ogc on there while he was staying here."

What a likely story! His cousin! Who obviously A) knew that OGC was installed and B) knew how to use it. And considering Lithium couldn't get inet access a while ago because he only had one pc, surely he must have watched his cousin play?

But of course, that's bulls***. He enjoyed escaping the anti cheat measures, and owning people by using OGC, because he is after all a s*** CS player. 1mbit cable isn't everything it seems.

I'm part of the fight to stop immorality in CS. Join me! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
13:26 21/8/2002
^ lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nick^
13:48 21/8/2002
It'd be funny if it wasn't true, as my good BW admin friend here proved. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
19:39 21/8/2002
loll n1 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
blah
20:04 21/8/2002
lol ah yes, good old Lithium, he is truely an idiot :)

Obviously a good arse licker tho as IeS work with him on IeServers ;p [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kae
09:47 22/8/2002
lmao... no footsteps... in 1.4 all you rely on is footsteps.. oh and spray. CS is gettin s***ter and s***ter by the day thanx to the gay jumping shinanigans and all the other crap... you cant even change guns within a minute... if they wanna make it more "REAL" then does it really make any difference to what gun you hav out while running you still carryin a fat ass hand cannon on your back... so whippin out your dagger will make you go so much faster! IM not supprised every1 is givin up... mm neways i dont see the point. BRING BACK 6.6 AND JUST FIGHT OGC AND GET SUM BH'in DE SKILLZ! Stop tryin to make cs better coz all there doin is makin it crap, you need no skill to play 1.4, all you need is a crouch button and a mouse1 gg wp n1. Oh i know lets make it more noobie friendly how about you intro a 1 hit kill tmp! GO VALVE! ok... iv gone off topic ill stfu now :l

gl with gcse's all
Love kae frm thailand! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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