Infinity-eSports Win Â£1000 In Thrustworld CS Ladder

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	Ripper Rush! 15:13 12/8/2002	it seems a bit pathetic lookin at it, kensai finished 4th by only winning 3 games and losing 10. Hopefully there will be better competition next season. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	NoToRiOuS 2 COOL 4 SKOOL UKTerrorist 15:17 12/8/2002	very true. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hates_ 15:32 12/8/2002	Well let's hope [PP] play in TW next season then! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 15:35 12/8/2002	it wasn't an insult hates, its just half the clans that claimed free entry into the ladder pld hardly any games, meaning the competition ended up being between like 5 clans. Perhaps the free entry offer shouldn't have been done, and then the clans who paid for their entry would actually bother with it. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 15:36 12/8/2002	or something [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hates_ 15:46 12/8/2002	Yeah I know Still be good to have [PP] in there!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Hates_ 15:47 12/8/2002	It will be good seeing how the ladder progresses with noc being in there now too... (Hates_ looks forward to being thrashed by them too...) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:28 12/8/2002	its just half the clans that claimed free entry into the ladder pld hardly any games I made about 20 challenges, 1 ended up being a game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 16:33 12/8/2002	We just asked teams for a game, then set it up through the TW system i think. Anyway, im glad we came out in first, despite twisted reality's "false wins" that kept appearing on their results page. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 16:34 12/8/2002	lame. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 16:48 12/8/2002	we finished 3rd purely because we had the balls to play i-es 3 times (all losses), where as tR played them once (loss), the ladder system is really easy to currupt so maybe TW will consider a different format for next season... if it happens. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 16:49 12/8/2002	perhaps change it to a league,<mouthfull> so every clan plays the same amount of matches and the same opponents the same amount of times </mouthfull> D: [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 17:05 12/8/2002	does it matter? online leagues will never work, and prize money is abit pointless. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 17:28 12/8/2002	online leagues would work if the decent teams would: a. show up to games b. not leave after a bad result [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 17:37 12/8/2002	exactly [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 17:43 12/8/2002	well, considering good teams could pretty much dick half the clans that beat them online at LAN, you can understand why. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DeF 17:48 12/8/2002	I totally agree with you guys when you say the TW ladder is a crap system, imo it should be more like a league with set matches every week so everyone gets to play everyone else. As far as Keefe and Dart callin us "dodgy" in one or more words =) lets not forget erm:cs getting some "friends" to sign as a clan a week before the end and playing them twice in two days to rack up the easy wins. Oh yeah and the fact i.es are sponsored by TW seems... convenient. Anyway not dissin either clan, they are great guys and v good teams. gg guys, love a bit of healthy competition cya next season in TW :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 17:59 12/8/2002	oh so i-es won it because their sponsored by thrustworld.... ofcourse, without that sponsor they'd stand no chance at all of winning it.... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DeF 18:03 12/8/2002	LoL i knew someone would think i meant it like that. Of course i:Es would win anyway. Maybe just a tactful business decison by TW. Just seems a strange situation to me. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 18:11 12/8/2002	tactful business decision in what way? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blackbelt 18:13 12/8/2002	The league was very dodgy , i-es deserved to win the league no doubt bout that but the ladder was run badly and it should be league not a ladder ! :\| [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fox ClanNEW 18:21 12/8/2002	The ladder was a bit of a mess first season, tR should have been kicked out imo for the cheating on the default wins. Incredibly they were allowed to stand as results at the end of competition. If more clans sign up then it could become worthwile but it seemed like you didn't get enough credit for winning games and were better off just losing 10 games to up your score. (kensai won 2 games less and lost 5 games more to finish above clannew) Prize money should be saved for leagues rather than ladders. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 18:41 12/8/2002	DeF, how can u try and put the fact you cheated with us being sponsored by TW? Yeah we're sponsored by TW, but in noway did we get any sort of advantage through being sponsored by them, like you did cheating. Anyway, feel lucky you got Â£500. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 18:46 12/8/2002	nice use of Ã‚ dart :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 18:46 12/8/2002	Yeh you so won cos your sponsored by TW [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Blackbelt 18:56 12/8/2002	DeF said that i-es still were going to win even if they werent sponsored by TW , read his 2nd comment, anyway cant say much bout us, what bout the erm situation. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Jay429 19:05 12/8/2002	:o g0t Relic.cs erm? :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DeF 19:06 12/8/2002	You guys misuderstood my comment. I:Es winning TW obviously has nothing to do with them being sponsored as they were the best team in the ladder and therefore deserved the Â£1000. i was just referring to TWs business tactics in sponsoring the clan who were favourites to win. I'd like to hear your views on the erm:cs situation as I don't see how that could be deemed "fair play" either. :D No flames plz, this is just an interesting discussion :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:08 12/8/2002	its the only reason and thats what u were saying hi im bored [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk 19:10 12/8/2002	i only pld in 2 games of TW for tR, the system was crap, and tbh I-eS = one of best teams in uk + europe and who else was gonna win the league anyway Yea there were a couple of false results but they was removed... thing is tho... when clans purposely dont play us because they do not wish to give away points because the "no named" clans are their buddies, and they also confirmed this in irc when we asked them and its quite obvious when u look on the list of clans the named clans joined pld their buddy clans and no one else... I dont wanna argue, i have much respect for erm cos they are really cool and i-es cos they are very very good. But if u want facts go and look on the team lists and check when the teams signed up and who they pld and how they wouldn't play us in order not to give away points to us. hope it all makes sense [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kappy 19:25 12/8/2002	did erm:cs even play TR and if they did, did they beat them? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ripper Rush! 19:26 12/8/2002	think they pld each other twice, both beat each other [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fox ClanNEW 19:29 12/8/2002	Yea there were a couple of false results but they was removed... 1 of the results was removed (the n1 "game"). 04/07/2002 Twisted:Reality 24 0 ClanNew Still stands dunno about the other default wins you'd have to ask the clans involved. Imagine the suprise on seeing the above result magically appear on the ladder. (whats the erm situation anyway) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Fluke Official Capybara Herder UKTerrorist 19:29 12/8/2002	i was just referring to TWs business tactics in sponsoring the clan who were favourites to win. Well good choice by TW then, surely? Say I was in a company that decided to sponsor a team and there was the possibility I would be setting up my own competition, who would I want to spend money on? The favourites to win or a clan who lost all their matches? Wow, tough decision. :D [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	fsk 21:07 12/8/2002	indeed was a good choice by TW i-es i'd say got the best chance to win next cpl and they deserve it more than everyone else. i couldnt care less abotu the 24-0 vs CLANNEW it went down as a default, and as far as i know I only knew u split like a month after it happened i wasnt in tR then anyway. As for the comment i made earlier, the clans know who they r who wouldnt play us and lets leave it at that, the league had dodgyness all the way thru and clans doing favours for others. I dont wanna go on about it as everyone in erm:cs i respect alot as they are a very good clan. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 23:25 12/8/2002	lol =/ well ok, first we played tR twice, first time they beat us 16-8, the game was 3v5 (we had 3), then towards the end we won 5v5. i like tR as a team, and i think that they simply used the rules to their benefit, i'm not blaming them, i'm just saying its a shoddy system to place that much money on /me ruffles DeF, Jay and BB [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 23:32 12/8/2002	i missed fsk D: /me fluffles fsk [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Rav0r 02:34 13/8/2002	No matt, we WHERE CHEATED. q [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads```` 02:42 14/8/2002	spanked botties all round [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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