The future of online gaming: Part 1

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	tiSSue 13:01 7/8/2002	nice one prayer! Love ya Ben :x [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wardio 13:02 7/8/2002	Played Prayer olde buddy olde pal [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 13:12 7/8/2002	Bar the gratuitous refernces to jcsl, that's suprisingly well written. Whatever next? Jolt servers actually becoming playable? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	arma 13:18 7/8/2002	lol [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 13:18 7/8/2002	actually the jolt servers are getting better, and the csl is shaping up rather well ;> [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Prayer 13:25 7/8/2002	ta =] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	tiSSue 14:10 7/8/2002	yer u go Luke! :P but erm yes! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RandomNameGenerator 15:18 7/8/2002	Well that stated the obvious in a retarded marketing lecture style fashion with all the same yawn pffffffffffttttttttttt [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil^ 15:29 7/8/2002	Not a bad article. But before any of this professionalism takes off surely we need the football equilivent of FIFA to set standard rules that everyone understands. Second online cheats (OGC or cfg) need to be stopped for good and thats not gonna happen in CS. Maybe in the next generation of games when the technology, gameplay and most of all the scene grows up. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 15:37 7/8/2002	well cheats could be thought of as drugs :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Heh 15:42 7/8/2002	Blueyonder are slowly replacing Jolt as the no-go areas of CS servers [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 15:44 7/8/2002	they replaced them along time ago [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 15:59 7/8/2002	uk2? :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	nazzz 16:15 7/8/2002	i like BY servers, usually a nice standard. i just dont like the poor adminning and sometimes the servers can be poor. i dont see how uk2/jolt can become more credible than BY [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 16:41 7/8/2002	dr evil, im pretty sure thats what the CPL are trying to do now? If valve took alot of the gay commands which give ppl big advantages out of cs, much like they did with walkspeed, then cs would be better online. That would sort most of the cfg problem out, cheats i dont think will ever be stopped, just like theyll never be stopped in other sports, youll always try and get players trying to gain a competitive edge..such as in athletics and cycling, but u musnt forget, in these sports cheats can slip through the net, at LAN they cant.. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	RandomNameGenerator 16:55 7/8/2002	[quote] but u musnt forget, in these sports cheats can slip through the net, at LAN they cant.. [/quote] are you 100% certain??? i seem to remember a few rumours going around shortly after ps2002. and surely LANs dont take random urine samples do they? did the CPL screen SK after they won CPL to see if they were clean? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil^ 17:00 7/8/2002	Yeah Iron, CPL are trying, but WCG play different rules. No boosting for example and the number of different rules that people play mean you never know what ur getting (all round count n00beh wars still go on ffs). Until there is one standard and ppl are loyal to clans 'pro gaming' wont happen. On the suject of sponsors I cannot imagine how any company gets any worthwhile exposure from gaming clans unless they are tied in with a net cafe and can advertise there too for example. Anyone shed any light on that? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	anonymous 17:05 7/8/2002	woo hoo anon posting is back flame away !!!!!!!!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DoZ Anti-saviour of UKT 17:37 7/8/2002	Depends on what the company wants. For people like Microsoft who're trying to get 5 "pro" gamers in the uk... it's a small fee for very targetted advertising of a well known company already. Any company can get their name known out there. It just depends on whether they expect that specific bit of advertising to bring in X amount of money, or if they want that to count to the advertising they run as a whole. If you have your name everywhere, even at lans, people are more likely to take notice. If you just have your name at lans and on a couple of websites, you're less likely to be noticed. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	a1ex 17:40 7/8/2002	mr 12 is standard. cpl sets the standard. ever hear of cfg validator ? dr.evil you dont have a clue what you are talking about, go play uk2. big companies like intel have money to burn, and people who own cafes and what not often see sponsoring a team as a hobbie. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	a1ex 17:47 7/8/2002	btw, who the fu<k is [CyRuS], browsing thru sogamed this chap seems to have an opinion on everything, yet none of them are worthwhile reading. it is clear he is a newbie and just regurgitates what more knowlegeable and respected people in the community say. you should spend more time trying to play the game at a high level, maybe you can get a grasp of what cs is all about, then comment and people will actually listen. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Smittins 18:30 7/8/2002	im sure that aint a1ex really, i dont remember him being such a .... ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	CyRus 18:37 7/8/2002	yes but mr12 is standard and tbh its took all the action out of the cpl. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil^ 18:38 7/8/2002	lol, welcome back Alex. As usual your really clued up, informative and witty. Let get on with it. CPL rules apply online do they now? 1) mr 12 is standard. 2) cpl sets the standard. 3) ever hear of cfg validator ? 1) MR 12 is standard at CPL. BW run a league with CO rules in some divisions, BY used a system that no one understands. Games Domain is using MR8 for a tournament and thats a money prize with finals on LAN. 2) CPL sets the standard for CPL and CAL. They jurisdiction goes that far alone. 3) Yes I have, but who says that anyone has to use it online. IF 'big companies like intel have money to burn' why couldnt NiP get them as a sponsor? In conclusion MR 12 is far from standard, CPLs rules dont apply outside of CPL and cfg checkers are pointless online. And thats alex alright, he will moan about me mispelling his name next and call me a noob again no doubt. Whats a good UK2 IP btw? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 18:39 7/8/2002	Dr evil ur talking about the internet? i was taking about LAN, cs and internet just wont work no matter what standards are introduced, even if you go down to the very basic levels you have things such as ping differences, lag problems, different isps...and this is before you get to the whole config and cheat + modification thing. Also randomname, the CPL probably didnt, because they wouldnt need 2, the console cannot be accessed, there is an admin wathcing the players while theyre in the tournament area at all times, and i dont think things such as floppy disks/cd roms which could contain the type of files that ur suggesting, would be allowed to be even taken into tournament areas. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil^ 18:49 7/8/2002	CS online would be fine if the anti cheat was good and the console commands that are needed were well documented and those that give unfair advantages were locked. Not ideal but a lot better than it is now. Yes ping differences etc are a problem but im sure most clans regard internet games as practise so thats not really a problem. Yes I was talking about online as well as LAN. But a LAN tournament going on soon will use MR8 and a custom map for the final as far as I know. How standard is that? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 18:53 7/8/2002	I think you forget 2, any clan thats whats to do any good at all in CS, will play what everybody else plays, or what they perceive to be the best..popular..most competitive rules, the people who play CO rules, like in BW, dont aim at being the worlds best, or the UKs best, and thats the same with the clans who play in the BYCS tournament. And in leagues like GD the rules are just made up by extremely misinformed people, most 'top' clans hate MR12 because its too random, and anything can happen on 1 map or if u win the pistol round blalbla, yet GD decide to make it even less than 12 rounds. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dr_Evil^ 18:58 7/8/2002	As usual the argument goes on to the elite. Im saying that everyone should be playing the same game at any level because 99.99% of people wont play at the top level. Pub football is played under the same rules as the world cup final, so why not CS? Yeah the GD tourney is f***ed up, but look at the clans in it cos of the money prize. http://www.gamesdomain.co.uk/multi/features/gdoc/schedules/cs_week08.txt Maybe see some of you at the LAN finals. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:28 7/8/2002	They only used MR8 cos they were low on time. The next game and the finals are MR12. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 20:31 7/8/2002	obsessive will get through to the finals. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	CyRus 21:14 7/8/2002	too many words!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	[ONE]-BL 21:31 7/8/2002	xtreme-iT , who the .... :DDDDD [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads```` 00:51 8/8/2002	good article, such a bad attempt at a gag to end on though ;( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 03:35 8/8/2002	hardly any of that is the writes work, hes re-wordered it from Mr Kills recent sogamed article, GG PRAYER [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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