Rigs And Rock Leave Nocturne

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	devoluter 15:24 6/6/2002	gl nocturne and rigs n rock [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	IES FAN 15:41 6/6/2002	LOL another one bites the dust hey, and they think they will beat ies? I would rather eat a hot steaming s*** than back NOC to beat ies. Cheerio ! LF [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	IES ROX DA WoRLD 15:44 6/6/2002	yes because being wrong about noc beating INFinITy-EspORTS would be so much worse than eating a hot steaming s***, ID LOSE aLL THE RESPEKT OF MY FEWLLOW GAMERS WHO THINK IM MAD AT PREdiCTions [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 15:51 6/6/2002	'No sooner had the ripples of KhAoS being removed from Nocturne spread than news comes that two more players from noc have left' You mean the founders/CL's/tacticians. More than just players Myers, being a player is the easy part. Building a successful clan (in any respect) is a tiring responsibilty. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 16:00 6/6/2002	While its a bad thing for the scene, I think it will be a good thing for them. Im sure they can find more happiness outside CS. good luck Sam n Chris finally you too saw the light ... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 16:08 6/6/2002	beginning of the end? :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:24 6/6/2002	No [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 16:28 6/6/2002	Just as i thought Chris was starting to play again... Gl guys, 2001 was a quality year spent with these guys in noc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:29 6/6/2002	Rock and Sam hadnt been very active recently tho had they....so I dont see this affecting Noc too much. To b honest, u I-ESFANS!!! should grow up a bit really. Why put a team down, UK scene will only improve when these people stop being so immature [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 16:30 6/6/2002	"No" good :-) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:31 6/6/2002	Only Chris has really been inactive, but recently started playing [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 16:34 6/6/2002	"You mean the founders/CL's/tacticians. More than just players Myers, being a player is the easy part. Building a successful clan (in any respect) is a tiring responsibilty" no-one's really that bothered if they're the founders, cl's tacticians etc...most people refer to those as players. Keep things very simple for the public. They did play for Noc and as such they can be classed as players. It sounds better too :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:43 6/6/2002	And LF your gonna look such a fool eating s*** [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Strikes\| 16:44 6/6/2002	that Mean Noc will be recruiting again now? what is the noc Line up atm?? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 16:46 6/6/2002	I'd like to see him eat s***, but sadly gotta do my best to make sure he doesnt :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:48 6/6/2002	You like to see ppl eat s*** Greg? wtf you freak :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 16:49 6/6/2002	heh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 16:50 6/6/2002	of course its sad that they've left, chris was the funniest guy i've ever known on voicecomms, but now cpl quals have been announced, and we have to change the team around, we can only improve. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Obz 16:58 6/6/2002	Bob leaves clan bing bong, Bill leeaves clan fishface... All we ever hear is this crap about these dumbasses leaving their clans after stupid arguments... lame lame lame! why dont you do some news on UK clans that arent totally l33t... but have stuck together through thick and thin.. I am avaliable for an interview whenever :D #7thorder [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 17:00 6/6/2002	Yeh they will be missed, not only for CS but for the way they made my time in noc fun and always a laugh. Like the trip to Korea was just so much better 'cos of these two, even though they kept waking me up at 4/5am :P gl guys [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 17:02 6/6/2002	They've been in noc.uk since the beginning, unlucky [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PHB 17:12 6/6/2002	Havn't noc and IeS been around as long as the oldest clans in the UK? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 17:12 6/6/2002	It seems that after 3 years as clan leader of the top UK CS clan has taken it's toll on Jonny 'TheGenius' Neffgen who has exclusively revealed to UKTerrorist that he's to retire from Infinity-esports. Mr. Neffgen had this to say about his retirement: Thats from your thread about The Genius leaving. So the 'Founders' of noc leaving is more appropriate. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 17:23 6/6/2002	I think after the initial shock of these twos deprature, things in noc can only get better, both in and out of game in noc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 17:47 6/6/2002	hope things are still good in the noc camp with the cpl quals comming up we need someone to give inf-es a run for it =/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 17:50 6/6/2002	jonny was more established and well known that these too and had led nr/b***h/4k/ies for like 3 yrs...not 1 yr. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:03 6/6/2002	I think cs-b and ukla are two of the oldest clans which kept the same name in uk cs. Ies is as old, but has changed name a few times, and noc (in the uk) isnt as old. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 18:16 6/6/2002	But noc and I-eS actually achieve things. I-eS whether name has changed or not, still goes back to the original beta of CS. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 18:35 6/6/2002	Myers = owned [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	arma 18:35 6/6/2002	[RONIN] have been about 2+ years :P but we suck so nvm :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 18:43 6/6/2002	Who is Clan Leader now? Messiah or Mike? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Strikes\| 18:56 6/6/2002	What nobady answer me? do i look like some kind of p30n? (dont answer that) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 18:57 6/6/2002	clan [SCEE] #scee beta 3. Not bad I think. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 19:13 6/6/2002	blatently Messiah, cuz mikes not around alot nemore. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dav^_^ 19:20 6/6/2002	gl with whatever u do Rock & Rigs!! P.S, DK the reason he only calls noc Rock/Rigs players is cus he doesnt bum them like he does Inf-eS [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 19:33 6/6/2002	lol i'm the manager of ies ffs [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 19:36 6/6/2002	not a player?? sure now..wanna get it clear your role! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	naz 19:39 6/6/2002	give myers a break fs, who cares how these guys are labelled? its not exactly important. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 19:48 6/6/2002	#kevlarkillers since beta 1 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:54 6/6/2002	and #BFTD [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:56 6/6/2002	Rhyzz is the leader [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 22:31 6/6/2002	DK why do u bother to try and point out mistakes i've made on nearly every post i make?. don't u have anything better to do..and when i was saying i was the manager i wasn't talking to u [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 23:29 6/6/2002	get better things to do dk! lol. I remember an old friend of mine joining SCEE ages ago, norweigan, called Lord_Griffin, remember him DK? :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Benji 23:34 6/6/2002	so much b***hing i despise cs tbh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Benji 23:34 6/6/2002	hehhe shush Rob DK has a point Myers sucks [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 00:06 7/6/2002	omg lord_griffon..yes i remember him, joined from an old clan like ADUK or something, then hardly ever turned up so I kicked him. Think he lasted about a week, not bad ;p Myers I don't point out every mistake you make. I do however notice your complete bias toward certain clans if you think it will get you something, anything, that might raise your reputation in UK CS scene. Maybe try playing the game, 'cos some of the s* you write amuses me. Your like an art critic whos only ever f*ing doodled on a scrap piece of paper. As a writer for the main UK CS site, your supposed to be neutral :) Or atleast try to make it look that way. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Alvin 00:49 7/6/2002	Typical cycle of cs players. Start playing cs, find its fun, play it a bit more than they should, get relativly good, join a good clan and do well. A few months to a year later they realise how s***e online gaming and cs is and realise how much time they've wasted playing it and want to start doing other things in "real life" instead. Quit cs and spend more time doing the things in life which matter, which sadly isnt sitting playing a game every free hour they have. Anyone can be good at good at cs sadly its just the more socially inept people that can prolong being good at it. Bye bye rigs, bye bye rock, gl n hf with whatever you go on to do. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kid Clan ONE 00:53 7/6/2002	Its not all about being good at good at CS tho is it, if people enjoy playing it then why not. People who moan about it taking over their lives are the ones with the problems. :\| [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	nerf Clan ONE 00:55 7/6/2002	and yet some of those people who have quit, still manage to hang around like a bad smell. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kid Clan ONE 00:56 7/6/2002	arr charleh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 01:18 7/6/2002	Greg, Both I-es and Noc, you suggest above, view achievement solely in terms of cash in the bank. If I-es have aimed to take it seriously and aim to earn a little money on the side, then cs-b and ukla have set out to enjoy cs on a more relaxed note, and have also succeeded, in a _different_ way. You appear to define achievement in terms of money won, and that, in my opinion, is most unfortunate (especially since the amounts involved are relatively small). I hope for your sake that you were just mock jibing, because theres more to life. Don't get me wrong, Id sure have liked to have won a bit of money, but not to the detriment of the other things outside cs. So please don't go saying other clans are "un-successful" judged from such a narrow definition of achievement. I'll expect a face saving response. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AnNuM 01:34 7/6/2002	Elem, your right. But.. Greg is aswell. All depends on the way you define sucessfull. Anyway we going to go past 100 posts again ? All this noc news is so exiting, keep it coming. Rhyzz, you sound like a girl on Half-Life coms - have your balls dropped ? Good Luck - Rock Good Luck - Rigs and.. HELLO ALVIN HOW ARE YOU ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	KhAoS meatyballs 01:43 7/6/2002	gl chris and sam :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 02:09 7/6/2002	I think that is what he meant by achieving; 'being good' or 'making money' etc. True, clans who play for fun also achieve things, but you cant expect news to be posted about them, because there are simply far too many clans who 'play for fun'. Thats why these clans are meantioned, because as well as playing for fun, they are better than the rest. If there was news about every clan when they loose a member, all newssites would have to have an 90000GB Ubertrox blackhole powered quadrouple skuzzy 4million RPM power discharge harddrives to be able to store all the news. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 02:17 7/6/2002	imagine all the pornographic material you could store on one of em though .... If I had one of those drives, I would become one with the porn. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	lolly 02:44 7/6/2002	lolly [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MadSpunk Last Chance 02:53 7/6/2002	Nocturne were/are on of the best in UK, next to i-eS but with 4 active members they can't really compete can they? Hope they will find a good replacement/s. gl to the two peeps who quit CS. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	T 03:36 7/6/2002	VETS 3 years old soon I think [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 08:37 7/6/2002	and GLTC :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 09:06 7/6/2002	I wouldnt define success as money. Cause there is far too little to be won playing CS. I'd define success as winning free trips to Dallas, or free trips to Korea, and becomming recognised on the European scene. With the amount of time that is spent on CS by a lot of players and teams, you might as well try and get something out of it :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Barely Legal 09:37 7/6/2002	nerf do i smell? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 10:14 7/6/2002	Since i left noc it must have had about 10 members go in and out of it and they still stuck together most clans woulda folded 16 years ago. GL rock n rigs... i fink it was best for them to leave ne way as they were so bad it actually made me sick :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 10:15 7/6/2002	Left = gone in active [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 10:22 7/6/2002	dk i have and still do play cs when i get the chance "Myers I don't point out every mistake you make. I do however notice your complete bias toward certain clans if you think it will get you something, anything, that might raise your reputation in UK CS scene." plz feel free to point out the bias in my posts...i'm waiting... as for bias...lol this website has had 2 noc players writing for it in the past, it seems odd to now accuse me of being bias. Which clans do u think i'm being biased against?. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdFire Croydon 10:42 7/6/2002	[Culexus] on the post about CyberWeb LAN i notice you only posted certain peoples names... the names of people you BUM and make hot steaming LOVE to online. People like you make me sick... the way people like ui/PUNEET/i-es/noc get all the f***ing attention nowadays... i bet there are much more people in the cs scene who deserve much more credit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 10:55 7/6/2002	pld culexus, i agree [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 11:44 7/6/2002	m8, they were the biggest names, so they get the most attention...wtf u expect?..u don't see the sun reporting on the changes going on in the non-league football teams do u? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Culexus 12:26 7/6/2002	no, but this is cs. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 12:34 7/6/2002	My shares will tumble coz of this... Sad. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 12:37 7/6/2002	LOL! havent heard that one before [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	oppie 12:40 7/6/2002	"and played in last years CPL qualifiers" I dont think they were at TPF for Dallas quals, maybe you mean CPL London quals, i dont know. Succes is not defined in money, its is defined in having a good reputation, people appreciating you and winning important matches. ie. Eurocup. I agree with Alvin, aslong as you spent alot of time on a computer game and have a reasonable amount of brains there is a fair chance you can do really well. Hard part is to play well even when you are not a bum sitting at home 24/7. Goodluck Rock and Rigs. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Grom- 14:32 7/6/2002	yep GLtC actually coming up on four years, as it was a branch of GLC an HLDM clan which was formed on beta1. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 14:49 7/6/2002	Coldifre, who in the UK deserves mroe recognition? No1 outside of those there who were at the event have achieved anything to get recognition, or played in the main tournaments like the CPL Qualifiers. List other people there, and people will think "who"? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 14:54 7/6/2002	I think we're basically all in agreement here. "K" I agree that only those clans who "achieve" in the sense of reputation are worth reading about (jsut like all things in life). I was referring completely to Gregs: "but we actually achieve something", not this specific news item. Actually, I hate to say this, but uh, for the first time in years Im seeing a lot of wisdom behind Alvin's comments. Alvin I still think you're a prat though ;) Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	WHOISMYERS? 15:44 7/6/2002	Myers ur pretty cky for a greasey ugly spotty kid, I suggest you try to be nice and stop sucking up top players and clans arses! Your only writing on UKTerrorist coz ur an arse licker! ur breath must stink of s*! How old are u? u look about 15 last time i seen u! Oh and your useless at the game so how did you become manager of IeS???? Whats the world coming to? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 15:49 7/6/2002	People who cuss each other over comments make me sick. I supose anyone can be a hard man so so far away from the people they are cussing. I bet 99% of the people who cuss online would turn there pants brown before they said anything irl. im a f***ing meat head do u realise how hard i am? no i dont think you do. if you did then ... then ..... yeah u get the point im a meathead forever [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	blank. 15:50 7/6/2002	Don't listen to savace, anyone could take him irl therefore he can be ignored >8] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:02 7/6/2002	lol terry [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:12 7/6/2002	oooh posting with a name WHOISMYERS makes me really hard. I wont reveal who i ak caus im the biggest p*y in the world so ill just use a well gay name. u no why, caus im well gay and think cussing ppl in cussin makes me well good. I sit here at my computer and post comments about ppl being gay, but i must b well gay 2 caus im actually wasting my time tryin 2 cuss sum1 over comments, like if i meet them in person ill brown my pants. Anyways, played savace. and PLAYED ENGLAND, WAT A fING WIN, THATS WOT LIFE IS f**IN ABOUT!! BECKHAM BUTT, RIO, OWEN!!! U DA MEN [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:12 7/6/2002	sorry 4 the many errors in grammer etc, had alot of pints durin the game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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	devoluter 15:24 6/6/2002	gl nocturne and rigs n rock [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	IES FAN 15:41 6/6/2002	LOL another one bites the dust hey, and they think they will beat ies? I would rather eat a hot steaming s*** than back NOC to beat ies. Cheerio ! LF [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	IES ROX DA WoRLD 15:44 6/6/2002	yes because being wrong about noc beating INFinITy-EspORTS would be so much worse than eating a hot steaming s***, ID LOSE aLL THE RESPEKT OF MY FEWLLOW GAMERS WHO THINK IM MAD AT PREdiCTions [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 15:51 6/6/2002	'No sooner had the ripples of KhAoS being removed from Nocturne spread than news comes that two more players from noc have left' You mean the founders/CL's/tacticians. More than just players Myers, being a player is the easy part. Building a successful clan (in any respect) is a tiring responsibilty. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 16:00 6/6/2002	While its a bad thing for the scene, I think it will be a good thing for them. Im sure they can find more happiness outside CS. good luck Sam n Chris finally you too saw the light ... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 16:08 6/6/2002	beginning of the end? :/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:24 6/6/2002	No [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 16:28 6/6/2002	Just as i thought Chris was starting to play again... Gl guys, 2001 was a quality year spent with these guys in noc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:29 6/6/2002	Rock and Sam hadnt been very active recently tho had they....so I dont see this affecting Noc too much. To b honest, u I-ESFANS!!! should grow up a bit really. Why put a team down, UK scene will only improve when these people stop being so immature [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 16:30 6/6/2002	"No" good :-) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:31 6/6/2002	Only Chris has really been inactive, but recently started playing [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 16:34 6/6/2002	"You mean the founders/CL's/tacticians. More than just players Myers, being a player is the easy part. Building a successful clan (in any respect) is a tiring responsibilty" no-one's really that bothered if they're the founders, cl's tacticians etc...most people refer to those as players. Keep things very simple for the public. They did play for Noc and as such they can be classed as players. It sounds better too :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:43 6/6/2002	And LF your gonna look such a fool eating s*** [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Strikes\| 16:44 6/6/2002	that Mean Noc will be recruiting again now? what is the noc Line up atm?? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 16:46 6/6/2002	I'd like to see him eat s***, but sadly gotta do my best to make sure he doesnt :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:48 6/6/2002	You like to see ppl eat s*** Greg? wtf you freak :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 16:49 6/6/2002	heh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 16:50 6/6/2002	of course its sad that they've left, chris was the funniest guy i've ever known on voicecomms, but now cpl quals have been announced, and we have to change the team around, we can only improve. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Obz 16:58 6/6/2002	Bob leaves clan bing bong, Bill leeaves clan fishface... All we ever hear is this crap about these dumbasses leaving their clans after stupid arguments... lame lame lame! why dont you do some news on UK clans that arent totally l33t... but have stuck together through thick and thin.. I am avaliable for an interview whenever :D #7thorder [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 17:00 6/6/2002	Yeh they will be missed, not only for CS but for the way they made my time in noc fun and always a laugh. Like the trip to Korea was just so much better 'cos of these two, even though they kept waking me up at 4/5am :P gl guys [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 17:02 6/6/2002	They've been in noc.uk since the beginning, unlucky [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PHB 17:12 6/6/2002	Havn't noc and IeS been around as long as the oldest clans in the UK? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 17:12 6/6/2002	It seems that after 3 years as clan leader of the top UK CS clan has taken it's toll on Jonny 'TheGenius' Neffgen who has exclusively revealed to UKTerrorist that he's to retire from Infinity-esports. Mr. Neffgen had this to say about his retirement: Thats from your thread about The Genius leaving. So the 'Founders' of noc leaving is more appropriate. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 17:23 6/6/2002	I think after the initial shock of these twos deprature, things in noc can only get better, both in and out of game in noc. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Keefe 17:47 6/6/2002	hope things are still good in the noc camp with the cpl quals comming up we need someone to give inf-es a run for it =/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 17:50 6/6/2002	jonny was more established and well known that these too and had led nr/b***h/4k/ies for like 3 yrs...not 1 yr. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 18:03 6/6/2002	I think cs-b and ukla are two of the oldest clans which kept the same name in uk cs. Ies is as old, but has changed name a few times, and noc (in the uk) isnt as old. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 18:16 6/6/2002	But noc and I-eS actually achieve things. I-eS whether name has changed or not, still goes back to the original beta of CS. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 18:35 6/6/2002	Myers = owned [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	arma 18:35 6/6/2002	[RONIN] have been about 2+ years :P but we suck so nvm :( [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 18:43 6/6/2002	Who is Clan Leader now? Messiah or Mike? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Strikes\| 18:56 6/6/2002	What nobady answer me? do i look like some kind of p30n? (dont answer that) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 18:57 6/6/2002	clan [SCEE] #scee beta 3. Not bad I think. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 19:13 6/6/2002	blatently Messiah, cuz mikes not around alot nemore. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Dav^_^ 19:20 6/6/2002	gl with whatever u do Rock & Rigs!! P.S, DK the reason he only calls noc Rock/Rigs players is cus he doesnt bum them like he does Inf-eS [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 19:33 6/6/2002	lol i'm the manager of ies ffs [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 19:36 6/6/2002	not a player?? sure now..wanna get it clear your role! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	naz 19:39 6/6/2002	give myers a break fs, who cares how these guys are labelled? its not exactly important. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 19:48 6/6/2002	#kevlarkillers since beta 1 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:54 6/6/2002	and #BFTD [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 19:56 6/6/2002	Rhyzz is the leader [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 22:31 6/6/2002	DK why do u bother to try and point out mistakes i've made on nearly every post i make?. don't u have anything better to do..and when i was saying i was the manager i wasn't talking to u [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 23:29 6/6/2002	get better things to do dk! lol. I remember an old friend of mine joining SCEE ages ago, norweigan, called Lord_Griffin, remember him DK? :o [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Benji 23:34 6/6/2002	so much b***hing i despise cs tbh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Benji 23:34 6/6/2002	hehhe shush Rob DK has a point Myers sucks [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DK Stalk Confront Engage Eliminate 00:06 7/6/2002	omg lord_griffon..yes i remember him, joined from an old clan like ADUK or something, then hardly ever turned up so I kicked him. Think he lasted about a week, not bad ;p Myers I don't point out every mistake you make. I do however notice your complete bias toward certain clans if you think it will get you something, anything, that might raise your reputation in UK CS scene. Maybe try playing the game, 'cos some of the s* you write amuses me. Your like an art critic whos only ever f*ing doodled on a scrap piece of paper. As a writer for the main UK CS site, your supposed to be neutral :) Or atleast try to make it look that way. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Alvin 00:49 7/6/2002	Typical cycle of cs players. Start playing cs, find its fun, play it a bit more than they should, get relativly good, join a good clan and do well. A few months to a year later they realise how s***e online gaming and cs is and realise how much time they've wasted playing it and want to start doing other things in "real life" instead. Quit cs and spend more time doing the things in life which matter, which sadly isnt sitting playing a game every free hour they have. Anyone can be good at good at cs sadly its just the more socially inept people that can prolong being good at it. Bye bye rigs, bye bye rock, gl n hf with whatever you go on to do. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kid Clan ONE 00:53 7/6/2002	Its not all about being good at good at CS tho is it, if people enjoy playing it then why not. People who moan about it taking over their lives are the ones with the problems. :\| [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	nerf Clan ONE 00:55 7/6/2002	and yet some of those people who have quit, still manage to hang around like a bad smell. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Kid Clan ONE 00:56 7/6/2002	arr charleh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 01:18 7/6/2002	Greg, Both I-es and Noc, you suggest above, view achievement solely in terms of cash in the bank. If I-es have aimed to take it seriously and aim to earn a little money on the side, then cs-b and ukla have set out to enjoy cs on a more relaxed note, and have also succeeded, in a _different_ way. You appear to define achievement in terms of money won, and that, in my opinion, is most unfortunate (especially since the amounts involved are relatively small). I hope for your sake that you were just mock jibing, because theres more to life. Don't get me wrong, Id sure have liked to have won a bit of money, but not to the detriment of the other things outside cs. So please don't go saying other clans are "un-successful" judged from such a narrow definition of achievement. I'll expect a face saving response. Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	AnNuM 01:34 7/6/2002	Elem, your right. But.. Greg is aswell. All depends on the way you define sucessfull. Anyway we going to go past 100 posts again ? All this noc news is so exiting, keep it coming. Rhyzz, you sound like a girl on Half-Life coms - have your balls dropped ? Good Luck - Rock Good Luck - Rigs and.. HELLO ALVIN HOW ARE YOU ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	KhAoS meatyballs 01:43 7/6/2002	gl chris and sam :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 02:09 7/6/2002	I think that is what he meant by achieving; 'being good' or 'making money' etc. True, clans who play for fun also achieve things, but you cant expect news to be posted about them, because there are simply far too many clans who 'play for fun'. Thats why these clans are meantioned, because as well as playing for fun, they are better than the rest. If there was news about every clan when they loose a member, all newssites would have to have an 90000GB Ubertrox blackhole powered quadrouple skuzzy 4million RPM power discharge harddrives to be able to store all the news. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	K 02:17 7/6/2002	imagine all the pornographic material you could store on one of em though .... If I had one of those drives, I would become one with the porn. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	lolly 02:44 7/6/2002	lolly [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MadSpunk Last Chance 02:53 7/6/2002	Nocturne were/are on of the best in UK, next to i-eS but with 4 active members they can't really compete can they? Hope they will find a good replacement/s. gl to the two peeps who quit CS. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	T 03:36 7/6/2002	VETS 3 years old soon I think [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Infiniti 08:37 7/6/2002	and GLTC :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 09:06 7/6/2002	I wouldnt define success as money. Cause there is far too little to be won playing CS. I'd define success as winning free trips to Dallas, or free trips to Korea, and becomming recognised on the European scene. With the amount of time that is spent on CS by a lot of players and teams, you might as well try and get something out of it :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Barely Legal 09:37 7/6/2002	nerf do i smell? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 10:14 7/6/2002	Since i left noc it must have had about 10 members go in and out of it and they still stuck together most clans woulda folded 16 years ago. GL rock n rigs... i fink it was best for them to leave ne way as they were so bad it actually made me sick :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 10:15 7/6/2002	Left = gone in active [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 10:22 7/6/2002	dk i have and still do play cs when i get the chance "Myers I don't point out every mistake you make. I do however notice your complete bias toward certain clans if you think it will get you something, anything, that might raise your reputation in UK CS scene." plz feel free to point out the bias in my posts...i'm waiting... as for bias...lol this website has had 2 noc players writing for it in the past, it seems odd to now accuse me of being bias. Which clans do u think i'm being biased against?. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ColdFire Croydon 10:42 7/6/2002	[Culexus] on the post about CyberWeb LAN i notice you only posted certain peoples names... the names of people you BUM and make hot steaming LOVE to online. People like you make me sick... the way people like ui/PUNEET/i-es/noc get all the f***ing attention nowadays... i bet there are much more people in the cs scene who deserve much more credit. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	-m0o.Rob- 10:55 7/6/2002	pld culexus, i agree [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 11:44 7/6/2002	m8, they were the biggest names, so they get the most attention...wtf u expect?..u don't see the sun reporting on the changes going on in the non-league football teams do u? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Culexus 12:26 7/6/2002	no, but this is cs. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 12:34 7/6/2002	My shares will tumble coz of this... Sad. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 12:37 7/6/2002	LOL! havent heard that one before [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	oppie 12:40 7/6/2002	"and played in last years CPL qualifiers" I dont think they were at TPF for Dallas quals, maybe you mean CPL London quals, i dont know. Succes is not defined in money, its is defined in having a good reputation, people appreciating you and winning important matches. ie. Eurocup. I agree with Alvin, aslong as you spent alot of time on a computer game and have a reasonable amount of brains there is a fair chance you can do really well. Hard part is to play well even when you are not a bum sitting at home 24/7. Goodluck Rock and Rigs. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Grom- 14:32 7/6/2002	yep GLtC actually coming up on four years, as it was a branch of GLC an HLDM clan which was formed on beta1. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 14:49 7/6/2002	Coldifre, who in the UK deserves mroe recognition? No1 outside of those there who were at the event have achieved anything to get recognition, or played in the main tournaments like the CPL Qualifiers. List other people there, and people will think "who"? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Elem 14:54 7/6/2002	I think we're basically all in agreement here. "K" I agree that only those clans who "achieve" in the sense of reputation are worth reading about (jsut like all things in life). I was referring completely to Gregs: "but we actually achieve something", not this specific news item. Actually, I hate to say this, but uh, for the first time in years Im seeing a lot of wisdom behind Alvin's comments. Alvin I still think you're a prat though ;) Elem [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	WHOISMYERS? 15:44 7/6/2002	Myers ur pretty cky for a greasey ugly spotty kid, I suggest you try to be nice and stop sucking up top players and clans arses! Your only writing on UKTerrorist coz ur an arse licker! ur breath must stink of s*! How old are u? u look about 15 last time i seen u! Oh and your useless at the game so how did you become manager of IeS???? Whats the world coming to? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	SaVaCe 15:49 7/6/2002	People who cuss each other over comments make me sick. I supose anyone can be a hard man so so far away from the people they are cussing. I bet 99% of the people who cuss online would turn there pants brown before they said anything irl. im a f***ing meat head do u realise how hard i am? no i dont think you do. if you did then ... then ..... yeah u get the point im a meathead forever [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	blank. 15:50 7/6/2002	Don't listen to savace, anyone could take him irl therefore he can be ignored >8] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 16:02 7/6/2002	lol terry [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:12 7/6/2002	oooh posting with a name WHOISMYERS makes me really hard. I wont reveal who i ak caus im the biggest p*y in the world so ill just use a well gay name. u no why, caus im well gay and think cussing ppl in cussin makes me well good. I sit here at my computer and post comments about ppl being gay, but i must b well gay 2 caus im actually wasting my time tryin 2 cuss sum1 over comments, like if i meet them in person ill brown my pants. Anyways, played savace. and PLAYED ENGLAND, WAT A fING WIN, THATS WOT LIFE IS f**IN ABOUT!! BECKHAM BUTT, RIO, OWEN!!! U DA MEN [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Raider 16:12 7/6/2002	sorry 4 the many errors in grammer etc, had alot of pints durin the game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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