Official Statement From VGA

Posted by Myers at 20:43 13/5/2002.

It seems I was a little hasty in posting news on here regarding the UK CPL qualifiers and Mr. Mulroy from the VGA made an official statement on the comments.
The VGA are hosting the WCG this year in Aug-Sep. We were contacted a couple of weeks by iGames in the USA who are organising the CPL events this year. They asked us if we wanted to do the event in the UK, we had to have it cleared by both CPL and WCG that we could do both and sense has prevailed and we can.

We will ONLY do the event once we have a confirmed sponsor, and we believe we have one 99%. We all know when the finals are in Dallas so we obviously have to run the qualifier a few weeks before then! The dates of the event can be changed to whenever, and we will do our best to avoid conflicting dates. I've known Tom and Craig at Multiplay for ages, and we consider them friends in our cause so it will NOT conflict with them.

I am a little disheartened by the lack of enthusiasm shown by a minority of some people here, the CPL and WCG are there to be enjoyed and to compete. I am certain Arsenal would not have agreed to pulling out of the Premiership and FA Cup as they thought "why bother" as Man U will surely win.

There are amazing clans that ONLY play at Lan centres and not online. I think you will be suprised at the final placements. No, I know you will be.

The VGA is an alliance of all the gaming centres in the UK which is here to promote them and to get people in to play in friendly environments. They are all independent companies trying to succeed where TPF and Lanarena have failed. Perhaps you should try them out before passing judgement...

The VGA leagues (centre vs centre) ended a few weeks back and we held the finals at xcession at the weekend. Check out the match between Virtual Realm Bath and Xcession Stevenage in the final to see just how good lan gaming clans are.

I'd like to apologise to the VGA for posting the news without official confirmation by them. I'd also agree that the VGA is doing the UK a favour by hosting such a tournament since the downfall of both TPF and Lan Arena so perhaps they deserve praise rather than harsh criticism. I for one have visited several VGA venues and each time have been impressed by the computers and the staff friendliness. I'm sure the tournaments they run for our benefit prove to be as exciting and well organised as those previously.

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Pen
20:51 13/5/2002
cool [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b33p
20:54 13/5/2002
Early/Mid July would be a good time, as i think GCSEs, As and A2 level exams will be mostly over. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
21:15 13/5/2002
The VGA leagues (centre vs centre) ended a few weeks back and we held the finals at xcession at the weekend. Check out the match between Virtual Realm Bath and Xcession Stevenage in the final to see just how good lan gaming clans are.

Final teams were made up of people who play in experienced clans online, they are not purely LAN teams. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
21:28 13/5/2002
@(o.O)@ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
21:32 13/5/2002
Bad analangy, ARSENAL DID THE DOUBLE wooooo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NoToRiOuS
2 COOL 4 SKOOL
UKTerrorist
21:48 13/5/2002
lol :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
22:14 13/5/2002
Arsenal get paid decent money to play though... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PHB
22:20 13/5/2002
There are amazing clans that ONLY play at Lan centres and not online. I think you will be suprised at the final placements. No, I know you will be.

I think this is gona turn out funny. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PHB
22:30 13/5/2002
The VGA leagues (centre vs centre) ended a few weeks back and we held the finals at xcession at the weekend. Check out the match between Virtual Realm Bath and Xcession Stevenage in the final to see just how good lan gaming clans are.

There are amazing clans that ONLY play at Lan centres and not online. I think you will be suprised at the final placements. No, I know you will be.

Oh lets not forgot how good Lan gaming clans are.

We have
Raider
Nighty
Houd
Puneet

Now these might be different people but I'm fairly sure I've seen these guys online once or twice.
This being an eg. is like me saying heres an example of how good UK are by showing a demo of noc v ies.
There the best two teams there and they would be lucky, and they know it, to get 10 rounds off noc/ies so please think a bit more when your deciding what teams go through. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
-m0o.Rob-
22:53 13/5/2002
PHB is a hero [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
23:03 13/5/2002
a super hero [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
23:09 13/5/2002
/sigh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bean
funky monkey dealer
23:12 13/5/2002
f*** em all :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz
Nocturne
23:24 13/5/2002
Puneet+mp5(</if spray == 30round> THEN headshot = 100%>) ELSE 1.4(netcode)+PHAT*ADSL(2mb) == awm+wall(/if death <> puneet+netcode) THEN target(alive) = dead) ELSE (Netcode+(Puneet+(mp5+(dsl = CS 1.4) ) ) )

Dont think it would quite work but read carefully and it will make sense :D

I love puneet [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rocket
23:28 13/5/2002
Hi DArtagnan. I think he meant to say arsenal because they won the double. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
23:35 13/5/2002
Could someone ban Rhyzz from posting [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sujoy
23:49 13/5/2002
TBH I wasn't originally planning to run the CPL in the UK. I realised late in the day that no-one was organising a UK qualifier for the CPL and I decided that I'd organise one because it would be a crying shame to not have a UK team in the finals. If I'd known that there'd be so much hostility towards a CPL Qualifier before it had even been announced, I might have thought again!

As it stands now, we've found a sponsor that's very enthusiastic about the VGA and these CPL events so I'm looking forward to running this event in the UK. If lots of teams take part in the qualifier then the sponsors will be happy and will fund the prizes for the next big competition. If our sponsor looked at that other page with all the comments they'd probably change their minds about sponsoring a CPL qualifier, and that would be everyone's loss.

// Sujoy (VGA) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CrowdeR
23:51 13/5/2002
interesting Rhyzz, wonder how long that took you to type.

/me thinks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sujoy
23:54 13/5/2002
And also don't count on Dominic for knowing what he's on about with online Counter-Strike - he was talking about the Bath Virtual Realm LAN team (that won the VGA League), but some of those guys do play online too. That's beside the point, anyway, because I'd like to see the Internet teams compete in this CPL Qualifier as well as the LAN regulars. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Wright
23:54 13/5/2002
w0000tt All praise VGA looks like i11 is back on for us :D

Mr Mulroy, you are indeed the man.

There are some very good teams that play from lan, though Im sure they would agree that perhaps this was a little unrealistic? Unless you mean lan centres in Sweden :D (Plz dont let any of them play)

"There are amazing clans that ONLY play at Lan centres and not online. I think you will be suprised at the final placements. No, I know you will be." [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
00:22 14/5/2002
Any chance we can hear something official about the layout of the qualifiers? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
annno
00:35 14/5/2002
VGA Final was annoying me mates headphones got nicked by 1 of xecession staff...Raider and Nighty's face when they lost was well funny (highlight of the day) 1 of the members of staff was annoying and ignorant..it was also fixed so Xcession could get to the final by playing the easiest team first..houd and punnet apprently played lame (ha ha) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sujoy
02:19 14/5/2002
The VGA League final was not 'fixed' so that Stevenage got an easy match. Does anyone check what they're saying before they say it? Bath was seeded 1 since they won Division A. Stevenage was seeded 2 for winning Division B. Birmingham were seeded 3 as runner-up in Division A. Canterbury were seeded 4 as runner-up in Division B.

Seed 1 plays Seed 4, Seed 2 plays Seed 3. Losers play each other for 3rd place. Winners play for 1st place. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sujoy
02:21 14/5/2002
Procedure: As soon as I can make an official announcement I'll make it. Obviously time is short, so we're pushing the sponsors to sign asap so that things can move forward. Check the VGA website and XSReality for details when they are available. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
02:30 14/5/2002
mad suj to the rescue :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Trenny
10:00 14/5/2002
what was the prize for this VGA league?

Bristol LAN Arena won the first league but recived no prize :| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous
Clan ONE
10:15 14/5/2002
Trenny the prizes were :

1st - Virtual Realm (Bath) got £1000
2nd - Xcession (Stevenage) got £500 (i think)
3rd - Xtreme IT (Canterbury) got £300
4th - Global Gaming (Birmingham) no idea

I played for Xtreme IT Canterbury - We lost to Virtual Realm 14-10 i think it was and played Global Gaming (Losers to Xcession) we won that 23-1.

I have been playing for Xtreme IT for about 3 months now and am going to continue until ONE start LANs properly. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sort it out
12:28 14/5/2002
Clan history: Clan ONE for 2 years. Only clan i've been in since i started CS. Still in them to date.

I have been playing for Xtreme IT for about 3 months now and am going to continue until ONE start LANs properly. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
13:18 14/5/2002
Suj is the man!!!!!
I know i tried to persuade him to do the CPL Quals a few times on irc, and am now thoroughly glad it's gonna take place.
As for why people have shown hostility towards it, i dont have a clue. The previous 2 CPL Qualifiers i've played in are the best and most exciting lans ive played in. Sujoy has been present at pretty much every lan ever. Therefore we know there's a lot of experience behind the VGA so it should be a very good tournament. :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous-
13:32 14/5/2002
lol

Sort It Out - too scared to put your real name or something.

i did my clan history a while back.

Anyways as i said X-IT are a LAN clan and im playing for them until ONE start doing LANs. Therefore they are my LAN clan.

So do us a favour and p*** off. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Light
13:51 14/5/2002
Owned? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
XLNC/Dr_Evil
14:43 14/5/2002
N1 Sujoy for actually organising it. Should be a good event :). [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
14:44 14/5/2002
wowow so owned! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
15:11 14/5/2002
WOWSERS infact messiah ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Barely Legal
15:19 14/5/2002
rofl @ brett and alex [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
15:49 14/5/2002
holy moly shads not wowsers [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
16:08 14/5/2002
jeepers creepers batman [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Raider
16:21 14/5/2002
annon, all i can say is lol at you mate. Your too scared / embarrassed to even use your real alias. I dont understand 'the look on nighty and raiders face when they lost'. A) We were in a different room, B) I went straight to the Bath guys (lurks and co.) who i know from online and said great game, because honestly it was a good game, not gona make any excuses, they played well, and we had pun :P:P hehe
But please annon, give us your real alias so I can know whos trying to badmouth me [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Raider
16:23 14/5/2002
and i also add that there is no chance that any headfones got nicked by any1 at xcession. The staff even found 1 pair attached to a pc, realised wasnt xcessions and went into the main room and said has any1 left a pair of headfones on the pc.
You really are quite a terrible liar. It helps if you use facts. GG [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sigh
16:35 14/5/2002
b***hes!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
16:36 14/5/2002
and if anyone did lose their headphones, you can join noc and get a replacement, sorted [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ricochet
16:40 14/5/2002
LOL, the VGA finals were a great sucess, we all enjoyed the time we spent at xcession, great LAN nice blokes gg all :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Nighty
17:43 14/5/2002
annno
00:35, 14/5/2002 VGA Final was annoying me mates headphones got nicked by 1 of xecession staff...Raider and Nighty's face when they lost was well funny (highlight of the day) 1 of the members of staff was annoying and ignorant..it was also fixed so Xcession could get to the final by playing the easiest team first..houd and punnet apprently played lame (ha ha)

m8 u own. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous
Clan ONE
19:04 14/5/2002
The final was a great game.

Thought VR had it but T proved to be hard for them on aztec as was for Xcession.

Was a good day...only annoying part was we travelled for around 2 hours and had to go home straight after the Final, when we wanted to play a game against Xcession and replay VR. oh well gg [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
20:39 14/5/2002
A few questions for Suj: will there be a pre-qual at EVERY centre?

Where will the final be? London or somewhere nearer central england? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
22:34 14/5/2002
He said it's not decided, and that'll when he knows it'll be announced. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
22:34 14/5/2002
He said it's not decided, and that'll when he knows it'll be announced. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous
Clan ONE
22:45 14/5/2002
echo echo

=oD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Righteous
Clan ONE
22:45 14/5/2002
echo echo

=oD [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Houd
22:59 14/5/2002
Yep I played pretty much as bad as I ever have, oh well, s*** happens :)
And to be fair, those LAN clans wouldn't get 2 rounds let alone 10 off i-es/noc. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Aardvark
theb0g
02:42 15/5/2002
I do like the way things like 'There are amazing clans that ONLY play at Lan centres'. I've heard it before from such ppl as UK2 clans, demon clans, the same people that assume anyone better than them is cheating.

Heard it before, don't say we'll be surprised until we ARE surprised ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Infiniti
12:49 15/5/2002
yay Bath =D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Xcession
20:40 18/5/2002
"VGA Final was annoying me mates headphones got nicked by 1 of xecession staff...Raider and Nighty's face when they lost was well funny (highlight of the day) 1 of the members of staff was annoying and ignorant..it was also fixed so Xcession could get to the final by playing the easiest team first..houd and punnet apprently played lame (ha ha)"

Annno....i can assure you that none of my staff are either ignorant or annoying. If you would like to give us a call I'd be happy to discuss any problems you had with one of our staff. (www.xcession.com for contact details)
As for the headset, I strongly resent the accusation that is was taken by someone from Xcession. This is simply not true. I spoke to the player involved at the time and he made no such claim. Again, if 'your mate' wants to discuss the matter further he is welcome to get in touch.
Your claim that the matches were rigged is laughable, as already explained by Sujoy.
Im sorry your mate didnt enjoy his time at the final - everyone else seemed to ;)
Well played VR for winning a very close final match ! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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