VGA To Host UK CPL Summer 2002 World Championship Qualifier

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	:D 21:09 11/5/2002	Heh, I think the VGA would be an ok place to host it, but bring back TPF [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 21:16 11/5/2002	yes i like 5 hr delays too :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	omg ! Sarge Shoot First Ask Later 21:19 11/5/2002	be intresting to see how many teams turn up, due to the UK having only one team even half capable of competing well in dallas (or even winning quals). also what happens with the VGA centers, dont they all have diff spec machines? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Lyo 21:23 11/5/2002	wasn't last years the same time as i9 and 4k had to cut it short. noc v i-es final with i-es winning it [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 21:28 11/5/2002	Yes lyo but that was the last day of i9....this is bang smack in the center of it. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	decrepit Croydon 21:28 11/5/2002	I thought CPL didnt want VGA to host CPL quals becos they were too affiliated with WCG? cant remember who told me that tho. Middle of exam period :/ Also sarge is right about UK not having many teams able to compete at that level but i think the CPL Quals are as much about taking part as winning. Particularly cos in the UK there r so few lans. I for one wud love to go just to play rather than win, but cos of exams doubt i cud neway. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 21:34 11/5/2002	I told u that decrepid :) thus i also mentioned it on the newspost. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TeppuM 21:39 11/5/2002	so.. let me get this right it's 3 weeks? 1 @ Each center then the next stage and then the finals ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 21:41 11/5/2002	ooooooo im so excited [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Myers Saviour of UKT UKTerrorist 21:49 11/5/2002	no teppum...a 'mini-tournament' at each venue...1 tear goes through to the qual finals... sorted. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 21:54 11/5/2002	lol this is great, i have exams on both regional and grand final dates :[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 21:56 11/5/2002	sarge mag8 went to slough on an allnighter, all the pcs in the room we had had gf4 ti somethings, with 100fps constant, 0 choke 0 loss, 10 pings, with updaterates 270, cl_cmdrates 300, rate 50k or sommit [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 22:01 11/5/2002	dunno about the other centres, think theyre all in line for an upgrade or sommit, and afaik i think the pcs have to be a minimum spec for the centre to become a VGA centre, but im not sure ;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 22:30 11/5/2002	Think we'll definitely go to slough then. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TeppuM 22:33 11/5/2002	sooooo 15th .. mini tournies then .. 22nd finals ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 22:36 11/5/2002	All winning teams compete at the regional finals(15th June) Winning teams at these regional finals compete in the Grand Final(22nd June) -- lol Looks like it tepp [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Chris0 22:48 11/5/2002	But - One team qualifies from each VGA centre All winning teams compete at the regional finals(15th June) Winning teams at these regional finals compete in the Grand Final(22nd June) - makes it look like 3 weeks, so is the "One team qualifies from each VGA centre" a chosen team or from quals etc? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 22:50 11/5/2002	LanCity in Leeds is ok but the PC's aren't excellent. You'll get avg. 70-80fps with decent ping. Though the servers are hosted on desktop PC's rather than an actual server PC. Shame that :/ Anyway should be interesting all this. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Slider 22:51 11/5/2002	to bristol lanarena [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 23:01 11/5/2002	Without sounding like my head is up i-es arse they should really have an autoberth for the finals seeing as they won the last event. It would only be fair to other clans in the other qualifiers as well. Though there are 50 qualifying centres across the UK and if they're all used just pick the one i-es aren't competing in! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	NoToRiOuS 2 COOL 4 SKOOL UKTerrorist 23:03 11/5/2002	Any1 got a list of VGA centres that would help :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 23:15 11/5/2002	Here's the list http://www.vga.org.uk/index.php?frame=yes&action=listcentres Or you can find your local centre http://www.vga.org.uk/index.php?frame=yes&action=findcentre [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	decrepit Croydon 23:20 11/5/2002	http://www.vga.org.uk/index.php?frame=yes&action=listcentres [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 23:20 11/5/2002	the one in bracknell is also v good i hear, gf4 ti's in those to. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	b33p 23:35 11/5/2002	Right in the middle of my A level exams, thanx a lot guys =/ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Eagle 00:03 12/5/2002	Bah. I wanna go do it but no clan to go with and cannae be arsed to make up a mess around one. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 00:57 12/5/2002	Yeh xceed they shud say they are gonna win it only to be blasted out too [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 01:04 12/5/2002	I don't see the point in this to be honest. There IS only one team in the UK. I-eS are going strong, Ui have gone, LR have folded, LCA don't ever play, nocturne are taking a break, and dNc will be at the Irish qualifiers. 3 stages (or is it 2, can't tell from your list) for what will undoubtedly be a 24-0 final its a great waste. The way TPF did it was a lot better. One final, 8 teams invited, 4 groups of 4 bla bla bla. Anyway even then I don't know who'd you invite since everyone is gone apart from i-es. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 01:08 12/5/2002	When i said 4 groups of 4, i meant 2 groups of 4. My calculator broke. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 01:10 12/5/2002	RoFfLeMaYoNaiSe [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 01:12 12/5/2002	=[ [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kaids 01:53 12/5/2002	irish qual? is there something you aren't letting on about proc ? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 01:54 12/5/2002	yeh [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 02:35 12/5/2002	Sorry i've only heard for months about there only being an Irish CPL qualifier and i-es' plans to fly over there every 2 weeks. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 02:35 12/5/2002	But I listen to idiots most of the time =] [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 02:43 12/5/2002	lul [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 02:46 12/5/2002	Like Toomy for instance [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 02:47 12/5/2002	You mean Nooby rofflemayonaise!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	iron 03:23 12/5/2002	proc i think the 'grand event' is the same as the TPF style event, and the other qualifiers are like the old pre-quals. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	XLNC/Dr_Evil 03:44 12/5/2002	im drunk, but it should be good [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	XLNC/Dr_Evil 03:58 12/5/2002	There better be a qualifier in Scotland. Glasgow and Edinburgh are surely good places to have one... [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	individual 04:00 12/5/2002	i agree with procedure on this.. 1 clan in uk (after recent occurences) that is even worth considerein for dallas so what si the f**ckin point? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	stupid person 08:50 12/5/2002	Ecore make a revival !!! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	kirium 09:06 12/5/2002	What proc said about there only being one clan is absolutely true. Whats bound to happen is, (if ies dont get an autoberth) they'll win the qualifiers & group stages with 24-0 most games against all the uk clans that turn up and then get a taxing game against a team of mercs in the finals but will pull through as they have done in the past. Which is what happened at i10 and bycst. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	blank. 09:23 12/5/2002	nice timing with them as well , right bang in the middle of exams [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PHB 10:32 12/5/2002	tbh I can see a whole 3 teams even competing in the UK at that sorta level which are dNC, I-eS, Nocturne. Nocturne have started playing again i've noticed so what you guys need if a 4th team to play and have a 4 team qualifier playing everyone twice or wahthave. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	b1az0r 10:37 12/5/2002	we will be there :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	b1az0r 10:38 12/5/2002	I'm a stupid t**t who finds it really funny to use decrepid's account to edit other ppl's comments just cos i don't have the power to do it myself cos lets face it...why would anyone wanna trust me with comment-editing abilities?...oh and i smell really bad. Also Dart is one of the best and most respectable cs players in the uk community and i wish him good luck in the future [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ryano theb0g 11:11 12/5/2002	cold fusion [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	ryano theb0g 11:11 12/5/2002	;) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	:( 11:15 12/5/2002	13-1 [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 11:33 12/5/2002	Half you people are so negative. 1. You should really be going for the fun of the event 2. You seem to forget i-es nearly lost i-10 to a merc team. Don't think it couldn't happen again. Everyone b*hes about the UK not having enough lans and then when one does crop up you b*h that there's no point in going coz i-es will win it. Have a little confidence in yourselves. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PHB 14:27 12/5/2002	Kenny ownz, you know he can't hold the team together without a steady 99 fps, give him some slack [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MiG 14:34 12/5/2002	lan in scotland = that'll be the day [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	VespR 14:56 12/5/2002	You have two VGA centres in Edinburgh and Glasgow. I wouldn't dismiss it. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	MiG 14:59 12/5/2002	we do ? ":) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wright 15:00 12/5/2002	Im surprised no one has b***hed about: a) 2-3 different trips to a VGA center and b) the fact they scheduled the final bang in the middle of i11. How many teams live near each other? I-eS for example have players from Fittleworth to Glasgow to Holland. Im sure many other clans find themselves in similar circumstances where going to Slough every weekend for the best part of a month is not practical. It makes sense for the VGA to promote the idea of local teams who can all compete together from their local VGA cafe in the VGA league. And why would the VGA run a qualifier without getting everything out of it they possibly can, but surely this will rule out good teams who want to compete. Whyyyyyyyy in the middle of i11 aswell? Would I be naive to think they were forced into having it on this weekend by a tight schedule? Wasnt there a rumour about i11 hosting CPL qualifiers in the future? So is this 2 fingers up at multiplay from the VGA? Anyway point is, neither of these things are benefitting the gamers. Virtual Gamers Alliance? Hurry back TPF. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TeppuM 15:16 12/5/2002	Don't really see a reason to rant about this here, because probably no-one from VGA know about this website, fools that they are. I say fools, because, as Grim pointed out above, the "grand final" clashes with i11, where 600 gamers will be gathering to have fun, but not only that, but the regional finals ALSO clash with Roweb (week before), a 250 man lan. Who in their right mind would want to travel to 3 different centers (granted they get through), who hasn't got a sponsor? And let's face it.. Not many people have sponsors, only Infinity and Nocturne have 'travel' sponsors to my knowledge. Let's do some quick calculations.. First venue: Entree probably £10~ Transport(most will take train) £30-40 Second Venue: Entree probably £10~ (should be free though, as it's a win from last "tourny" Transport(train again) £30-40 Third Venue: Entree, surely free.. Transport(yet again train) £30-40 so.. that's roughly £110 That's NOT including food, and somewhere to stay (as alot of people wont be able to get home on the same day).. Yes, sure you can get train tickets for <£10.. IF you book 2 weeks before, how in gods name are you going to know if you should book 2 weeks before or not if you don't know if you've qualified? That would be roughly £800 for a clan, with 6 members.. including food etc Now.. IF that clan wins, and ends up going to dallas.. They would get to compete against top clans in the world etc etc. BUT, considering Infinity did VERY well last time round, and still ONLY won £1500~($2000) placing 9th-12th. That leaves the clan with £100 each, for the biggest tournament in the world. What are you thinking of VGA? Roweb - www.roweb.co.uk i11 - www.multiplay.co.uk Both VERY good lans, and there's NO reason for you to have events clashing with BOTH these events, as most top UK gamers will be going to these, I myself was planning on attending both these events, but due to your STUPIDITY in date selection, I'm having to carefully reconsider this, as are the rest of my clan, and alot of other clans I know. That's enough from me for now.. -- SOMEONE, PLEASE pass this URL on to VGA, or I may end up e-mailing it to them if I get round to it. TeppuM morgan@cspickup.net - www.CSPickup.net - #CSPickup [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Wright 15:25 12/5/2002	3 times to london = more expensive than 1 time to dublin? A bit of competition for dNc perhaps? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 15:35 12/5/2002	noc are back playing u say? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 15:35 12/5/2002	/me challenges them to a game [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	XLNC/Dr_Evil 15:54 12/5/2002	You maybe dont come home with much cash, but im sure the experience and the thrill of the cometition are the main things people go for. Most ppl play online for free dont they. Same with any sport really, you play because you want to, the money is a nice side effect if you are good enough. I for one am glad it clashes with i11, cos that way maybe a really s* clan like us will get thru playing against only s* local clans and p*** everyone off :P. Final thing 'The winning team will travel to Dallas to compete in the World CPL Finals for a prize of £125000. ' how much of the expense of going is paid cos we had a bad experience with 'expenses paid' trips at the last CPL qualifier. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 15:57 12/5/2002	Flights,accomadation, and maybe food not sure. In Korea we had almost everything paid for. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	PHB 16:39 12/5/2002	3 times to london = more expensive than 1 time to dublin? A bit of competition for dNc perhaps? Wouldnt that be cool :P [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 16:52 12/5/2002	Whose joined noc then creg? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	TeppuM 17:02 12/5/2002	Evil The point is, one clan get through, the rest have spent 800-1000 quid, and aren't getting it back. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 17:09 12/5/2002	Do EXACTLY what TPF did. They invited 6 clans, and two qualified. The invited clans last time were 4k noc lr lca ui numbers/scee only 3 still exist [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Marcus calibre 17:09 12/5/2002	invite TRCC.uk i hear they rock [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 17:21 12/5/2002	TRCC.uk should just be given the auto-berth. Wait, they're so good f*** the whole CPL Dallas, just give them all $125,000 they deserve it. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	decrepit Croydon 17:23 12/5/2002	the community is much weaker than back then, other than noc and i-es it wud be much harder to get ne close games. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ricochet 17:46 12/5/2002	ahem, there are alot of VGA clans that noone knows about that are quite good. My VGA clan will be there ehehehhe :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	shads theb0g 18:22 12/5/2002	that the same lan team H&D used to play ric? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ruprekt 18:30 12/5/2002	Hi. I would like to state from one of the statements above regarding fps at Lancity. Obviously v-sync was on when the gentlemen played on our machines because with v-sync off we get 99+fps constant. We run client servers due to them being the most stable form of server for us in the past. We have run CPL qualifiers before and are looking forward to this years even more! Ruprekt. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DArtagnan Infinity-eSports 18:38 12/5/2002	I only recall TPF running CPL qualifiers in the past? Unless you hosted the pre-qualifiers? [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Messiah Game2XS.Monkey Magic 18:40 12/5/2002	yeh they run pre-qualifiers for last cpl qualifier [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	XLNC/Dr_Evil 18:49 12/5/2002	The pre qualifier we attended in Leeds was pretty good. Shame they only had limited PCs and we had to keep setting up but the machines were fine. Teppum, I dunno if there will be prizes for runners up (I doubt it tbh cos of the cost of the main prize) and that will put ppl off, but hopefully plenty of teams will turn up. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Ricochet 20:40 12/5/2002	yeah shads, but we can fire in a straight line now :) [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	Eagle 20:48 12/5/2002	A) where will the grand final be? B) do they expect to get like 8 clans PER vga centre? c) Can some clan based in london with a space, that wants to go to the qualifiers contact me cos I WANNA GO! [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	omg ! Sarge Shoot First Ask Later 21:14 12/5/2002	i think its a tad useless having all these rounds + 2nd round + then quals. there simply wont be enough teams to fill the gaps. will probably go to a 1 day event again, their best anyway [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]
	DRatagnan 22:20 12/5/2002	Im respected yes but I love myself more. <- once again i've tried to imitate a well respected cs player cos i'm really jealous of him. Sorry greg for being the t**t that i am. In future i'll try to spell his name properly too. [ Comment: Report \| IP: Logged ]

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