National UK CS Team Announced

Posted by Myers at 13:09 6/4/2002.

I know it's a bit late but here is the official UK team for the cbnations competition:The team was chosen not only from our personal knowledge but also from asking many of the top clans for their choices and compiling the list. However no doubt you have you're own thoughts so let the flames begin...

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Rob
Newsie
UKTerrorist
13:28 6/4/2002
*cough* My name appears to be missing...

:D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
13:35 6/4/2002
NBK for Team-UK mascot [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
14:22 6/4/2002
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's crap! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Giganta
14:22 6/4/2002
looks like a nice line up to me :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[aT]*Rodhan
14:35 6/4/2002
euhhhh why was i not picked? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
14:47 6/4/2002
f*** off frenchie! :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
.dNC.a1ex
14:47 6/4/2002
noc*Blaze is one of the players around and is a bit silly leaving him out, apart from that its a very nice team and best of luck :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
noc*Rock
15:17 6/4/2002
Shame Mike (noc*Blaze) wasn't picked considering he IS one of the best players in the UK. Like always he is playing well and he did very well for the UK in the last CB Nations Tournament especially against Belgium.

GL anyway. The UK team should do very well. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
15:26 6/4/2002
Team sucks! bet a pair of halfwits picked it :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
15:26 6/4/2002
Not sure I would have put some of the players in that you did but, we all have our own opinions. I asked some people from the UK Team what they thought, and they agreed that some players shouldnt be in. But well its only meh so I wont complain =0]

Gl Hf !!!!
Myers = Sven ?
Toomy = Owen ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
15:50 6/4/2002
we have our reasons for not selecting mike, but not gonna bother explaining them for u 2 flame [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Neffgen_
16:05 6/4/2002
Team looks pretty good, I also would have put Blaze in as he was really good last time round.

Elem was also very good last Cup but haven't seen or heard anything of him in past few months, is he still in form?

KhAoS is an interesting selection too. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
iron
16:17 6/4/2002
myers you should tell us why you didnt pick blaze, hes clearly one of the best in the uk and the reasons for him not being picked arent quite as obvious as most... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lee
16:36 6/4/2002
Blaze -replace-> Elem imo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Markus himh00hahoho
16:40 6/4/2002
So elem goes inactive for 20 years walks back in and joins uk team ?
can someone clear this up. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
16:51 6/4/2002
i spoke to several individuals who i wont name regarding mike, if he wishes 2 speak 2 me himself, i'd welcome him.
and khaos
khaos is on s***hot form atm. really really good.
elem, yeh i guess could be a bit rusty, but was popular choice. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
b1az0r
17:05 6/4/2002
thanx for the nice comments. ive had my run in the team, good to see new faces! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rd
theb0g
17:07 6/4/2002
And who thinks Myers should approach meh about bein in the UK Team ?

Hmm... /me has 4 peeps who shouldnt be in and 3 who can replace em ! gogogogo [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
17:16 6/4/2002
gl team uk! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
17:18 6/4/2002
RoaDDoG name them...

We like to see other peoples opinions. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
17:39 6/4/2002
Liquid
Grim
Toomy
Blaze
lil
Procedure
Purple [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Penn0r
17:42 6/4/2002
Elem was completley badass when i played against him - as for KhAoS, I'd rate him as good as b0b anyday..if not better [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CocoPop
17:56 6/4/2002
I think annum should be in the team :?) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
CocoPop
17:59 6/4/2002
oops, been a long day :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
18:20 6/4/2002
proc for president! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
18:23 6/4/2002
Why am I on your deathwish list messiah? :(( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
18:31 6/4/2002
Cos along with lil, imo your the best players in ui and feel you could play at a level which is needed for CB Nations cup. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KaM
18:49 6/4/2002
pfft what a s***E team, ireland will walk over you

;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lee
18:57 6/4/2002
Its seem that who you know can get you a place nowadays or how ppl judge you from several betas ago. I know what i think of that.. >:| [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Penn0r
19:03 6/4/2002
yeh Lee i kinda agree with you there, which is why its a good thing Chris0 and Myers went around asking a s***load of good to top clans who they think the best players are [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
19:21 6/4/2002
i think Kronic should be in the team :/ imo hes top 5 in the country, you need to see him play before you flame my opinion :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Neffgen_
20:06 6/4/2002
Oh one thing, the team is way too big imo! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
20:25 6/4/2002
I like this competition cause it's fun, allows uk players who wouldnt normally get to play with each other do so, and i cant wait to play Heaton and Pott1 :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lee
20:35 6/4/2002
Penn0r so why the hell did they picl Elem ? :) Not saying im as good as Elem but i know for a fact theres alot of better players than him in the UK. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
:O
21:08 6/4/2002
LOL @ like all of Infinity-eSports being picked, thats such bulls***. You can certainly tell thats the Chris0 touch. Mangiacapra/Liquid yes the rest, yeah whatever... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
plaz
21:20 6/4/2002
aye, kronic roxx :D. Also hasn't elem been playing under "Myth" since he's not been around, hes also a hpb last time i heard? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
KhAoS
21:23 6/4/2002
u got the wrong elem :) tahts someother bloke called element [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
plaz
21:28 6/4/2002
lol k :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
21:34 6/4/2002
I don't know if the team is too big. The clans in the UK are a lot more competitive now, hence play a lot more than they used to in season 1. Perhaps this means that the players are unavaliable less, so in order for the UK team to have any practices at all they've got to have quite a big squad. Maybe anyway =] [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
22:26 6/4/2002
infinity esports are the best and most experienced clan in the country, so go figure :)
neffgen ur the one that advised us 2 pick a large squad :). However due to availability issues, we had to pick it anyway [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
orange
22:36 6/4/2002
Why are there four "Infinity-eSports" members in the team (five if you include tea boy). Wasn't there a two players per clan limit?

It would be hard to pick a less trust worthy team, at least five of those players would cheat if they thought they had to, many long suspected and/or caught.

"I goto lan, I can't hax on net!" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
:O
22:54 6/4/2002
You really still think theyre the best in the country? They scraped a win against a merc clan that consisted of 2 very good players, 1 good one, and 2 "decent" ones.

And ui walked all over them at Primary Strike, so what justifies them as the best? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mAH
23:59 6/4/2002
b0b
mangia
wright
toomy
annum
shouldbe starters [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
maH
00:00 7/4/2002
and yea inf-es are probaly 3 maybe 2nd if lucky best lan team in uk and no way 1st [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fred
00:21 7/4/2002
Toomy
lil
b0b
StoppA
DArt
dsx
Pathfinder
Dazz [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
02:29 7/4/2002
haha!, they won i10 against what was probably the 2nd best team in the country and they didn't have two of their top players.
They came in the top 12 at the cpl!, and have always been a very consistant clan...so they lost 1 game on a lan to ui...*shrug* it happens!.
They are by far among the most experienced and skilled player in the game atm. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Toomy
02:41 7/4/2002
Eh Myers, they won i10 against the 2nd best team in the country? Am i hearing this right? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
03:04 7/4/2002
Well it'll be interesting to see the new pecking order in the UK scene. Trust me, there is no obvious #1 by a long way. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
kaids-
06:12 7/4/2002
LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Giganta
08:30 7/4/2002
They won against 2nd best clan in this country?, fair enough Ghosties were good but umm, there not a clan are they? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
11:04 7/4/2002
lol, i didn't mean official clan, yes they were mercs, but!, how many other clans do u think could've beaten them? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
11:15 7/4/2002
ui [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
11:40 7/4/2002
Myers u said you knew the scene well! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
abcd
11:46 7/4/2002
He knows as much about cs as the 4k/ukla fan boy irc idlers. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
12:07 7/4/2002
I dont think any1 should comment on Infinity's lan performances till they have achieved what Infinity/4K has done. In recent times they are the most successful lan team with noc in the UK. I'd like to see any other team in the UK go to the CPL WC in Dallas and come top 10? Lots of teams lineups have changed recently, so how about every1 shuts up till the next lan? Think our i10 win was meaningless? Then how about all these teams that think we didnt deserve it show up to the event themselves and prove it instead of talking s***. Gl.
As for the UK team i think it's a good relfection of the top players in the UK, maybe has 1 or 2 strange choices, but in the end they're unlikely to be considered for the 1st 5 that play the majority of the matches. We had a great practice last night where we absolutely crushed DKH on a german server which was cool.
I woulda liked to have seen blaze in, but he himself admitted the other day after a gather than he wasnt in good form and isnt playing very much anymore. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
12:46 7/4/2002
nah ppl should comment, better them be honest than 2faced. also when ppl come flaming shouting "blah blah yur s***" etc does anyone really take notice? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
12:46 7/4/2002
And i mean comment on every topic, not just the i-eS lan thing whatever [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
landshark
12:59 7/4/2002
all i said was i think we could have beaten that merc team :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Messiah
Game2XS.Monkey Magic
13:03 7/4/2002
i reckon you could too [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
13:06 7/4/2002
Anything can happen in a 1 map game on lan. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Puneet
13:30 7/4/2002
I'd pick ui over ghosties for a coupla reasons :}

oogle as for ren's comment on ppl commenting about i-es' lan performances, i dont see how u cant agree.

Seems that everyone who hasnt experienced something feels the need to comment on it, but then u could use that arguement against positive comments too i spose :} [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DaPie
13:48 7/4/2002
liquid, ren , annum , elem and danfrag beat dkh so i guess the team is pretty good? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
13:49 7/4/2002
UKT Forums own. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Eagle
14:45 7/4/2002
Elem played against DkH? Wow wp Elem. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Elem_
14:59 7/4/2002
The final score was 22-2 to us on nuke I think.

What strikes me about that is that it shows how much a team of individuals with little tactics/teamplay together can achieve against a seasoned clan. It shows that tactics and teamplay are nothing without fragging power.

Elem [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Raider
15:49 7/4/2002
lo? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DArtagnan
Infinity-eSports
16:10 7/4/2002
I wouldnt claim that team had no team play or tactics. We had tactics, the whole point is : good players can quickly adapt to enw players and play as a team, you dont need to play for months before developing good team play, you just need to be clever players. Despite that, 3 of the team play with each other daily, so team work was present :P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ALI_G
16:55 7/4/2002
eagle sucks:P [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
FuSe
18:11 7/4/2002
I watched the i10 final from behind ghosties, and I would say to anyone who doubts Khaos' skill, "watch that game or ask the infinity members who played in it". He was easily Ghosties best player in that game, and fair enough Toomy is a better player, but Khaos is in great form.

Also why penalise i-eS players, if the 5 best in the UK were in one clan, why not pick them, isn't the team meant to be picked on skill?

GL guys [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Marcus
calibre
20:13 7/4/2002
FuSe, because you can't play all 5 in a match? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
shads
theb0g
20:50 7/4/2002
dont agree with 3 of the choices but then i think there were better people for uk manager as well, but khaos is definately on the best form ive seen him on past 2 weeks, so just gl to the team [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ukfan
22:04 7/4/2002
I agree with most of the team, however i feel that the captains do not select from a broad enuff range of players. They take like the top 5 or so clans into consideration and none of the others. I have played against every single one of the people in that team and there are better players form less well known clans imo. I watched a demo from UKLA vs eCore the other day and i dont think Elem should be in eitehr imo m0rph carries UKLA. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lee
22:29 7/4/2002
Elem i dont get your point? DkH are hardly unskilled, and if you are to constantly rely on fraging power to get you thru the Nations cup then ....... good luck. ;)

Pretty silly to make a comment like that when were talkin about a National team - ofcourse the skill has gotta be there before you start on the tactics etc? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DvtR
23:57 7/4/2002
He didnt say constantly rely on fragging power, read the post before u make a silly comment!!!!

He said tactics and stuff arn't much use with otu fragging power....... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Elem_
00:07 8/4/2002
I was merely commenting that in cs games, those people who believe tactics and teamplay are the be all and end all are exagerating their importance.

Was a general comment in the age old discussion of tactics v individual skills. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rhyzz`
00:14 8/4/2002
Myers
22:26, 6/4/2002
infinity esports are the best and most experienced clan in the country, so go figure :)

Ill go Figure Myers.....

You chose such a biased team i could have s*** a better team tbqh....

It may contain good players, but the fact you chose all 4 i-eS English players, with Fraggle next to you in your 'manager' seat, well people are going to think 'hmm, and this isnt rigged?'

I believe Neffgen said himself at i10 that the team was 'Rigged' the second you and chriso took up the job, and that Rigs should have gotten the job, as he knows what CS is about, as he plays, and not just watches from a 3rd person pespective and goes on reputation.

Elem for example: He kicked El3h from UKLA because, Eleh also favours the AWP, and proved he is a fantastic shot by missing 1 bullet out of possibly 20 in the i10 Final, against i-eS.

So Elem got rid of him from UKLA...But you chose Elem because of his rep. and not his skill, Raider is by far the best sniper (if there is such a thing in online-CS) in the UK, and should have gotten a place in the team over anyone.

Tbh, the only player i would have taken out of i-eS is Liquid, because hes the most consistent player in CS, and is a fantastic team player.

But a team so biased cant be expected to do well, and i reckon they will be slammed out in the group stages just as they were last year.

Neffgen chose a perfectly fair team last year, but this year is a totally different story.

So sad that Clanbase havent got a clue about CS, otherwise we may have gotten a fair team!

p.s) This is not a b***h at anyone, its merely a statement about the team selection. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Elem_
00:34 8/4/2002
Benji (posing as ukfan) - Don't forget that when i was in the ecore game I had been playing cs for 2 weeks...

Rhyzz - That is indeed a b***h about people. Not only about the players but Myers/chris0 too. You certainly couldnt do a better job.

In recent pcw's, the non-liquid members of 4k played extremely well (as usual). Suggesting that the other 3 arent good enough is ludicrous.

Re: el3h - You seem to think that beacsue he was kicked that must *obviuosly* be because he uses awp or somethihng like that (lol?). UKLA had too many members (like 12+) and we needed a smaller team. He was difficult to work with, and no I didnt rate him with awp (I admit I didnt see as much as others have), but you gotta play with people you can work with, and so he had to go. This is a misconception that needed to be cleared up.

And if you think i suck with awp i'll do some in-eyes demos of it in upcoming matches, and upload them somewhere. Stationary crosshair shots are newbie material, and those are mostly what you see in demos these days.

Whilst im on this rant (why stop heh ? ) a good way to really see awp ability is to take an awp ct on prod at spawn (literally) and get Ts to attack through the alley (and at the T-junction).

This is a good test because it sorts the men from the boys as regards awping, because there is no place where you can rest the crosshair and have it covered. (If you rest it next to the crate, you cover awpers but not akers jumping past/running past). If you leave a gap you get the jumpers/runners but die to the awp. So the only option is to either gamble, or move the crosshair under pressure. And people who cant do that consistantly in my eyes suck with awp.

But I think you're just judging on kills/death ratio :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Chris0
00:35 8/4/2002
HiYa Rhyzz

comment on your statement..

imo if myself and myers didnt get in, then DK wouldve got it well above Rigs.

Not flaming anyone here, just my statement [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
AnNuM
00:40 8/4/2002
No comment.

noc*Mike(Blaze) should be in UK Team instead of Purple, but thats my opinion.

Mike played really well in the SK match and showed the skill he is capable of. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Fred
00:50 8/4/2002
I would have warmly welcomed DK or rigs as the UK cls who would have surely picked a much fairer and stronger uk side. As Rhyzz quite rightly said, picking all 4 English infinty players did you not think people would think "hmmm?". [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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