All The Rage?

Posted by Myers at 19:22, 29/7/2005

Alltherage eh?

I have to admit, when I first heard about Alltherage, I was quite happy. Surprised, are the actions of ACON 5 UK quals forgotten/forgiven so quickly? but happy. For the first time in almost a year we have a team that might be able to compete at an international level, and more importantly, a team that 4K will take seriously. Sure I like(d) the other decent UK sides around, CSGN and Landed were both nice guys and talented CS players. Yet as proven by ACON 5, and the solid pastings handed to them by 4K at every encounter, they are unlikely to ever compete at the international level.

One of the biggest explanations for the declining interest in UK CS recently is the realisation of this. With the exception of the two players, in what now must be referred to as an international team, there’s no-one to support. We deny it, but at international events we want players to follow and support. These players represent the finest of us, if we cannot get a team of 5 UK players at a top level that reflects poorly upon the whole community. It’s as much about pride as it is about interest. Even at UK events, we want to see the top players playing at their best, shouting tactics at each other, not silently slouched in their seats, drinking cans of coke during rounds and free-for-all’ing their tactics.

UK Counter-Strike is not blessed with a lack of sponsors, in fact, in comparison with the majority of countries we have been somewhat blessed with willing sponsors. Neither are we cursed with a lack of LAN competitions for players to prove themselves. In the past 3 years we have held as many ESWC/WCG/CPL qualifiers as Germany, Sweden and France. Throw in the Bloodlines’, the EOGC’s, the BYOC’s and the assortment of lesser internet centre events and we are in quite a healthy LAN climate.

Yet sponsorship developed far quicker than the players’ abilities. Many top players lost the enthusiasm to play and were replaced by less experienced/talented players who did not make up the skill ground fast enough. It is the same situation for clans too. I hope neither Landed nor LastChance deny that they went from top 5 or top 10 UK sides to top 3, not because they conquered those above them, but as a result of those teams folding. Such is the extent to which the scene self-imploded within the past two years that several top-sponsored multi-gaming organisations are actually founded/managed by UK staff, fnatic, begrip and Dignitas being three examples.

When Stu Harriman departed 4K to later be replaced by elemeNt it was a double-edged sword really. Yes one of 4K’s longest serving UK members had left the team and was replaced by another Scandinavian, which is obviously a bad thing for the community. Yet the flip side reveals that 4K has now reached the status where they can attract players with the status of elemeNt to their team. Debate that however you like.

So what can we expect of Alltherage? First and foremost is sponsorship. The TAG/4K contingent of their line-up are used to not paying for travel, accommodation nor entrance at LAN events. Primarily on their agenda will be gaining a budget that can, at the very least, send them to all upcoming UK qualifiers for larger events. Although at present the forthcoming UK CS events in 05 are limited to: CPL UK early September and WCG UK a month or so later.

Once sponsorship is in the bag, they need to practice, and practice hard. Not just to avoid a repeat of the c4u/TAG i19 disaster, but to really know that beating 4K is within their grasp. Three of their players have beaten 4K in the past; if this line-up can find the motivation and avoid the distractions plighting other teams then there’s no reason why another 4K upset isn’t on the cards. This is most crucial to the success of the team, not to settle for what they have right now, the recognition as the 2nd best side in the UK. They must push, and push harder for first. Settling leads to a lack of motivation which then leads to the general deconstruction of the team.

Another crucial factor to the success of the team is to stick to their line-up they have. Avoid the temptation to recruit from overseas. Obviously this is a benefit from a UK perspective, yet events that handicap 4K, such as WCG are going to be crucial for their media presence. The media, especially print-media, are far more familiar with WCG than with CPL/ESWC etc, so it is important they avoid the temptation to bring in Mangiacapra and Akujii to replace two of their members for the event. With WEG preparing for its 3rd season that might not be an option anyway. It is crucial to the team that they brand Alltherage victories over every upcoming LAN event. From the minor GGL’s to the £1000 Gameon’s, they need the experience of competing at LANs together and the confidence of winning them.

When reflecting upon the history of UK CS, I consider this to be a 5th generation. The first generation being the days of KMA, UKLA, 4K, -CSA- and SLDR battling it out for the UK’s top spot. The second generation being the fierce Nocturne and 4K rivalry with CSC7/Ui lurking in their shadows. The 3rd generation to be the era of infinity-eSports –vs- ClanONE with OMG! behind them. And the 4th generation being 2004 with 4K/TAG/i-eS/c4u.

Generally these generations span the cycle of a year and roughly increment with the year. By comparison, 2005 was a bore. By this time in 2004 we had seen a great TAG –vs- Infinity-eSports battle at UKT 6, a 4K upset by WOLF at ESWC UK and some great UK games between 4K/NoA and TAG/SK.swe. So if 2005 is going to give us anything other than controversy to remember, it will be because of Alltherage, and what adrenaline they can inject into what can otherwise be best defined as the UK’s hibernation year.

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Seaweed
19:29 29/7/2005
#1 aids lol [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
19:41 29/7/2005
The 1.6 scene has no character and less talent. The css scene is worse. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Su1
19:50 29/7/2005
the uk scene there aint none due 2 the fact of lan sponsors and not enough uk leagues with anti cheat its just crap and the uk is going no where as far as 4kings , alltherage will b the same as pcgamer [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
mebR
19:53 29/7/2005
uk dont take it seriously enough, its uncool to try and people are too hung up on their cool image. everytime somebody loses their first excuse is that the other team practiced. thats the biggest problem. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kid
Clan ONE
19:54 29/7/2005
Should bring back UKT Lans might spark up abit more acitivity [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Saveh
fightclubclan
19:54 29/7/2005
its basically because people in the UK are too lazy to spend the kind of time other top teams do practicing. Look at teams like CoL who spend upwards of 6 hours a day pcwing and going over tactics... who the hell in the UK is gonna do that? seriously. Foriegners have more work ethic than we do (thats not nesseseraly a good thing, I go to uni and avoid job/work at all costs) they are simply willing to put in the time. We .. are not. Even "our" best team 4K are too lazy to practice... I can see that mangiacapra now scratching his belly going "uuggh as long as we get a top 10 placing and intel still gives me my kebab money, we're ok". Element isnt one for intense practice so im sure he'll fit right in. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Kid
Clan ONE
19:55 29/7/2005
activity acidity acrime [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Su1
20:04 29/7/2005
ya but Saveh but the uk cant be arsed to practice as there is nothing to practice for [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Saveh
fightclubclan
20:16 29/7/2005
they'd be practicing to get good enough to become sponsored so they could compete and win and events with huge prize purses such as the CPL. Or they practice 12hours a day...... and fund one trip to a CPL themselves... win it and get the 40,000. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Guvnor
20:16 29/7/2005
LOLS @ #1 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:37 29/7/2005
It took PCG so long to get sponsorship that they folded [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
f|ame
20:51 29/7/2005
haha seaweed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
20:56 29/7/2005
Can you imagine UKT lans? For their info on them, UKT would visit sk-gaming or ukcounterterrorist. Wouldn't work anymore [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
20:58 29/7/2005
PCG had the sponsorship, they just wasnt good enough to do anything with it, like win an event, not even with NIRee/bsl/MegatoN/Magix. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sunman^
21:13 29/7/2005
ati all they way. atr.ati [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
badER
21:35 29/7/2005
hi [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
22:37 29/7/2005
Attitude. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
siLki
23:04 29/7/2005
Stop caring [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
23:30 29/7/2005
Like that [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
00:38 30/7/2005
aint no such thing as professional gaming.

You could perhaps earn as much as a University f***ing Janitor as you could pro-gaming if you lived in the uk atm. I think anyone who aims to do 'go pro' within the uk has been smoking way, way, WAY too much crack and needs a spell in their local rehab unit.

play CS as it is meant to be played, with a few REAL mates (you know, the kind you see at least once a week, if you aint following, PLEASE SELL YOUR f***ING COMPUTER) and have fun regardless of the end score. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
StoppA
code of eXecution
00:50 30/7/2005
[UKB] were a top clan beta 1-4, never heard them mentioned since [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
00:56 30/7/2005
Divine maybe you should check out the pro-gaming in Korea, $500,000 a year?? Yes please. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Montaver
theb0g
02:22 30/7/2005
Your right, most of the old good players that were in the top 10 teams have moved on, either to non compeitive teams or just mixes or simply dissapeared, probably because of uni etc. I dont think it's set to improve either, but would be good to be wrong :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
03:32 30/7/2005
He said in the UK Tru you moron. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
03:36 30/7/2005
I was referring to the first statement, "aint no such thing as professional gaming. ", decrepit :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mango
09:45 30/7/2005
Yay, a decent column. Nice one. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
12:30 30/7/2005
There isn't a Lan anymore where every team who wants to be good is going to go like the UKT series.
When csgn first started up and there was a UKT ranking.

Half the decent teams folded/left and in my opinion there is a massive gap where they used to be.

I used to be able to think of like a top20 or maybe 30 clans in UK, teams like cs-marines etc who could beat each other on the day, now i can barely name 10 ;o
I think people started losing interest after that last ukt lan.
Myers you know what u have to do! :D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
13:05 30/7/2005
Myers killed the UK Scene. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
TecwynWhittock
13:12 30/7/2005
Named after Funeral for a Friend song ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NicholaisoN
13:33 30/7/2005
All the UK needs is a LAN 'pro' people respect, such as UKT.. the lesser known clans cant do anything without these LANs... such as if a lesser known clan wins a LAN nobody has heard of or 'respects' then they get called s*** or think they are good. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m00fiSh
13:42 30/7/2005
All these multiplayer games are all repetitive; they all copy each other - how many cpl clones have we seen? How many ESL clones have we seen? When will people actually learn to invent something different? So here's my point; invent something different with the competitions; mix it up, add funny rules, make it challenging and if it catches on there you are, if it doesn't better luck next time. People need to spice things up; I think the problem these days is that people have got too comfortable in doing the same thing over and over. I remember a few years ago, reading UKT and seeing tons of changes, tons of competitions and tons of fun, compelling and interesting stuff – remember Red November? Remember barrysworld? The crazy jolt slaughter fest?

We need to go back in time and try simple things. Which is the problem, a lack of variety and imagination – it’s all the same or too overly complicated. If, just ‘if’ this gaming community can shake things up, then I’m sure interest might catch on again. Which is why I welcome ‘CO rule’ competitions! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Sunman^
15:33 30/7/2005
bring back 1.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
decrepit
Croydon
16:28 30/7/2005
It's true what nick said, Winning MoonGames/Unicon Cups/RogueLan's and other dog lans like that means s*** because most of the time there is only about 2 good teams.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS NIXOH [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
messeh
deliverance
16:34 30/7/2005
perhaps its due to 1.6 being so fkin dull that the uk community has lost interest..cs is dying out. it was always bound to come to an end and its time has nearly come. if that pro mode had happened 6 months - a year ago then perhaps it'd still have a spark but its just same old same old these days. the only reason its not dead alrdy is becuz there hasnt been a half decent team game released for ages, as soon as one is - R.I.P cs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
cpr
17:07 30/7/2005
Wait until the start of 2006 ;)... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
monkE
euthanasia
17:47 30/7/2005
cpl london might do a little to revitalise the scene, something to aim for :o) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
vip
Online Multiplayer Gaming
18:03 30/7/2005
shut up myers
give me my xbox [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
clamjuice
20:38 30/7/2005
Tottaly agree with Divine, some people take this game wayyyyyyy wayyyyy to seriously *cough* Myers *cough* there's no future in this game, and no way u could make a living out of it [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
21:06 30/7/2005
S.T.A.L.K.E.R for the next world number one fps shooter tbh.

cs is dead. at least dead compared to what it used to be. now all it resembles is a raped and ravaged heroin addict skinned out through lack of sustenance.

to be honest, its had MORE than its fair life span. Its kind of like watching a very, very good film, you could probably watch it loads and loads of times, still appreciate it but at the end of the day, your not going to see anything new. SoooOO when a new film comes out, youll place it in your collection, and watch the new film. All we need now is a new film, then we would be sorted :D

Tru - perhaps you meant 'first paragraph' instead of 'first statement' - since my initial post was my 'whole statement' not just a tiny snippet. The 'pro' gaming circuit is huge in other countries, sure, but in the uk, its non existant. I cant see that changing either. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m00fiSh
22:07 30/7/2005
shutup my opinion is more important [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
00:06 31/7/2005
"aint no such thing as professional gaming"

that is a statement, your stating that there 'aint no such thing as professional gaming' [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
00:11 31/7/2005
were you dropped on the head as a baby? or are you just plain dense?

Read the rest of the post, and use your loaf to distinguish what ever other person has that has an ounce of intelligence. No pro gaming in the uk.

Maybe i should write it out for you, so that you can understand it.

aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk.

ok?

want it again?

aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk.

One more time, just for you tru.

aint no such thing as professional gaming in the uk. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
02:13 31/7/2005
statement; The act of stating or declaring.

"aint no such thing as professional gaming"

That sunshine, is a statement and that was what I was referring to.

Got your dummy here to if you want it. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ryano
theb0g
11:23 31/7/2005
I remember the days when cold fusion were up there, playing UI and 4k. The days when teams were real teams, and men were real men.

Days of honour that have died a long and lonely death. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
11:59 31/7/2005
Everybody who gets paid money to test games is playing games and getting paid to do it. In all sense of the word, that is professional gaming. DK, for example, is a pro-gamer. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enigmatic
12:12 31/7/2005
coL and other teams do not spend upwards of 6 hours practicing at all, what a load of s*** that comment is. if you read anything on other sites like gotfrag or bigger sites you'd realise that top teams do not spend a vast amount of time practicing. they already have the skill and teamwork in place and know their tactics inside out. it's the s*** teams in the UK that practice for 6 hours a day thinking that they'll be as good as the top level swedish teams if they keep playing hard and then with over practicing comes the loss of motivation and finally the folding of a clan. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HodGes
12:18 31/7/2005
Nothing wrong with the CS scene in the UK. CS isn't dead, it's practically the same game as it was 4 years ago. All over the world people love to play and compete with CS, just not the UK.

If the UK players don't want to play, who cares :> The better of them will do someone oversea's, and the rest will quit :).

The current 'wave' of pro players have left the scene, but the players who are replacing them are probally better than the old pro players, they just have harder competition (albeit less).

Start respecting the lesser teams' results at LANs. The teams who DO try hard, get slated to the ground, and fold. Give the new wave of players a chance :>. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ShekkyBoy
13:17 31/7/2005
Tottaly agree with Divine, some people take this game wayyyyyyy wayyyyy to seriously *cough* Myers *cough* there's no future in this game, and no way u could make a living out of it

I figured he realised that, hence why he's doing a degree course at university. Besides whatever incentive he gets to work at events like EOGC, etc it's a nice bit of work experience to put on the curriculum vitae. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
13:29 31/7/2005
try the coL website enigmatic and you'll see it's upto 6 hours a day [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Makaveli-
feo
13:38 31/7/2005
we need to teach starcraft in schools ¬_¬ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
clamjuice
13:55 31/7/2005
it's a nice bit of work experience to put on the curriculum vitae.

No it aint. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
14:34 31/7/2005
i think my CV is alright and yes the money i make from gaming-related work has meant i haven't needed to get what most people would regard as a "proper" job in 6 years. I contribute articles to 3 different magazines, work for iguk, and run LAN gaming events.

UK WCG 02 - 03 & EOGC 2004
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"At each of these large events (usually hosted within a video games trade exhibition) I assumed the position of Head-Admin/Tournament Director ensuring the smooth execution of the competition. My responsibilities involved everything related to operations, from writing the rules and format of each event to directing, motivating and co-ordinating the efforts of over 40 volunteers. This work placed me under a lot of pressure as a variety of problems were constantly arising which needed a speedy, yet mutually satisfactory, resolution."

^^ sounds alright on a cv doesn't it ? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fsk
twisted Reality
15:07 31/7/2005
I remember cold fusion and playing them everyweek, good ol'days fs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar`
The Anti-DoZ
15:22 31/7/2005
indeed ed, good days :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
15:45 31/7/2005
play testing as pro gaming. Perhaps, if you would consider sub 15k a year job as being professional :D

500k @ korea to me, is professional. As in they could dedicate their lifetime to being the best in the nation/world and get enough money to be able to retire at a fairly young age, and have enough cash to live on till they start to talk to the sofa and have blended meat fed to them by an 18 yr old care worker. play testing games at bare min wage aint pro gaming. Its working in the gaming industry. but its all relative and i respect all opinions. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ShekkyBoy
17:40 31/7/2005
No it aint.

Why isn't it? It's relevant to his degree and exceeds most of the tripe graduates put on their CV like summer employment or GCSE work experience. The more you know. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Divine
18:17 31/7/2005
agreed shek.

especially if he wants to get into event management or a field similar. It could even be used to get into a managers role in any field in which he has experience - managing a team of 40 is hard work. Ive managed a team of 20 and balancing their hours, overtime, breaks/lunches that sort of thing is real hard work. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
enigmatic
18:18 31/7/2005
what people say and do are often two entirely different things tru. check interviews with players and you will see what actually happens.

also note the word "upto". [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
19:44 31/7/2005
nice ditty on the CV myers, now you just need to demonstrate that as well as your tournament running capabilities, you can also write fluently in your native tongue [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
20:35 31/7/2005
reckon my contributions to PCFormat/Edge and my monthly World of eSports spread in PCGamer would cover that? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
21:08 31/7/2005
not really considering they're proof read [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rav0r
Croydon
21:09 31/7/2005
MonkeyMagic (1st team) > * [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Myers
Saviour of UKT
UKTerrorist
22:04 31/7/2005
haha seik, you'd be surprised :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
23:19 31/7/2005
in retrospect, as I remember (because I haven't bought a games magazine in about 5 years), games mags were often littered with basic spelling mistakes [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PrezZA
00:13 1/8/2005
When reflecting upon the history of UK CS, I consider this to be a 5th generation. The first generation being the days of KMA, UKLA, 4K, -CSA- and SLDR battling it out for the UK’s top spot.

CSA + KMA were always the best, but I think you forgot about dOh because they were better than UKLA/SLDR/4K back then. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZeoX
01:55 1/8/2005
reason uk teams arent as good as in other countrys like sweden there are so many good teams they dont get accused of cheating. but in uk a new clan comes along gets some decent results but isnt proven on lan there cheats. so so many clans fold because people get reputations and end up folding due to these reasons. but now the main person for this DK has gone maybe uk cs has got a chance [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
02:34 1/8/2005
Maybe the teams should just learn to have some backbone and play through the accusations then? Instead of quitting, running away, and forming into a new clan with a near-identical line-up, which just makes them look even more guilty. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Rude^
Jay Bee Eye!
09:23 1/8/2005
play testing as pro gaming. Perhaps, if you would consider sub 15k a year job as being professional :D

I started on 25k, don't knock it ;) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
georgeda
09:27 1/8/2005
where DID DK go?

only reason the teams folded that had suspected cheaters in were most likely because the person actually cheated.

the only thing stopping UK CS is the lack of practice teams put in, and the lack of effort in general towards cs, they are too busy bickering whos the BESTEST or who CHEATS the most.. instead of getting on with what we all doing, playing cs. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m00fiSh
09:30 1/8/2005
cheating is so common, I think it's great to run around with a wh and see what other people see and watch how they respond to someone they can't see or hear on the other side of the wall. I guess you could say I was making the evening the advantage. ;D [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m00fiSh
09:31 1/8/2005
-the :/ [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
monkE
euthanasia
10:25 1/8/2005
cruel is good online bye [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
sae
12:20 1/8/2005
i wouldnt say its better ow DK has gone, he has been replaced by sickboy! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
PrezZA
12:28 1/8/2005
Jay plays SWG now [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
HooV
13:08 1/8/2005
Good column, Myers.

It's the great old debate, isn't it? Has UK CS died? Is it close to dying? Or will life be rekindled, etc, etc.

It seems like 4K have carried the flag for so long now. It probably all stems from them taking the first successful plunge into the pro-gaming world. A few others have tried to follow them, but it's just never seemed to work.


I wonder if you could apply a football-related theory to UK CS...

Perhaps if 4K or ATR actually won an international tourney soon, it might encourage a load of 'glory-hunters' to get into the game (be it 1.6 or Sauce). Then, perhaps, the new blood would eventually end up becoming the next generation (and perhaps a more successful one...?).

I've seen so many kids wearing Chelsea shirts this summer and I guarantee a tiny minority are actually from London. All they seem to do is play football and dream of being the next Lampard/Cole/Robben/Terry, etc.

It'd therefore be quite nice to see a few new faces, desperate to follow in the footsteps of Liquid/akujii and the other UK fellas. Who knows, we might then get back to the days of 1.3 & before, when there seemed to so many more skilled/dedicated UK teams...

:|


I hope ATR get a decent sponsorship package - it'd give them the boost they need to succeed. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
13:18 1/8/2005
myers nothing to do with alltherage but can you explain to me how TAG had no cbble tactics for when they were at cpl?

Massive sponsorship plus attenting the biggest event but no tactics on the map!!

Always wondered about that one. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
m00fiSh
14:02 1/8/2005
cos they're noobs [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
NeonCraze
Viva La Resistance
16:07 1/8/2005
caus cbble is lower bracket and they were playing with a merc if i remember correctly, thus preparing 100% on upper bracket maps, making tactics for cbble is wrong because thats beleiving you are going to lose! WIN AT ALL COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
16:11 1/8/2005
lol bs if you had that sponsorship and were going to that event you would be 100% prepared ; [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ZaG
Online Multiplayer Gaming
16:19 1/8/2005
its hard to be 100% prepard when bsl told us like 1 week prior to us leaving for stockholm that he wouldnt be able to make it, meaning we had to change tactic caller and work a merc into everything [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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