Hacking and the anti-cheat

Posted by Gaara at 09:42, 28/6/2005

Right there are currently around 4/5 different anti cheats. (excluding the long awaited vac 2) ALSO IF YOU GET BORED SCROLL DOWN TO THE LINE

VAC - Pros : Lifetime ban off VAC servers if caught. Runs itself and isnt optional - If the server runs it you run it. Updates Automatically
Cons : It updates so rarely and is so volatile that New cheats are being made daily. So it lacks dedication

Cheating Death : Pros : New updates are released and it keeps a faster pace with newly released hacks. Also its coding it alot more secure.
Cons : The updaes arent always automatic - If they are bigger you have to download them yourself - and this can become a problem in a pcw when the other team dont realise there is an update. Stops the client running the game but doesnt register them as a hacker - so they get away scott free.

Csgn anti cheat : Pros : This software takes screenshots off your computer and see's youir configs and checks open gl - So it can see if you are cheating as screenies are taken randomly.
Cons : It is not a server proxy and is optional to the client - quite a hassle to load login and connect via a very slow and crappy server list. So not everyone is enthusiastic about it.

Steambans : Pros : a dedicated team who watch a lot of demo's and decide who cheats - and may/may not give them a life time ban.
Cons : People do dodgy stuff and watching a demo is not proof enough to say someone cheats.

Any other anti cheat is not worth mentioning at this stage.

So this leads me to think why there are numerous companys opposed to cheating and bringing up new ways to stop cheaters ? If they simply just merged they would firstly have - A life time ban option - Regular and automatic updates - Screenshots from your computer from a server proxy (with an agreement) and a dedicated team to help run this.

So i call to anyone working for these anti cheats and say MERGE - Also VAC 2 is going to be "ultimate" and "hack proof"
I remind you that this was said about VAC in the beggining.

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The cheater - By peter logan
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Now onto to the e cool hacker.
He wakes up - has his bottle anid maybe some sugar puffs. And he is off - he starts shaking - he wants to do something - he is oh so exicted . He checks his phone book to see if he can get a friend to go to the cinema with (he finds it empty). He is all alone. He starts the run around and he catches a glimpse of his Computer. He says to himself "Its so white, almost like sugar" And he runs towards it. He loads up Counterstrike and he is having quite a good time. Until he has 1 kill and 30 deaths. Now it is a different story for this kid, his sugar rush starts to end and he gos to google and searches "counterstrike hacks" - He gets them on the computer and he is away - Onto a server with his esp aimbot speed hack combo. Now his score isn't crap - now he wont get teased by the e thug. He has 400 kills to 0 deaths. And he eats a sugar liqourice lace - OMG now he thinks he is in the CPL - With 15 people flaming him to stop cheating - he continues - Until it reaches 10 am . Time for his nap.

Now i think this is a classic example of how a hacker must be. If people wish to hack why cant they go and do it on other games like halo - were no one gives c r a p - After 3 years of hacking can you now all just grow up get some pubes and maybe even get a girlfriend and stop making this game crap for the people that enjoy playing the game.

-Gaara brp brp-

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Del`
Sniper's Alley
12:57 28/6/2005
Interesting but what's the point of the column? It's like you stopped halfway through without reaching any conclusions or thoughts. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ndm
13:43 28/6/2005
Everything bar CSGN is proven to be faulty. CD hasn't been decent for months and never updates. VAC/VAC2 doesn't catch anything even when they do update. Steambans don't ban someone unless they're utterly blatant.

People who cheat with speedhacks and aimbots are preferable to the 1/5 or so people who cheat in matches while trying to hide it and getting erections over 'lucky wallbangs.' If you're going to cheat, do it in style, or not at all. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
jaff
16:00 28/6/2005
you talk some s*** mate [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar`
The Anti-DoZ
16:09 28/6/2005
amazingly butch comment jaffeh, yet amazingly accurate.

this next comment is to save del a job. "f***ing dire column".

the amount valve care about the comeptitive use of the game, or the cpl for that matter is easily evident and highlighted with a tiny example, no doubt you can all think of more.

why is the flashbug still present on de_nuke after what, 6 years of play? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar`
The Anti-DoZ
16:11 28/6/2005
as if i didn't twig del posted first. f***. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Mango
16:27 28/6/2005
This column kinda sucks. It would be nice if VALVe incorporated UA and SB, putting together some form of anti-cheat division, employing some coders from the hack scene. Can't see it happening though. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
georgeda
16:54 28/6/2005
only reason there isnt a public cheat for csgnAC is that not enough people play it to warrant a coder taking interest... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
17:11 28/6/2005
did you get bored writing this and give up? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Ghetto
17:52 28/6/2005
Keep making that much sense. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
18:05 28/6/2005
no-one cares about the size of cd updates unless you are on 56k.

plus its not updated enough.

Steambans only bans cheats that are blatant.

No-one I know moans about csgnAC which is the best Anti cheat out at the moment. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Evidence
18:25 28/6/2005
"IM TELL ADMIN ON U! FAYGIT!" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Tru
19:36 28/6/2005
I don't see why valve don't set up some anti cheat team and get users to donate to fund the them or something similar to that
I know for a fact that alot of people would pay say £1 a month to have a 100% proof game of CS to play, I know I would [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
clamjuice
20:16 28/6/2005
lol jesus get a life son [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
dhh
21:53 28/6/2005
Gaara
09:13 28/6/2005 Looks like i have to set things straight.
vitamin x were never a top team - name one LAN they have won. Also on that point ImG - i mean if your gunna speak dont just go on csgn and name the teams that are winning.
Top 10 uk teams :
4 Kings
Team Csgn
Landed
Ctx
Flame-Instinct
RocketMEN
C4u
Lastchance (if they still exist) :(
Ge4orce
Dreamslay
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immuNe18
22:13 28/6/2005
Joolz, the guy who coded ogc has joined VAC and is working on stopping cheats.
EXCELLENT JOB ME JOOLZIE! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
immuNe18
22:13 28/6/2005
Joolz, the guy who coded ogc has joined VAC and is working on stopping cheats.
EXCELLENT JOB ME JOOLZIE! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Glover
22:18 28/6/2005
immuNe18 i thought that was just a rumor a while ago or was that about him joining forces with cd [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Grunt
02:47 29/6/2005
unless he has re-joined again, he joined then left as far as i can remember, and this was years ago [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ColdAsIce
ImaGine
03:12 29/6/2005
is that some sort of joke dhh! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
10:34 29/6/2005
the column isnt immensely awful, its not great but by no means is it 1.7, everyones just using the rate column feature to guess how old the poster is WHICH IS WRONG [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Hayes-
13:34 1/7/2005
One of the worst columns ever. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
nubje[-_-]
07:06 7/7/2005
HAHA this is the idiot who said

TEAM CSGN
LASTCHANCE ( if they are still around )

please uninstall internet explorer [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
ensnare
Atari.Crew
15:45 8/7/2005
quite difficult to do on xp :( [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Carb
theb0g
16:00 8/7/2005
joolz was never involved with OGC and he never worked for VAC or VALVe in any capacity before. He said he was asked a few times in an audio interview I heard him in but has never worked for them. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroblob
21:15 11/7/2005
Carb thats wrong.. you mustv paid even less attention to cs than i did.

grunt is right, joolz worked for VAC then left shortly after.

CSGNAC rocks but geo is right, if it gets outside uk cs then it will get hacked [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
finitox
17:56 12/8/2005
vac 2 disabler on www.vac2disabler.szm.sk [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
[N]ight[F]ox
02:45 20/11/2005
Now lets see what a real hackers life is like...

He wakes up..he scratches his nuts..grabs his half finish 2ltr bottle of pepsi from the night before and takes a swig..he is now awake..He fires up his 1337 machine and checks his email..he gets bored so he fires up Counter Strike. He joins a server and starts playing, he gets bored after getting an alright score of 30 kills 18 deaths..he closes counter strike and goes onto one of the many cheat sites which have vac and vac2 proof hacks, he downloads one that sounds good, he fires it up then he fires up CS. He changes his name with some stupid s***, he joins a server he turns on his aimbot esp speedhack knife hack spin hack anti recoil no spread and all the other hacks..he starts f***in some nigga's up (no racial meaning behind that) he is having a laugh, all the players are crying nad b***hin like babys, he is laughing more now at how seriously these people take the game..he changes the hitbox to 1 oh no its headshot time.. He kills everyone on the other team OHHHH he is literally on the floor laughing his ass off, there is no stopping him. He laughs so hard at the people yelling on cs "Stop hacking you nub" "f***in nub!" "vote him out" "vote 4753" "all ct vote 8537". He starts typing..he hits enter..."waaa waaa someone call teh waaaabulance." he laughs so hard he disconnects from the server and runs to take a p***!.


and that my friend is the experiance of a ex-hacker :) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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