Valve code the best bug to date

Posted by 00 at 23:29, 1/5/2005

I cant play hl2 or any source game online and compete as my system isnt even 2nd rate by todays standard.

I knew this before I paid £40 for the basic HL2 pack but the temptation of the SourceSDK was too much.

Most of my time logged into Steam is for the SDK and not so much the games as im waiting to upgrade to play them at an acceptable framerate.

My first project was an allrounder map for hl2dm with CTF possibilities when the mod arrived. So it arrives and im ready to apply the CTF touches to the map codewise and i update all my steam to the max.

I shoulda worn a helmet i swear....

I forgot I needed the dvd in so i take my drive out of my server (where its mapped from on my games machine) so I can load the game.

Then I get the error in this link.

http://steampowered.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=278&p_created=1100821608&p_sid=WftDgmEh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0yNjcmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ

Notice how they ask you to fix this.

Top of the list is....

1. Update your Operating System and motherboard drivers and BIOS to the latest available versions

f*** off as if im gonna update to XP from 2K because a Valve patch broke my game. operating system lol...

A few driver updates and we have ....

4. Page file: try turning off your system paging file (you have to reboot) and setting your page file for 1x to 2x your physical system memory. Find this in your control panel > system > advanced > performance > advanced > "virtual Memory".

First they ask you to use 1gb to run the game optimally then they ask you f*** about with your page file (which in my case is being used). Bit f***ed that it needs to be done to make a game work. Anyhow my pagefile is running optimally for my system.

So more options tell me not to overclock (which I dont), to look for overheating (which even though hl2 rapes my system it doesnt overheat), I must be english cuz non-english charsets use characters that crash the game then we find...

8. If you are using ANY refresh-rate forcing program, please disable or uninstall it.

Ok I dont use any third-party ones but by the nature of graphic cards drivers I HAVE to use one (I have an ATI card so its their built in driver version). All gfx drivers have refresh rate setting code involved so we cant fix this one.

9. If you have any 3rd party Codecs installed, please temporarily uninstall them.

Un-install any 3rd party codecs? Sound codecs? Video codecs? So basically they are telling me to break my other games that require certain codecs that are installed with the games that would need re-installing. f*** you honcho...

This one just made me laugh...

10. If you have an ATI Graphics card, please uninstall ATI-ACE, ATI-SMART, Trueform and Catalyst AI, also disable VPU Recover if that causes you problems (but remember it's being triggered by some sort of problem!)

Please uninstall your ATI drivers to play this game....ROFL

11. Disable all IM programs and do not alt-tab to your desktop, swapping the game out may trigger this problem.

I happened to do this on a clean reboot which most of us would try first before getting to this point. This proposal is countermount to the old IT support saying of "The user is a dumb terminal".

We then get told to verfiy game caches, run a memory test and try a launch option to assist.

Then finally we get ....

15. If you are using two memory or more memory modules, try running with only one module and see if you still have this problem. Reducing the number of modules will effectively speed up your memory timing. If the game runs ok with one module but not two, then you have a motherboard timing problem and you will need to make some changes, READ YOUR MOTHERBOARD MANUAL.

a. Relax the memory timing some motherboards have "conservative" timing or you can manually increase CAS and increase prefetch. If CAS is set to 2.0 increase it to 2.5. If Prefetch is set to 6, increase it to 7 or higher (up to 11).

b. Slightly increase the memory core voltage if your motherboard supports this option, consult your motherboard manual. Raising the voltage will effectively speed up the memory, but will also increase the heat.



erm....but im a dumb terminal (well im not im just pretending) and your telling me to take one of my ram sticks out and f*** about with the timings so I might frag my ram, maybe some other motherboard components, make my computer beep and hopefully make a small nuclear detonation in my house to take out all potential steam users in the area.


With this in mind im left unable to use the games I paid for nor can I use the SDK to develop for the games I paid for specifically to develop with.

If I was a developer spending money on making source based games I would be s***ting myself right now...luckily I only spent £40.

f***in' Valve.

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alpha
Da boss
Inspired Gaming
10:01 3/5/2005
Sorry, but all their advice looks perfectly reasonable to me:

1. Update your OS - clearly this means make sure your OS is fully patched (i.e. Windows update).

4. Page file - the settings they suggest are the optimimum settings for any system (i.e. twice your RAM), so all they're doing is getting you to check this, incase you have changed it in the past.

8. Refresh rate program - I would imagine this just refers to third party programs, not things by your gfx card manufacturer.

9. 3rd party codecs - I've had game problems in the past that have been fixed by removing codec packs.

10. ATI software uninstall - they didn't ask you to uninstall the drivers, just the extra bundled software.


The advice seems to be aimed at techy users who may have "fiddled" with their system. If this is not the case for you then fair enough, I'd contact Valve and see if they have any other suggestions. Did you actually try verifying the game caches and doing a memory test? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Lyo-
eSports.Edge
10:58 3/5/2005
all i've got to say is

UNLUCKY

serves you right for looking like Swampy The Eco Warrior [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
11:43 3/5/2005
Start a #WeHateValve irc channel, if this fails then buy a pc that meets the minimum specs, then whinge i guess. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Undone^
ForsakeN
13:34 3/5/2005
upgrade your central processing unit etc! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Makaveli-
feo
15:09 3/5/2005
my cpu is a neural net processor [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Guvnor
15:38 3/5/2005
hl2 is s*** who cares [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
icewilly
16:25 3/5/2005
rated 10 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
qloudZ-
17:20 3/5/2005
all you can do is cry about it, really... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
badER
20:34 3/5/2005
i agree with Guvnor [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Del`
Sniper's Alley
20:46 3/5/2005
Basically their page says:

"We don't have a sodding clue why your game won't work and we can't be arsed to find out. Here's a few ideas that might help, well, they probably won't, but that's not my problem is it mate..." [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fun time fatteh
00:38 4/5/2005
I agree with alpha. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
rekkiem
ForsakeN
07:23 4/5/2005
early morning chuckloring, excellent [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Valar`
The Anti-DoZ
10:27 4/5/2005
the simple fact that you consider windows XP to be an evolution of windows 2000 should preclude you from owning a computer. yes they're related, but they are very different beasts.

second, you admit you're computers not up to the job, yet you complain? this strikes me as strange.

thirdly, you possess IMMENSE petty nitpicking skillz, and for this - rated 10. :-) [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fezemoN
11:26 4/5/2005
in light of this column i am not gonna be able to sleep tonight [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
K^|
13:11 4/5/2005
immensely nitpick your incorrect use of the word "you're". hard night beforehand valar? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Term`
New Elite Org
14:50 4/5/2005
do you get a "miles error" type message before or after the memory msg, because for ages I had the problem you are experiencing, and I solved it by moving some files around, either way, I may be able to help you, as I am now happily playing hl2 [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SiL^
eSports.Edge
15:02 4/5/2005
i really cant see why u care about this pile of s***e, get a life and just play cs or a decent game like the norm [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Magic^
18:30 4/5/2005
i didnt read it all cause its clear your a maggot [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
21:04 4/5/2005
i believe justin timberlake put it best with his first solo hit... [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Smittins
21:08 4/5/2005
"Your" a s*** troll MaGiC^^, at least dom is funny, sorry. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Slim
01:59 5/5/2005
domje 4 life [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
JerKov
taStyhouse
07:50 5/5/2005
like i love you seaweed? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Seaweed
16:30 5/5/2005
exactly [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
17:32 5/5/2005
smittins rocks [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Weebull
20:47 5/5/2005
teehee you love seaweed [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
DoZ
Anti-saviour of UKT
12:10 6/5/2005
second, you admit you're computers not up to the job, yet you complain? this strikes me as strange.

He said its not up to spec for competative play, not that it shouldn't RUN the thing [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
SAmwell
15:25 7/5/2005
hello im a ukt member like VeNoMoUsZzzZ and rekkiem, i try and be funny with sarcasm and random bulls*** posts, but it's all the same s*** on any comments page you click. YOU ARE BORING. Probably northern too. pshhh [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
fezemoN
15:30 7/5/2005
SAmwell has a small willy LOL [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Venomous
BLACKLiGHT
16:56 7/5/2005
HI SAmwell welcome to ukterrorist LoL! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
gst
theb0g
13:51 8/5/2005
SAmwell altho i do agree with you comments i do find your jibe at the north quite insulting thus meaning i decided to say: "f*** off you s*** c***" [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Necroblob
22:03 8/5/2005
SAmwell has a big willy LoL,

in with the VeNoMoUsZzzZ and rekkiem Style Big Sarcasm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Gucci
16:43 9/5/2005
cs 4 t3h w1nn! [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
seik
20:53 9/5/2005
I agree with Del, but essentially you don't have the minimum specs so you have no chance [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
Bly
12:10 11/5/2005
i agree with makaveli. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
richeh
#thkillerz
12:03 13/5/2005
your saying your computer doesn't meet the spec... why on earth are you complaining? [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
00
Judean People's Front
20:06 23/5/2005
im complaining because I didnt buy it to play the game...i bought it to map/mod the game.

The game worked till a Valve update. I never changed any of my system settings.

Min spec for hl2 if you want to play the game is fair enough on the box. I aint playing the game im using the engine to mod. An engine that doesnt require anywhere near the spec to run.

Oh and for those trolling c***s like Lyo you can eat my gooch u sad little c***s. Not b4 Valve do tho. [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
d0ly`
13:47 13/7/2005
00, the "help" thing on the website is just a precoution against any legal action anyone might decide to take. eg: Player1 just spend 40quid of his hard earned cash, then the game dont work. He is entitled to cash back, unless valve can prove that it is the foult of his PC. And here they prove it.. or at least make sure Player1 wont try to fight for hsi cash... cuse the average HL2 player doesnt want to be touchnig the Ram something, or the pagefile something. As he doesnt, he just gives up and doesnt play the game and doesnt ask for his 40quid back. So generally valve got 40quid and a user less cluttering their already overcluttered servers. They're not that dumb you know. :x [ Comment: Report | IP: Logged ]
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